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Superior Shine
May 14th, 2004, 10:02 PM
This is my second aircraft detail. I detailed it to be displayed at the Planes of Fame air show this weekend, May15-May 16 , 2004, in Chino , Ca. ------

( http://www.planesoffame.org/airshow04.html )

I love classic air planes as much as I love classic cars and this one was a joy to detail.

This one is a beechcraft stagger-wing. This paticular craft was made in 1946.

http://www.superiorshine.com/stag1.jpg

I discovered there is an acceptable practice at the airport of "dry washing" or "rag wrenching" aircraft clean. This practice usually means wiping the aircraft with a damp rag to get it clean. Although not a bad idea for flat or simi-flat military paint jobs, this way of cleaning aircraft with shiney paint could leave micro maring (tiny scratches) in the paint as seen in the pics below.

http://www.superiorshine.com/stag2b.jpg

http://www.superiorshine.com/stag2.jpg

Superior Shine
May 14th, 2004, 10:17 PM
I started, oddly enough, with "dry washing" the classic stagger-wing. I used a large fluffy wash mitt dipped a bucket mixed with NXT soap and water.

This type of aircraft has a fabric skin that is stretched over an aluminum and wood frame.

After the whole craft was clean I determined that a light cleaner
would be best to remove the light scratches and to shine up the paint. This type of aircraft has a painted fabric skin that is stretched over an aluminum and wood frame. The fabric area sounds like a drum when you tap on it with your finger.

I am not sure how tough this material is so I cautiously proceeded to "clean" the finish with Meguiars Dual Action Cleaner Polish. I did the ridged areas with the PC and the fabric covered area by hand (where is scottwax when you need him?)

http://www.superiorshine.com/stag3.jpg

As you can see I did get a little bit of red color on the pad of the PC.

Once the whole plane was DACP'ed and wiped down, I applied Meguiars new NXT Tech Wax.

http://www.superiorshine.com/stag6b.jpg

Superior Shine
May 14th, 2004, 10:24 PM
While the NXT dried, I turned my attention to the plastic wind screen. The wind screen was lightly scratched and hazy.

http://www.superiorshine.com/stag6.jpg

http://www.superiorshine.com/stag5.jpg

I used Meguiars PlastX with a PC to polish the wind screen so it now appears clean and sharp.

http://www.superiorshine.com/stag%20wind%20screen.jpg

Superior Shine
May 14th, 2004, 10:28 PM
It was now time to removed the NXT. The NXT wiped off easily and I was very happy with the deep wet gloss that the classic stagger-wing now wears.

http://www.superiorshine.com/stag4.jpg

http://www.superiorshine.com/stag7.jpg

Superior Shine
May 14th, 2004, 10:30 PM
Here are a few shots of the stagger-wing in direct sun light ---

http://www.superiorshine.com/stag8.jpg

http://www.superiorshine.com/stag9.jpg

http://www.superiorshine.com/stag10.jpg

Superior Shine
May 14th, 2004, 10:35 PM
In at least one of the pics you can see a very light cob-webbing around the suns reflection.

When you take into consideration that most of the craft was done by hand and that it must be polished with very light pressure, I believe the results are more than satisfactory.

I eagerly anticipate the next one!!!!

http://www.superiorshine.com/stag11.jpg

travisdecpn
May 14th, 2004, 11:19 PM
that looks amazing, great work

CrobarCars
May 15th, 2004, 02:57 AM
Joe = Whenever I see a new post from you, not only do I get a lesson in history but you always outdue yourself. A very enjoyable post. Tremendous work:coolgleam ....and thanks for reconditioning these planes to their glory days! :xyxthumbs

The plane shows are always a treat.

gb387
May 15th, 2004, 05:36 AM
That looks great! I would guess the owner was very happy! You know after I saw you first post with the old traininer aircraft I was wonderind if you could wax a "fabric" plane? Well I guess you can!

f1guy68
May 15th, 2004, 06:48 AM
OMG..

That plane looks fantastic! Superb!

What an excellent job!

I too...just love reading your posts and processes! I've learned so much from them!

With these planes being detailed, it appears you have taken your passion and profession to a "higher" level!

:xyxthumbs

Rockpick
May 15th, 2004, 09:31 AM
Great job, as usual, SS!

I met a guy at the Meguiar's 3-Day Advanced Surface Care Training Course out in Irvine that specializes in aircraft detailing. I've been trying to get him to get on the boards and spearhead some information on detailing a plane but, I've yet to see him.

RP :D

Tim Lingor
May 15th, 2004, 12:28 PM
Great job Sup! :xyxthumbs

So how long did it take for you to complete the plane? It must be a real chore with all those rivets!!

Tim

wlefevre
May 15th, 2004, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by 2hotford
Great job Sup! :xyxthumbs

So how long did it take for you to complete the plane? It must be a real chore with all those rivets!!

Tim

Not many rivets with Dope and Fabric. Across the ribs in the pictures you see stitching. That's to keep the ribs together and straight with the main fabric. Over the stitches is basically fabric tape that is doped on to protect the stitching. It's pretty strong. The only production aircraft that I know of that still uses it is the Maule.
Just think, even the big DC-3's have dope and fabric control surfaces! (Rudder, ailerons.)

gb387
May 15th, 2004, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by wlefevre
Not many rivets with Dope and Fabric. Across the ribs in the pictures you see stitching. That's to keep the ribs together and straight with the main fabric. Over the stitches is basically fabric tape that is doped on to protect the stitching. It's pretty strong. The only production aircraft that I know of that still uses it is the Maule.
Just think, even the big DC-3's have dope and fabric control surfaces! (Rudder, ailerons.)

Quite amazing that a plane can fly with nothing more than fabric covered wings and fusalage. My grandfather use to restore planes and I remember him recovering wings and things with th fabric.

Jimmy Buffit
May 15th, 2004, 06:50 PM
Joe: I am humbled.

I just delivered a black car, at the ($435) concourse level, received a "you are an artist" compliment, but this blows me away!

You are the man!

Jim (jimamary)

BTW, I think I'll have time to make my "brush" on Monday. Thanks again for the 'simple' tip!

Superior Shine
May 15th, 2004, 07:32 PM
Thanks Jim for the compliment.

Yes this is fabric covered as "wlefevre" stated. This one is covered in with a cotton weave fabric. There a a few rivits in the engine cowling but they are flush with the surface and painted over so they arnt a big deal.

Teak
May 17th, 2004, 08:02 PM
Looks good.

Eric

JJ_
Oct 22nd, 2004, 09:45 AM
did u find it a bit daunting, as I fancy offering this to my customers. Are all planes and Private Jets one stage. I could imagine you would have to lean very lightly on the craft!!

Excellent work and shine, out of interest how much did you quote and how long did it take you? :xyxthumbs

Superior Shine
Oct 22nd, 2004, 01:53 PM
Sit down for this answer---ready??----



I did it for free!!

JJ_
Oct 22nd, 2004, 04:15 PM
wow you did THAT for free. That is dedication for ya!

How long did it take you to do that, as I am keen on starting to do this. Did you apply DACP by hand on the fabric part??? or did i pick you up wrong :xyxthumbs

Superior Shine
Oct 22nd, 2004, 05:01 PM
yes by hand, 6 hours

FoxFour
Oct 22nd, 2004, 05:37 PM
Just so everyone knows, a Beech Staggerwing in that condition fetches around $300 to $800.000. When those planes were built in the 1930's, that plane could outrun the US Army Air Corps best fighter plane at the time, the P-36 Peashooter. That plane had the latest in aircraft technology at the time.

Superior Shine
Feb 28th, 2005, 06:54 AM
I got a call to polish a second staggerwing!!! I will be sure to post pics!!!

Wingsof66
Jun 16th, 2005, 01:43 PM
Hi SS, I bet that Beech is 10 knots faster now, than before your detailing. Amazing. Also aircraft paint are generally a lot "harder" than car paint, if I dont remember wrong.. making it tougher to work with.

wjfm1
Jun 17th, 2005, 02:45 AM
Superior,

Great job! Are they going to give you a ride?

Superior Shine
Jun 17th, 2005, 05:14 AM
Originally posted by wjfm1
Superior,

Great job! Are they going to give you a ride?


I wish!