Which products need to dry before removing?

[Mike Phillips]

Which products need to dry before removing? (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12031)

When it comes to paint care, often times we'll have members post to our forum, which products and procedures they're using to detail their car. In the process they'll mention how long they let products like ScratchX, or Deep Crystal Polish, or #7 Show Car Glaze, or M80 Speed Glaze dry before they removed it.

A common question that comes up often on our forum and over at our Customer Care Hotline is,
"How long should I let a paint cleaner dry?"

or

"How long should I let a polish dry?"This is a common mistake and/or misconception about these non-wax products, or in other words product meant to leave protection behind on the finish after removal. With this article, we hope to shed some light on this topic and clear up any confusion there may be on which products need to dry before removing them from the paint.

When working inside the Meguiar's line of product, whether that's our Consumer Line, our Professional Line, or even our Mold Release Line, the only products that need to dry, and the only products you should allow to dry are our waxes.

All other products are formulated and meant to be applied, worked-in and then removed immediately afterwards. This would include,
Compounds
Paint Cleaners
Cleaner/Polishes
Pure Polishes
All Meguiar's waxes should be applied, worked-in and then allowed to dry until they pass the Swipe Test (http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2166).

This would include all Meguiar's paste waxes, liquid waxes and even our spray-on waxes.

We hope this helps... :)

[ebpcivicsi]

Mike, my gallon of M80 specifically states that it should be allowed to dry on the surface before removing. It is an old bottle and I have used it both ways, while I prefer to remove it as you described (a pamel at a time), it does work great if allowed to set like a LSP. Is this something that I should be concerned about? Did the formula change at some point? My product is green and thin--and works like no other IMO. :D

[Mike Phillips]

M80 Speed Glaze is kind of the exception to the rule. I was wondering how long it would be before someone asked this question and who would wonder out-loud this question first.

Looks like you won! :xyxthumbs

The answer to your question no, you don't have to allow the Speed Glaze to dry to get the benefit of the paint shop safe protection. I don't have an older bottle in front of me, but I do have a new bottle and the directions state to apply and work until almost dry, (but not dry), then remove with microfiber or terry cloth towel.

It's important to note that the type of polymer used in this product are not they same as the type of polymer or polymers you would find in our other paint protection products.

It's not going to hurt anything to let the product dry before removing, but in most cases, as a general rule, most compounds, paint cleaners, cleaner/polishes and pure polishes, (in the Meguiar's line of paint care products), will be easier to remove if you remove them before they have completely dried.

Does that makes sense?

On a personal note, I don't ever let the M80 Speed Glaze dry before removing, but I do tend to apply my products to the entire car at once and then remove all at once and often times this means enough time will have gone by in the areas I started first for the product to dry before I have the chance to come back and remove it.

As long as you're using a high quality microfiber or 100% cotton terry cloth towel to remove this product from the surface, then you shouldn't have any removal problems.

Hope this helps... :)

[Michael Stoops]

So #7 Show Car Glaze should not be allowed to dry then, right? I have a bottle but I've never used it. Any tips for getting the best out of it - should I top it with anything? - should I stay away from other products with it? - I have #16 & #20 in my cabinet; which one would work best in conjuction with #7 and it what order?

Too many questions?:D

[Mike Phillips]

So #7 Show Car Glaze should not be allowed to dry then, right?

Correct. #7 should not be allowed to dry. Apply, work in and over the paint and then remove.


Any tips for getting the best out of it


Apply to clean paint using a clean, soft dry applicator pad. Most people work section by section or panel by panel and then remove before moving on and applying to the rest of the car.

Working Section by Section would be applying to a quarter of a car hood and then removing the excess and moving on to the next section on the hood.

Working Panel by Panel would be applying to the entire front passenger's side fender and then removing the excess before moving onto another panel.




should I top it with anything? -

In most cases you would top with a quality wax or paint protectant like M26, M21 2.0 or Gold Class or NXT 2.0

If you're working on fresh paint, less than 30 days old you would not apply anything else after the application of the #7 Show Car Glaze.


should I stay away from other products with it?

Our pure polishes like #7 Show Car Glaze are compatible with all paint care products in our entire line of products and should be compatible with most other paint care products on the market.


I have #16 & #20 in my cabinet; which one would work best in conjunction with #7 and in what order?


Both would work great, probably come down to personal preference most of all. The order would be,

#7 then #16
or
#7 then #20


Too many questions? :D

Never. :xyxthumbs

[Mike Phillips]

Bumpity Bump as plenty of people need to be aware of this fact.


:)

[mcox]

Too many Mike's but nevertheless. Mike in Orange, I topped my light pewter? (brown) truck with NXT 2.0 on the back half after I ran out of Gold Class. Both ends look great. http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

[gasti_ako]

good info.

[Aaron Ray Smith]

Awesome as always!

I'm on my first day of vacation Mike, wanted to drop by and say hi and thanks for the great news letter each month... see ya'll around :)

[Poki]

Probably a dumb newbie question...but...after you apply your polish what do you use to remove it? Do you change to a microfiber bonnet or remove by hand with a towel??

[Mike Phillips]

Probably a dumb newbie question...but...after you apply your polish what do you use to remove it? Do you change to a microfiber bonnet or remove by hand with a towel??

Not a dumb question at all... in fact a great question... :xyxthumbs

Most people will use a microfiber polishing cloth to wipe the excess polish off the paint.

Bonnets are really only good for removing thin coats of a product that dries, that would be your wax.

It's usually best to remove compounds, paint cleaners, cleaner/polishes and pure polishes by hand.

:)

[vit0]

Would I be OK with applying gold class wax starting at the front of the car and working my way around the car until it is all applied, and then using whatever i wanted to take it off starting at the hood again.

[Mike Phillips]

Would I be OK with applying gold class wax starting at the front of the car and working my way around the car until it is all applied, and then using whatever i wanted to take it off starting at the hood again.

Yes.

As long as you're applying a thin coating, it should wipe off like a breeze!

:xyxthumbs