Wipe-On Clear Coat?

[Jimmy The Detailer]

Hey all, I happened upon a product on this site - <a href="http://www.prestoprotech.com">Protech Polymers</A> that has a product called Presto! that claims to restore, or rather fills, clearcoat scratches and scuffs, so I naturally brought it to the Meguiar's table for discussion. (Mike Myers voice in SNL's Coffee Talk skit) Presto! Wipe On Clear Coat & Gelcoat Rejuvenator - Fast, Easy & Permanent .... Discuss :db:

[Mike Phillips]

$30.00 for 4 ounces of the Presto Pro seems kind of pricey...

Best thing to do is for someone to order this product and test it out on a clear coated black finish and see what's what.

[Jimmy The Detailer]

Not me Mike :LOLOL: I'm good with #83, 80/NXT 2.0/UQD on my current whip. But considering an old '90 Park Avenue I had years back w/CC failure I would've. But maybe someone already has.

[Wolf-Strong]

You know, after doing a few Google searches, I stumbled upon this thread again, and thought I might bring it back up since it is only a month old, but I have been thinking on the same line with these two threads:
http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21986
http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22145

This concept really is starting to peak my interest, and I am seriously considering tossing out the $30-40 for it when my next paycheck comes...

[Heatgain]

I saw other similar products, ie: something called Fix It!, (or something similar), and wonder why wouldn't it work? On all the boards, everyone pooh-poohs those type of products, (without trying it), but I've seen boards that pooh-pooh any Meguiar's product simply because it's Meguiar's. So a majority of opinions on various boards need to be taken with....well....more than a few grains of salt. If I had money to play with, and I don't, I'd test one or two of those products. Until then, #83, #80, and NXT2 is my way to go, but I'd certainly be interested in a test of those kind of "miracle-fill-in-the-clear-coat-scratch" products.

You know, after doing a few Google searches, I stumbled upon this thread again, and thought I might bring it back up since it is only a month old, but I have been thinking on the same line with these two threads:
http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21986
http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22145

This concept really is starting to peak my interest, and I am seriously considering tossing out the $30-40 for it when my next paycheck comes...

[Wolf-Strong]

I saw other similar products, ie: something called Fix It!, (or something similar), and wonder why wouldn't it work? On all the boards, everyone pooh-poohs those type of products, (without trying it), but I've seen boards that pooh-pooh any Meguiar's product simply because it's Meguiar's. So a majority of opinions on various boards need to be taken with....well....more than a few grains of salt. If I had money to play with, and I don't, I'd test one or two of those products. Until then, #83, #80, and NXT2 is my way to go, but I'd certainly be interested in a test of those kind of "miracle-fill-in-the-clear-coat-scratch" products.
My thoughts exactly!

[3800rs]

someone should buy it

[pampos]

I have already tried it.it seems that it works,i cal restore the color also.it is something like self-leveling product,something like an extra clear coat.you have to use it in extremely dustless conditions because if there any dust on it it will stuck and you will cannot remove it.It is better to stay with the traditional paint care methods,unless you want to try it.

[jpitt1987]

I have been wondering if something like this existed. How deep of a scratch will it take care of?

[Maserati Mario]

This sound kinda kewl. I wonder if you can use it like touch-up paint to fill in the CC nicks on a hood? Load it up, Wet Sand it flat and then buff it up. I think it would work.

[jpitt1987]

http://www.prestoprotech.com/images.data/Quicktime/PrestoCar.mov

Above is the link to their promotional video. At one point in the video they drag what seems to be the metal end of a garden hose across the paint and then follow it with Presto and the scratch is no longer visible.

It seems plausible, and they even claim that it is able to be waxed over, sanded over, and even painted over?

If so, it might be the solution I have been looking for. The scratches on the car in the video look similar to my own.

[Maserati Mario]

http://www.prestoprotech.com/images.data/Quicktime/PrestoCar.mov


Link not working

[jpitt1987]

The link works if you have quick time...i just clicked on it. If not, just go to the website and click on the video link from there.

What surprised me is they applied it with a paper towel....

[Maserati Mario]

Yea, just went to there site. Lot's of info. looks good. Im want to get some of there high gloss sealer but not right now, Freaken expensive! ( and the link still doesn't work)

[jpitt1987]

I might get a small bottle so I'm not out too much just in case it doesn't help me. And when I do, I'll get back to everyone about it.

[Wolf-Strong]

I will hopefully be getting a project car this weekend to rebuild, which in itself I am SUPER excited about, but it may give me an excuse to go out and spend some extra $$$ on this for my DD.

I did a little more research into this a few months back, and from what I gather, there are two levels of products; the deep filler (Pro Fill) and the shining product (Pro PBR). Pro Fill will leave a dull finish while PBR will bring it to the high glossy finish.

Sounds kind of pricey at ~$40 for a 4oz bottle but I guess you really don't need that much of the stuff. From what I gather, 2oz is more than enough to cover an entire vehicle, and the paper towel is used because it leaves behind the right amount of product. I know at work, we use a cloth towel to apply their brand of sealant, and due to the very watery nature of the product, you need something like a paper towel (or in our case, we use a cloth towel with no nap). I figure it is for the same reason in that this product is probably very runny.

Just thought I'd share my research thus far. I will probably order this in a few weeks (they are out of stock right now it seems).

[jpitt1987]

Runny seems to be a good description of the product. The video shows them pouring it into a pan for a demonstration and it flowed very well.

Take some before and after pictures if you could! I would LOVE to know the outcome of this.

As for the different types, does one do a better job of filling than the other? Or is one just more glossy while the other isn't?

[Wolf-Strong]

Runny seems to be a good description of the product. The video shows them pouring it into a pan for a demonstration and it flowed very well.

Take some before and after pictures if you could! I would LOVE to know the outcome of this.

As for the different types, does one do a better job of filling than the other? Or is one just more glossy while the other isn't?
From what I was told over the phone, the PBR only has a limited ability to fill, while ProFill is the heavy duty stuff for when you have serious damage. I honestly don't know more beyond that. I'm not sure if I will do the Pro Fill/PBR or just Presto Pro. When I'm ready to order them, I'll give em another call and find out more details.

[Holden_Caulfield04]

Based entirely upon the name of the product, my guess is that it's a filler-heavy glaze with a fancy (like As Seen On TV) name.

[jpitt1987]

Well it hardens like resin... so I wouldn't compare it to a glaze necessarily.

Do you know of another product that is similar caulfield?

[Iam4st8]

Hopefully someone can test this out soon, it is also like something i have been looking for.. got a few cc scratches running along my hood and bed cover.

[VonLego]

Didn't look to shiney when they applied it to that black truck... seemed OK though. It went from gray to a dull black.

[jpitt1987]

Really? Do you have any pictures of it? Is it really different in color than the rest of the paint?

[VonLego]

Really? Do you have any pictures of it? Is it really different in color than the rest of the paint?


Click the origional link and watch the video. It sure does look better, but it is far from great. Looks like something you could use on a DD you want to be lazy with... But at the cost of 40 bucks for the filler and 40 bucks for the shiner... for a total of 8oz? Not sure if I could do that.

I'd rather drop on some cleaner wax and call it good. Can't imagine how hard that stuff would be to take off if it *****...

[pampos]

I have tried it on a dull hazed yellow 80's Mitsubishi and it made a lot of difference in colour...Unfortunately i didn't take a picture....

[jpitt1987]

So would you recommend it pampos?

[Mike Phillips]

Their website has the same styling as the Glare website

Presto (http://www.prestoprotech.com/)
Glare (http://autopolish.net/)


Over the years I've see a lot of products come and go and I've met a lot of people that have tried the new "Flavor of the Month" type products but after trying the new product for a while instead of jumping on the bandwagon they always seem to go back to the products they trust and the product that have a proven themselves over time.

I hope a number of you will purchase the Presto products and then do some really good testing with the products and then share their results with our forum community.

If the products turn out to be the next best thing to sliced bread then our chemists have some work to do.

If however the consensus ends up being what it usually is for products like this, then everyone will know that too and the people that shell out some coin and do the testing will have saved them some money.

Be sure to test on black paint, hopefully a new car with a nice flat hood you can look down on.

:)

[Mike Phillips]

Hypothetical question...

If you do in fact apply the Presto products and create a new, clear layer on the surface of your car's paint, now how do you take care of this layer?

If the car is a daily driver, than just like the factory paint it's going to get swirls and scratches in it.

How do you approach polishing/abrading the coating in an effort to level the surface with the lowest points of the defects in an effort to remove the swirls and scratches.

What happens if you go through some places but not others?

What about applying more applications? How do you prep the coating to accept a new layer of itself and insure uniform surface adhesion over the entire surface? Is it possible one layer could ever lift or flake off the previous layer?


Just playing Devil's Advocate... you folks that take the plunge and buy the product keep these questions in mind as you work with the product and see if you can post some answers that will overcome any potential problems.

Looking forward to your test results...

Now, to go dig up my un-opened package of "No Touch"

:laughing

[pampos]

I agree with Mike's thoughts...I cannot compare it with similar products so i cannot say if it is good or not...It is getting hard immediately on direct sunlight and if some dust seat on it you have to remove it before it gets hard.Also you have to apply it with a ''flat surface'' towel because with the normal MF you can see the shape of the towel's surface on the ''coat''...On the dull car was made a lot of difference but i am not sure how can you take care of that...I don't believe on those ''miracle products'' but i would love to have a harder CC than my Honda has : )..
I will try tomorrow to find a dull car to use it on it just to see the difference...Your experience counts more than mine,so maybe you can charge the results better than i do....

[Wolf-Strong]

I talked to a guy at Presto some time ago over the phone, and from what I understand it is pretty much exactly as it says; a clear coat that you wipe on instead of spraying through a spray gun. Takes the same amount of time to dry, and you maintain it the same way you would normally maintain a clear coat.

I don't have the spare cash I thought I would...got the most ridiculous ticket I have ever seen so I have to pay a lawyer to go and fight it. Get this; I was picking my friend up from the airport, and I was stopped at a stoplight with a crosswalk right in front of me. My friend walks down the crosswalk, gets in my car, and after the light turned green, the cop asked me to pull over!

I had to ASK him why I got pulled over! He never even said 'do you know why you got pulled over' rather just asked for my registration and license. After he gave me a 3 minute jabbing away (without giving a definitive answer) on why someone shouldn't get in a car from the crosswalk, he spent another 20+ minutes writing the ticket only for me to finally see what the 'official' reason he pulled me over for written on the ticket. Turned out the official reason was that I was '22400 (a) cvc minimum speed law (blocking traffic)'....while stopped at a red light! I simply was as kind as possible, because if there is anything I know, it is that the place you argue about it is in the courtroom, otherwise if you piss an officer off they can really screw you over.

Grr.....

[jpitt1987]

Indeed! My brother just got a nasty ticket, but he was lucky, he was 1 away from 2x the speed limit!


As to your comment...that is very interesting. I don't think that I would want to spend that much though for such a small amount. The one time I did a clear coat, or rather my friend who owned a body shopped did mine and let me watch, this big gallon of it cost only 33$. I know because he charged me for it :D

[pampos]

Here is a quick test of PRESTO

The hood before
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj302/accordcl7/pampos%201/DSC01044.jpg

The hood with Presto on it
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj302/accordcl7/pampos%201/DSC01045.jpg

Here is a picture that shows the hood 50/50 polished and 50/50 polished with Presto on it
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj302/accordcl7/pampos%201/DSC01051.jpg

And here is a picture with presto on the polished area(at the top right corner)

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj302/accordcl7/pampos%201/DSC01050.jpg

I guess that it needs polishing or something.I would let it dry and i will try tomorrow to polish it just to see what' going on..

[jpitt1987]

Seems to me like it did improve it, eh?

However, I would like to see how long it will hold up. Have you applied any of M.Phillip's previous questions?

[pampos]

Seems to me like it did improve it, eh?

However, I would like to see how long it will hold up. Have you applied any of M.Phillip's previous questions?
i can see some improvement,especially on the unpolished side.If i remember good,when i tried it on the yellow car,the spot that i tested was still more yellow after 3 months...It is suppose to be there for ever so i guess that it is not matter of durability but a matter if it can improve anything..Maybe someone with more experience than me can charge the photos

[Mike Phillips]

I talked to a guy at Presto some time ago over the phone, and from what I understand it is pretty much exactly as it says; a clear coat that you wipe on instead of spraying through a spray gun. Takes the same amount of time to dry, and you maintain it the same way you would normally maintain a clear coat.





Interesting, so basically you're painting your car, not waxing it or applying a paint sealant.

If that's the case then comparing this product to a car wax is comparing apples to oranges, a better comparison would be to compare it to different brands of automotive car paints. Not sure how many of the automotive clear paints can be, or should be applied with a paper towel, but a person could always contact each manufacture and check with them.

Let us know how it goes as you continue to test it...

:)