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michaeld0983
May 4th, 2008, 04:19 AM
What's the difference between Meguiar's Super Micro Abrasive technology and Meguiar's Diminishing Abrasive technology? (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23748)


Hello guys,

Can you tell me the differences between Meguiar's Super Micro Abrasives technology and Meguiar's Diminishing Abrasive technology?


Thanks

asim_296
May 4th, 2008, 06:09 AM
I believe diminishing abrasive refers to the cleaner which has polishing action after you work it in your paint it's goin to break down and enrich your paint depth and gloss.

I wish i'm correct :D

michaeld0983
May 4th, 2008, 07:42 AM
same with you, i think the abrasive will become finer and finer when you work on the product. but i don't exactly know about super micro abrasive:sosad1

Mike Phillips
May 4th, 2008, 07:57 AM
Mike Pennington touches on what information we can and cannot share a about our proprietary information on page 4 of this thread,

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21694


There's another thread somewhere where either he or Jason Rose discusses, not sure where that's at but on Monday we'll look for it.

:)

michaeld0983
May 4th, 2008, 09:48 AM
Mike Pennington touches on what information we can and cannot share a about our proprietary information on page 4 of this thread,

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21694


There's another thread somewhere where either he or Jason Rose discusses, not sure where that's at but on Monday we'll look for it.

:)
thanks mike

Mike Pennington
May 5th, 2008, 02:15 PM
Hello guys,
Can you tell me the differences between super micro abrasive that we found in m105 and the diminishing abrasive?
Thanks

Meguiar's Diminishing Abrasive(s) - Abrasive(s) that actually break down as you use them. For example, they may start out a certain size or shape, and during the buffing cycle, they will actually breakdown to nothing, so there are only polishing oils working for you. We pioneered and have been utilizing this technology for about 75 years in many of our compounds, cleaners, cleaner/polishes, and cleaner/waxes.

Meguiar's Super Micro Abrasive(s) - With technology comes advancements. We simply developed a new style / mix of abrasive(s) we refer to as “Super Micro Abrasive Technology”. We can say, this new "style" of abrasives are very small and do not "breakdown" like OUR diminishing abrasive technology does. This new abrasive technology is exclusive to Meguiar’s and is not available to any other company.

With that said, unfortunately, we can’t go into any further details on either type of abrasive(s) because that is proprietary information.

Mike

Mike Phillips
May 5th, 2008, 02:25 PM
Thank you Mike for clarifying the differences.

We're going to now move this to our Hot Topics forum as we're confident questions like the one asked in the thread will come up in the future.

:xyxthumbs

MandarinaRacing
May 5th, 2008, 03:12 PM
Hello guys!

It would be nice to know which products utilize Diminishing Abrasives and which utilize Super Micro Abrasives. Just a thought.

Alex

Mike Pennington
May 5th, 2008, 03:38 PM
M86 (So1o - Cut & Polish Cream), D151 (Paint Reconditioning Cream) & M105 (Ultra-Cut Compound) would fall into the "super micro abrasive" bucket. Even though they all use a different version / style of the "super micro abrasive".

M95 (Speed Cut) is a really blend of "diminishing" & "super micro abrasive"

All other cleaners, compounds, cleaner/polishes and cleaner/waxes, in our automotive line, would fall into the diminishing abrasive bucket.

The important thing to remember is....If the product works and exceeds expectations, that is the most important factor.

Please don't get hung up on the trees and miss the beauty of the forest :bigups

Mike

asim_296
May 5th, 2008, 04:24 PM
Please don't get hung up on the trees and miss the beauty of the forest :bigups

Mike
:iagree: Thanks anyway

MandarinaRacing
May 6th, 2008, 09:56 AM
The important thing to remember is....If the product works and exceeds expectations, that is the most important factor.

Please don't get hung up on the trees and miss the beauty of the forest :bigups

Mike

Well said Mike ! :werd1

michaeld0983
May 8th, 2008, 02:48 AM
Meguiar's Diminishing Abrasive(s) - Abrasive(s) that actually break down as you use them. For example, they may start out a certain size or shape, and during the buffing cycle, they will actually breakdown to nothing, so there are only polishing oils working for you. We pioneered and have been utilizing this technology for about 75 years in many of our compounds, cleaners, cleaner/polishes, and cleaner/waxes.

Meguiar's Super Micro Abrasive(s) - With technology comes advancements. We simply developed a new style / mix of abrasive(s) we refer to as “Super Micro Abrasive Technology”. We can say, this new "style" of abrasives are very small and do not "breakdown" like OUR diminishing abrasive technology does. This new abrasive technology is exclusive to Meguiar’s and is not available to any other company.

With that said, unfortunately, we can’t go into any further details on either type of abrasive(s) because that is proprietary information.

Mike
thanks for the answer mike. Now I'm understand the diffrences between them

Dav_C
Nov 5th, 2008, 07:52 AM
With diminishing abrasives we know we need to work till it breaks down and sort of disappear, then we stop the buffer. Only with this way we can get good clarity.

However without diminishing abrasives, How do we judge when to stop?

Mike Phillips
Nov 5th, 2008, 09:32 AM
With diminishing abrasives we know we need to work till it breaks down and sort of disappear, then we stop the buffer. Only with this way we can get good clarity.

However without diminishing abrasives, How do we judge when to stop?

When the defects are removed and/or you're satisfied with how the paint looks.

This is the amazing part about this new technology and is in part why there is a paradigm shift in how we think about abrasives and how they work on automotive paints.

This is also where it kind of throws a monkey wrench into the idea of using the least aggressive product to get the job done. We still teach that practice as it makes the most sense, but anyone that's used M105 by hand, that is anyone that's used our most aggressive product by hand knows how great it works and it's only as aggressive as you work it and it only abrades for as long as you work it and when you're done it leaves a clear finish.

Shazam!

:)