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Mike Phillips
Sep 2nd, 2004, 01:26 PM
Product, Pad and Speed settings for the Porter Cable Dual Action Polisher
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2ProductPadSpeedPC.JPG
Additional considerations…
The above recommendations are only a starting point. Keep in mind; there are many variables, which contribute to the overall performance of a product, and the end result.
For example:
1) Paint – Type of paint, age of paint, hardness of paint…all of these play into which pad and product will work best for that particular application.
2) Pressure – Increased pressure means increased “cutting action”…In some cases this is needed, and in other case this could be detrimental to the surface.
3) OPM’s – By increasing the OPM's’s of the machine, you automatically increase the action of the machine. This means additional “cutting action” for when using products that have swirl removal capability. However, if you’re simply spreading “wax”, you should reduce the speed of the machine at this stage of application.
4) Arm Speed – The quicker you move your arms back and forth, the less chance the product has to do it job. For example, a swirl remover needs to be allowed to work itself into the surface. The slower the arm speed the greater chance of removing swirls.
5) Pad Choice – The more aggressive the pad, the more “cutting” action will take place. You must first evaluate your finish, determine your goal, and then choose the appropriate pad to do the job.
6) Product Choice - You must first evaluate your finish, determine your goal, and then choose the appropriate product to do the job.
By evaluating the finish, choosing the right product, and using good techniques, a quality finish can be achieved fairly simply.
gb387
Sep 2nd, 2004, 01:33 PM
:xyxthumbs
Thats great! Quick and easy look up, thanks!
Vandelete
Sep 2nd, 2004, 03:28 PM
:iagree: very useful thanks for that information sharing
Cam
Sep 2nd, 2004, 03:54 PM
Thanks Mike! That's great info for a PC-newb like myself... :)
Bill D
Sep 2nd, 2004, 04:05 PM
Wow, Thank your Mr. Mike! :bow
I must say though, I have used DACP on "6" quite often with no ill effects, I do use another brand of pad most often though.
Black Diamond
Sep 2nd, 2004, 07:02 PM
Whoa! Mega useful information!
Thank you sooooooooo much Mike!
Mr.M
Sep 3rd, 2004, 10:42 AM
Printed the info....its now taped in my tool box:xyxthumbs
Big Ben
Sep 3rd, 2004, 08:45 PM
Mike,
I have a Porter-Cable Professional Buffer, (1000-6000 RPM), I have been using a Porter-Cable 9" wool buffing pad for buffing at 1200 rpm and Meguiar's W-9000 8" foam pad for polishing at 1500-2000 rpm and I must admit that I've had great results so far. Today I bought a Porter-Cable 9" wool Polishig pad but I haven't tryed it yet. Do you recomend to stick with the foam pad to polish? And what about the Meguiar's Egg creat style foam pad (sorry don't know the Number)! Versus wool pad?
Thanks,
Big Ben :confused:
Mike Phillips
Sep 3rd, 2004, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by Big Ben
Mike,
Today I bought a Porter-Cable 9" wool Polishing pad but I haven't tried it yet. Do you recommend to stick with the foam pad to polish? And what about the Meguiar's Egg crate style foam pad (sorry don't know the Number)! Versus wool pad?
Thanks,
Big Ben :confused:
Hi Big Ben,
Any time you use a fiber style pad you risk instilling buffer swirl in the finish. Each of the fibers in the pad will tend to instill their own scratch into the finish. Wool pads, whether cutting or finishing pads, are best used to remove sanding marks or in some cases, random, isolated deeper scratches, (RIDS), or extreme neglect and oxidation.
Afterwards, you will need to re-buff the area with a foam pad and the appropriate product to remove any swirls. You will always create a better looking, swirl-free finish using foam pads instead of wool pads.
Meguiar's doesn't offer a egg-crate style foam pad. All Meguiar's foam pads are of the flat design since 1965. You may be thinking of a 3M pad. They use a foam style that looks kind of like what's in my camera case.
Meguiar's Wooless Wonder from 1965 (The first commercially available foam pad)
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2500_woolesswonderinbox.jpg
Big Ben
Sep 4th, 2004, 09:08 PM
Thanks Mike,
This explains some of the minor problems I've had in the past. I will keep my wool pads for the more agressive buffings but I will go with the foam pads for the normal jobs.
With that being said, what do you recomend for carbon fiber? I have a client who has bad oxidization (foging) on his carbon fiber hood, I haven't tryed anything yet but it looks pretty deep in the clear coat!!
Big Ben
manueljlg
Sep 4th, 2004, 09:25 PM
2hotford once recomended to follow # 83 in a polishing pad with # 82 in a FINISHING pad on darker paints. Does this apply to my silver truck or should I follow # 83 with # 82 on a 8006 pad ?
Teak
Sep 5th, 2004, 06:36 PM
Thanks for the info Mike.
Eric
Lanevoboi757
Sep 6th, 2004, 11:43 AM
This is awesome. I have learned so much just by reading this website. Thanks for everything:xyxthumbs
SilverS2k
Sep 30th, 2004, 11:19 PM
What about the clear plastic products? I've always wondered what would be safe for my plastic rear window.
Mike Phillips
Sep 30th, 2004, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by manueljlg
2hotford once recommended to follow # 83 in a polishing pad with # 82 in a FINISHING pad on darker paints. Does this apply to my silver truck or should I follow # 83 with # 82 on a 8006 pad ?
The same process would apply, the difference is that on darker paints, sleight defects are more easily seen, thus the reason to choose the softer pad for a softer buff.
Light color cars don't show defects as easily, but that doesn't give a person the license to throw caution to the wind and use a wool pad and a compound for their final polish.
If after using the #83 DACP with a W-8006 polishing pad and upon close inspection of the results you still see some haze or micro-marring, then substituting a lighter polish, but keeping the with the W-8006 polishing pad will give you a softer polishing process but with more bite than if you used the W-9006 pad.
The W-9006 finishing pad is is exactly as it is described, a finishing pad, it is very, very soft and it's best use comes from applying a polish or wax for beauty and protection reason.
Mike
Mike Phillips
Oct 1st, 2004, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by SilverS2k
What about the clear plastic products? I've always wondered what would be safe for my plastic rear window.
Hi SilverS2k,
I created a Clear Plastics Forum and added all of the Meguiar's products that can be used on clear plastics by hand or machine and made it a sticky.
Clear Plastic Detailing (http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=66)
Mike
SilverS2k
Oct 1st, 2004, 11:54 AM
Thanx!
Chris Nemlich
Oct 5th, 2004, 04:18 AM
Thanks for the quick reference sheet Mike!
This now sits taped inside my G-100A toolbox.
:xyxthumbs
Chris
darkhorse
Oct 5th, 2004, 06:36 AM
Mike,
Just a quick question, what would be the proper procedure for using a paste wax (i.e. M-16) and the PC? How do you load the product? If this is redundant, I apologize , but I could not see the answer in any of the posts. I am getting a PC as a gift soon and just need some advice. Thanks.
Lee:xyxthumbs
atclew
Oct 5th, 2004, 10:05 AM
Mike,
Thanks for the excellent info on the G-100.
I've been sitting back the past months waiting for the right time to purchase the G-100 and finally it was delivered this morning.
I guess like every other car crazy enthusiast, I'm looking for a bit of advice from you or any of the other more experienced fella's on here.
First off here's a pic of the "subject"
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/599riv-3-med.JPG
Here's a close up of the finish
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/599riv13-med.JPG
Not the best photographs of the car, but there is that last little bit of spiderwebbing and swirlmarks left on the car.
My plan is to use #83 with the 8006 pad, followed up with #81 (I love the stuff) with an 8006 pad, finished off with NXT using the 9006 pad.
The car is a 1996 Buick Riviera, Sea Mist Green Metallic (Clear Coat).
Am I good to go following the guidelines on the first post? And are GM paints generally hard, medium, or softer paints? Any advice is welcomed.....Thanks in advance
jetta18T
Jan 5th, 2005, 02:31 PM
Mike,
I saw that you can apply NXT with either the 8006 or 9006 but just curious if either of these two work better in certain circumstances. What would cause you to choose one or the other? Is there a visible difference?
tripper_11
Jan 5th, 2005, 08:28 PM
and also just to add, NXT maybe used with speed setting to (2) - 4? even if using the W9006 pad, would I be 100% sure that I'm not cutting the thinnest possible? (considering speed 4)
easyrider13
May 21st, 2005, 08:35 AM
Mike, Thanks for the chart. Very useful.
#21 Synthetic Sealant isn't shown.
Should the pad/setting choice be the same as for #20?
carnut00
Jul 18th, 2005, 12:46 PM
I thought you could use the fine cut cleaner via PC?
Mike Phillips
Jul 18th, 2005, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by carnut00
I thought you could use the fine cut cleaner via PC?
You can use the NEW formula of M02 Fine Cut Cleaner. The bottle on the right is the new formula. If you look close at the label you can see the direction on the bottle on the right states it can be used by hand, orbital, DA polisher or rotary buffer.
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2TwoNewM02BottlesBack.jpg
carnut00
Jul 19th, 2005, 09:06 AM
Alright thanks Mike:xyxthumbs
roushstage2
Aug 26th, 2005, 09:04 AM
Thanks for the link to this table Mike!!
oc detailer
Aug 26th, 2005, 09:11 AM
i had to print hat first page to pin up in the garage..:xyxthumbs
by the time i have my PC, that print out will be memorized..
Dieseljoe
Sep 18th, 2005, 01:09 AM
Could you please tell me where you obtained this list of Maguiars products and their correct usage.Thanks Joe:xyxthumbs
the other pc
Sep 18th, 2005, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by Mike Phillips
You can use the NEW formula of M02 Fine Cut Cleaner. The bottle on the right is the new formula. If you look close at the label you can see the direction on the bottle on the right states it can be used by hand, orbital, DA polisher or rotary buffer. My cat prefers the new #2. I don’t let him use the rotary.
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2160prefers_new_2.jpg
PC.
Rusty Bumper
Sep 18th, 2005, 12:05 PM
Looks like kitty is giving the old formula the evil eye. :D
Could it be the smell that he disaproves of ? ;)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Nice kitty!......I saved him to disk.
the other pc
Sep 18th, 2005, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by Rusty Bumper
Looks like kitty is giving the old formula the evil eye. ... Nah, he’s just mad at me for not letting him use the rotary. He’s only allowed to apply products by D.A., orbital or paw.
PC.
Rusty Bumper
Sep 18th, 2005, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by the other pc
Nah, he’s just mad at me for not letting him use the rotary. He’s only allowed to apply products by D.A., orbital or paw.
PC. :rofl:
sneek
Sep 30th, 2005, 05:38 PM
can some one tell me which one is the eqivelnt to a g100
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396669473&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474396670271&bmUID=1128131572127&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442458991&assortment=primary&fromSearch=true
or
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396669473&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474396670271&bmUID=1128131572085&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442458995&assortment=primary&fromSearch=true
im guessing the second one
sry 4 the long link
thx in advance
Rusty Bumper
Sep 30th, 2005, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by sneek
can some one tell me which one is the eqivelnt to a g100
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396669473&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474396670271&bmUID=1128131572127&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442458991&assortment=primary&fromSearch=true
or
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396669473&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474396670271&bmUID=1128131572085&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442458995&assortment=primary&fromSearch=true
im guessing the second one
sry 4 the long link
thx in advance
This part # --> 47-5940-2......(Second link)
sneek
Oct 1st, 2005, 03:36 PM
thx rusty bumper
Rusty Bumper
Oct 1st, 2005, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by sneek
thx rusty bumper
Glad to help. :)
Bwiser
Dec 17th, 2005, 05:31 PM
Hello, I noticed the cutting pad (7000 or 7006) were not in the list for the speeds or applications? Why is this?
Thanks!
Mike Phillips
Dec 17th, 2005, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by Bwiser
Hello, I noticed the cutting pad (7000 or 7006) were not in the list for the speeds or applications? Why is this?
Thanks!
Hindsight and changes in procedures and practices.
I'll try to update the chart.
inthedetails
Dec 18th, 2005, 03:39 AM
Can someone (read Mike - but I'll take anyones answer) explain the difference in philosophy in PC use. I have used my PC as instructed here with great results, but when I first started I was instructed to use far less pressure..it seemed to work OK too.
Anyone, anyone.....Bueller?
RobAGD
Apr 22nd, 2006, 08:45 PM
Bump reminder on a new chart :)
I am getting started on equiping myself so that I can put a mirror like finish on my Magnum R/T :)
Thanks for all the helpfull tips !
-R
inthedetails
Apr 24th, 2006, 04:34 AM
Bump here too....
Originally posted by inthedetails
Can someone (read Mike - but I'll take anyones answer) explain the difference in philosophy in PC use. I have used my PC as instructed here with great results, but when I first started I was instructed to use far less pressure..it seemed to work OK too.
Anyone, anyone.....Bueller?
Mike Phillips
Apr 24th, 2006, 04:43 AM
I'll update the chart and aswer the questions today.
ubergab
Jun 15th, 2006, 07:04 PM
Hello Mike,
It's Joseph again...Yes, my new G100 I ordered did not come with the backing plate or the foam pad.
Can you help me?
Thanks,
Joseph G
Mister B
Jun 16th, 2006, 04:20 AM
Give Customer Service a call. They Will be able to take care of you.
Customer Service. 1-800-347-5700
gb387
Jun 16th, 2006, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by ubergab
Hello Mike,
It's Joseph again...Yes, my new G100 I ordered did not come with the backing plate or the foam pad.
Can you help me?
Thanks,
Joseph G
G100 or G100A? G100 does not have the backing plate and pad but the G100A does.
Mike Phillips
Jun 16th, 2006, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by gb387
G100 or G100A? G100 does not have the backing plate and pad but the G100A does.
Joseph should have received the G100a if he purchased it at one of our Saturday classes because that's all we offer at these classes, so chances are very good it was a shipping mistake.
Regardless, Joseph keeps posting to non related threads instead of starting his own, so I'll e-mail him and then delete all these off-topic posts.
tambo916
Sep 20th, 2006, 07:07 PM
Product, Pad and Speed settings for the Porter Cable Dual Action Polisher
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2ProductPadSpeedPC.JPG
Additional considerations…
The above recommendations are only a starting point. Keep in mind; there are many variables, which contribute to the overall performance of a product, and the end result.
For example:
1) Paint – Type of paint, age of paint, hardness of paint…all of these play into which pad and product will work best for that particular application.
2) Pressure – Increased pressure means increased “cutting action”…In some cases this is needed, and in other case this could be detrimental to the surface.
3) OPM’s – By increasing the OPM's’s of the machine, you automatically increase the action of the machine. This means additional “cutting action” for when using products that have swirl removal capability. However, if you’re simply spreading “wax”, you should reduce the speed of the machine at this stage of application.
4) Arm Speed – The quicker you move your arms back and forth, the less chance the product has to do it job. For example, a swirl remover needs to be allowed to work itself into the surface. The slower the arm speed the greater chance of removing swirls.
5) Pad Choice – The more aggressive the pad, the more “cutting” action will take place. You must first evaluate your finish, determine your goal, and then choose the appropriate pad to do the job.
6) Product Choice - You must first evaluate your finish, determine your goal, and then choose the appropriate product to do the job.
By evaluating the finish, choosing the right product, and using good techniques, a quality finish can be achieved fairly simply.
Mike,
How come it says that the fine-cut and medium-cut cleaner are recommended for rotary use only? On page 5 of your 2006 professional catalog under methods of use it says you can use either with hand, orbital, D/A Polisher, or rotary.
Rusty Bumper
Sep 20th, 2006, 09:16 PM
Mike,
How come it says that the fine-cut and medium-cut cleaner are recommended for rotary use only? On page 5 of your 2006 professional catalog under methods of use it says you can use either with hand, orbital, D/A Polisher, or rotary.
To the best of my knowledge the formulas were changed after he made the chart.
road hog
Nov 29th, 2006, 03:01 PM
I see on the G100 products, pad and speed chart, M-97 MPPC is listed for DA use under the paint cleaner section. I can't find this product anywhere on the Meguire's site.
Mike Phillips
Nov 29th, 2006, 03:10 PM
I see on the G100 products, pad and speed chart, M-97 MPPC is listed for DA use under the paint cleaner section. I can't find this product anywhere on the Meguire's site.
It's been discontinued. If you have a question about what to use in its place, post the question here,
The G-100 Dual Action Polisher (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=67)
Include what it is you're working on and the condition of the paint. :D
BlueZero
Nov 29th, 2006, 03:11 PM
I see on the G100 products, pad and speed chart, M-97 MPPC is listed for DA use under the paint cleaner section. I can't find this product anywhere on the Meguire's site.
MPPC has been discontinued, I'm pretty sure my local store has some in stock. So if you really want some, I'd check around.
Brandywine
Jan 20th, 2007, 01:31 PM
Hi Mike,
I'm new to Meguiar's web site, but not some of the products. I'm in need of assistance in choosing which product to use with several different applications.
I have a 2000 ACURA and a 2001 JEEP that have OEM basecoat/clearcoat. Then I have the toys...
1980 Corvette with 3 stage (base/candy/clear) paint 5 years old (fiberglass)
2 Harley Davidson's with 3 stage (base/candy/clear) paint 3-5 years old (both plastic and sheet metal)
I've done some searching on the website, but... What are the general guidlines for using which product/pad/setting for optimizing the different finishes on the different surfaces?Scottwax2
BTW, thanks for the kind words in your SHOW OFF! forum.:)
mdbluebrd
Jan 23rd, 2007, 07:08 PM
I'll update the chart and aswer the questions today.
Perhaps I've missed the updated chart somewhere... The Lake Country website has a nice comparison of their pads
Commercial Link Removed - Please Read the Forum Rules - Thank you
and I'd be willing to contribute a similar graphic if I can get all the data.
avwh
Feb 13th, 2007, 10:35 AM
I have a PC 7424 - would the same settings and pads be applicable?
Mike Phillips
Feb 13th, 2007, 10:40 AM
I have a PC 7424 - would the same settings and pads be applicable?
Yes.
The only difference between the Meguiar's polisher and the PC 7424 and the PC 7336 is the Meguiar's unit has their name on it and when you purchase it from Meguiar's they offer a lifetime warranty. Other than that you can call it a G100 or a PC and you're talking about the same thing.
Mike Phillips
Feb 13th, 2007, 10:43 AM
Perhaps I've missed the updated chart somewhere... The Lake Country website has a nice comparison of their pads
Commercial Link Removed - Please Read the Forum Rules - Thank you
and I'd be willing to contribute a similar graphic if I can get all the data.
Lake Country sells a pad referred to as the VC pad or the variable contact pad. We looked at one of these pads over the weekend and for the life of us, we could not figure out how this pad made sense?
Could someone please make sense of this pad?
Mike Phillips
Feb 13th, 2007, 10:51 AM
Mike,
How come it says that the fine-cut and medium-cut cleaner are recommended for rotary use only? On page 5 of your 2006 professional catalog under methods of use it says you can use either with hand, orbital, D/A Polisher, or rotary.
Formulas have been changed making the chart out of date, we'll add it to our to-do list.
Murr1525
Feb 13th, 2007, 10:52 AM
Sounds like it is mostly for tight areas, like pillars?
Mike Phillips
Feb 13th, 2007, 10:56 AM
Sounds like it is mostly for tight areas, like pillars?
Have you ever seen one, held it in your hand or attached it to a polisher?
It's not marketed for tigh areas.
This subject is taking this thread off-topic, my fault, so let's end it here.
BCESVT1
Mar 7th, 2007, 02:50 PM
Should I use the 8006 or 9006 pad for A2116 Deep Crystal polish?
CRASH3
Mar 16th, 2007, 05:09 PM
On the chart I see it does not recommend a pad or speed for the #2 fine cut cleaner. Which pad and speed should I use? I have the PC.
Thanks,:)
CRASH3
Mar 17th, 2007, 11:06 AM
On the chart I see it does not recommend a pad or speed for the #2 fine cut cleaner. Which pad and speed should I use? I have the PC.
Thanks,:)
Never mind I found where it stated that ic can be used with the PC. Now here is a dumb question. Do you use say a W9006 to apply the wax and then another W9006 pad to remove it?
Thanks,:)
gb387
Mar 17th, 2007, 11:22 AM
Never mind I found where it stated that ic can be used with the PC. Now here is a dumb question. Do you use say a W9006 to apply the wax and then another W9006 pad to remove it?
Thanks,:)
Well.... you apply the wax with a W9006 then either remove the wax by hand using a quality microfiber like, Supreme Shine Microfiber (http://www.meguiars.com/?car-wash-towels/Supreme-Shine-Microfiber) -or- you can use a bonnet over a W7006 Cutting Pad to remove the wax via PC. Meguiars no longer has bonnets for the PC but you can find them from other sources like Auto Detailing Solutions web site.
Never remove wax with a pad alone.
Rusty Bumper
Mar 17th, 2007, 09:46 PM
...Meguiars no longer has bonnets for the PC but you can find them from other sources like Auto Detailing Solutions web site.
That's news to me!
gb387
Mar 17th, 2007, 10:08 PM
That's news to me!
Its a bummer but true there are still larger ones but no more 6.5's Meguiars recommends looking for another source on them!?!? ADS has their own now.
CRASH3
Mar 18th, 2007, 08:22 AM
Thanks for the help.
Later,:)
FLEA
Apr 2nd, 2007, 01:56 PM
Hi, new here. Is there any recommendations for cleaning the polishing pads, such as machine wash or hand washing?
Mike Phillips
Apr 2nd, 2007, 02:00 PM
Hi, new here. Is there any recommendations for cleaning the polishing pads, such as machine wash or hand washing?
Hi FLEA,
Welcome to Meguiar's Online!
There are a number of threads on this forum that explain how to clean a foam buffing pad, probably in the Hot Topics forum (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=80). Give us a second and we'll see if we can find one or two...
Mike Phillips
Apr 2nd, 2007, 02:04 PM
Hi, new here. Is there any recommendations for cleaning the polishing pads, such as machine wash or hand washing?
We were wrong, it was in the How To Articles (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=33)
Here you go...
How to clean Meguiar's foam buffing pads (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3598)
Got Questions?
Check out the The Information Station (http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=82)
:) :) :)
J. A. Michaels
Apr 2nd, 2007, 04:06 PM
Iprinted out the speed settings and they are now folded in my container of my foam pads. Thanks for the useful information as always.
FLEA
Apr 2nd, 2007, 05:34 PM
Thanks!:bow
g88
Mar 9th, 2008, 10:24 PM
hi guys, i still dun seem to see the chart which updated with W7006 pad information.
Am i miss out anything here ?
Tim Lingor
Mar 9th, 2008, 10:47 PM
hi guys, i still dun seem to see the chart which updated with W7006 pad information.
Am i miss out anything here ?
I am not sure what you are asking? Page one of this thread has the Meguiar's chart for recommended pads and speed settings for the G-100/G-110 DA Polishers.
Meguiar's does not recommend using the W-7006 Cutting Pad with the the G-100 or the G-110 as this pad was designed for rotary buffer use only and may haze the paint finish if used with the G-100/G110 DA Polishers, thereby requiring a rotary and someone experienced in using it to restore the gloss and clarity to the paint.
Tim
g88
Mar 9th, 2008, 11:18 PM
I am not sure what you are asking? Page one of this thread has the Meguiar's chart for recommended pads and speed settings for the G-100/G-110 DA Polishers.
Meguiar's does not recommend using the W-7006 Cutting Pad with the the G-100 or the G-110 as this pad was designed for rotary buffer use only and may haze the paint finish if used with the G-100/G110 DA Polishers, thereby requiring a rotary and someone experienced in using it to restore the gloss and clarity to the paint.
Tim
Oh... not recommend. OK ok ...than i shall not get it Scottwax2...tot the chart might have miss out 7006 pairing with M83, 82, or 80.
Thanks again, Tim ! U've been very helpful
Tim Lingor
Mar 10th, 2008, 06:38 AM
Oh... not recommend. OK ok ...than i shall not get it Scottwax2...tot the chart might have miss out 7006 pairing with M83, 82, or 80.
Thanks again, Tim ! U've been very helpful
You are welcome! :)
Now, to alleviate any confusion, people do often use the W-7006 with a microfiber bonnet over it for wax removal when using the DA. But again, it is not to be used with the DA for applying a compound etc...
I hope that helps! :)
Tim
Jossy92
Mar 10th, 2008, 02:04 PM
I am making a little folder called "techniques" that I am going to have right next to me when I start my first detail attempt. This post will definitely be in it. THanks, :xyxthumbs
Sprzout
Mar 11th, 2008, 11:31 PM
Well.... you apply the wax with a W9006 then either remove the wax by hand using a quality microfiber like, Supreme Shine Microfiber (http://www.meguiars.com/?car-wash-towels/Supreme-Shine-Microfiber) -or- you can use a bonnet over a W7006 Cutting Pad to remove the wax via PC. Meguiars no longer has bonnets for the PC but you can find them from other sources like Auto Detailing Solutions web site.
Never remove wax with a pad alone.
I lucked out and discovered that my dad bought some of these MF bonnets at a car show last year. He'd tucked those things away, and I threw one onto a cutting pad and used it to strip the wax off of my car. It's WONDERFUL, and helped save me time and elbow grease. It's kind of a shame that Meguiar's isn't making those anymore, or even a pad that simulates the MF bonnet...
accordoum
Mar 18th, 2008, 12:54 PM
I lucked out and discovered that my dad bought some of these MF bonnets at a car show last year. He'd tucked those things away, and I threw one onto a cutting pad and used it to strip the wax off of my car. It's WONDERFUL, and helped save me time and elbow grease. It's kind of a shame that Meguiar's isn't making those anymore, or even a pad that simulates the MF bonnet...
I'm a little confuse here...
Recommanded pads to apply product: W9006/W8006 depending on the product using.
What does Meguiar's recommanded to remove the wax/polish...?
I did not see these MF bonnets in the Meguiar's products.
I know I can remove it by hand with Meguiar’s Supreme Shine® or Meguiar’s Soft Buff™ Terry Towels but is there a pad that I can use to remove the wax/polish?
Mike Phillips
Mar 18th, 2008, 01:04 PM
I'm a little confuse here...
Recommanded pads to apply product: W9006/W8006 depending on the product using.
What does Meguiar's recommanded to remove the product?
I did not see these MF bonnets in the Meguiar's products.
I know I can remove it by hand with Meguiar’s Supreme Shine® or Meguiar’s Soft Buff™ Terry Towels but is there a pad that I can use to remove the wax/polish?
We use to carry a microfiber bonnet in our Consumer Line that you could place over our W-7006 Foam Cutting Pad and use this on the 5.0 setting to remove dried wax.
We discontinued this microfiber bonnet and rumor is it will re-appear in our Professional Line sometime in the future.
Until then there are other online vendors that sell small microfiber bonnets for removing wax by machine.
Also, our cutting pad is not recommended for applying chemicals to paint at this time as it tends to haze most clear coats, BUT because the foam is fairly stiff it works great for removing dried wax.
Our other pads don't work as well because they are softer and this softness or give in the foam doesn't aid in the removal of wax, thus the recommendation for the stiffer cutting pad.
Also, since most people know we don't recommend our cutting pad for use to apply chemicals, if you purchase a cutting pad and designate it for use with your bonnets it will always be clean and dry and ready to use.
(You can't use a dirty pad under a bonnet as the residue of whatever was on the pad will come off onto the inside of the bonnet, then you can't reverse the bonnet to use the other side)
Hope this helps...
:)
Bunky
Apr 29th, 2008, 08:40 AM
There was a thread that had many Meg's products with the arm speed, pressure, and DA speed listed but I cannot find it. It was an expanded version of the chart at the beginning of this thread. Does anyone remember it?
Bunky
Apr 29th, 2008, 09:10 AM
I finally found this one
http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7034
but I think there was a more concise one too.
Nappers
Apr 29th, 2008, 09:11 AM
Is this it?
How to use the G100 to remove swirls (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2965)
Check the "List O' Links (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20748)" on the home page upper right, great writings.
Aaron
skunkone
Jul 1st, 2008, 11:50 PM
can you use the consumer line with the G100A? is there a chart for them as well? or do you have to use the pro line if you own a G100A?
Tim Lingor
Jul 2nd, 2008, 07:05 AM
can you use the consumer line with the G100A? is there a chart for them as well? or do you have to use the pro line if you own a G100A?
Morning,
Yes, you can use the Consumer Line's cleaners, polishes and waxes with the G100. :)
Tim
skunkone
Jul 2nd, 2008, 07:27 AM
is there a chart for them as well?
Tim Lingor
Jul 2nd, 2008, 07:53 AM
is there a chart for them as well?
Here is the chart being discussed for people reading this thread:
http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2524
It contains the Pro items as well as the Consumer items such as ColorX, A12 Cleaner Wax, Gold Class etc...
But for DC 1, 2 and 3, we would suggest the following speeds:
DC#1: Speed 3-5
DC#2: Speed 2-4
DC#3: Speed 2-4
I hope that helps! :)
Tim
skunkone
Jul 2nd, 2008, 08:19 AM
pads and settings for:
G10307 SCRATCH-X (https://www.meguiars.com/estore/product_detailiStore.cfm?from=istore&item=19801)
A3016 DEEP CRYSTAL PAINT CLEANER (https://www.meguiars.com/estore/product_detailiStore.cfm?from=istore&item=16966)
A2116 DEEP CRYSTAL POLISH (https://www.meguiars.com/estore/product_detailiStore.cfm?from=istore&item=16900)
G12718 NXT GENERATION TECH WAX 2.0 (https://www.meguiars.com/estore/product_detailiStore.cfm?from=istore&item=17126)
didn't see those model numbers on the list
thanks for your help and fast responses
hotrod66paul
Jul 2nd, 2008, 10:18 AM
Have I missed it or is there a chart up-date for using D151 and scratchX as well as any other new products ?? :coolgleam
Mr. Shiny
Sep 15th, 2008, 12:10 PM
At first I was kind of confused with the chart but now I got the idea what Tim was saying.
I got a question on a product and pad. After finishing DC#2 with W-9006 Speed 2-4. Do I have to clean the W-9006 or use another fresh clean W-9006 for DC#3?
Mike Phillips
Sep 15th, 2008, 12:14 PM
Use a fresh pad or one you've already used for wax in the past.
Try to dedicated your pads for dedicated products, some people like to mark their pad with a permanent marker.
:)
Mr. Shiny
Sep 15th, 2008, 01:47 PM
cool. thanks mike.
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