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Webb
Apr 11th, 2004, 07:24 PM
Which one would be Step 1/2/3 in the pro line.
Thanks:xyxthumbs
2000
Apr 12th, 2004, 10:13 AM
you might get some different answers but I would say
#9 or#82 swirl remover as a replacement of step 1
#7 or #81 polish as a replacement to step 2
#16 or #26 or nxt wax as a replacement to step 3
do you intend to apply these by hand or machine? that will factor into the answer alittle. hope this helps.:)
Webb
Apr 12th, 2004, 01:21 PM
Thanks 2000,that will be done with a PC.:xyxthumbs
2000
Apr 12th, 2004, 01:54 PM
you should have no problem. good luck!
Mike Phillips
Apr 12th, 2004, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by Webb
Which one would be Step 1/2/3 in the pro line.
Thanks:xyxthumbs
Hi Webb,
The Deep Crystal System is a system of dedicated products for dedicated procedures.
After washing, you have,
Step 1 - Clean the paint using a dedicated paint cleaner, Step 1 Cleaner
Step 2 - Polish the paint using a dedicated pure polish, (non-abrasive), Step 2 Polish
Step 3 - Protect the paint using a dedicated pure wax, (no cleaners), Step 3 Protect
If you want to move over to using products from the Professional line, that perform the same procedures outlined above, then I need to know how you’re going to apply them.
By hand,
Step 1 - Clean the paint using a dedicated paint cleaner, Medallion Premium Paint Cleaner (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=M-97)
Step 2 – Polish the paint using a dedicated pure polish, either M-07 Show Car Glaze (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=M-07), or M-81 Hand Polish (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=M-81)
Step 3 – Protect the paint using a dedicated pure wax, like M-26 Hi Tech Yellow Wax (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=M-26), or M-16 Professional Paste Wax (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=M-16)
If you want to do it using a PC
As far as dedicated paint cleaners go in the professional line, you have a number of options,
* Medallion Premium Paint Cleaner
* M-02 Fine Cut Cleaner
* M-01 Medium Cut Cleaner
* M-04 Heavy Cut Cleaner
* M-84 Compound Power Cleaner
* M-85 Diamond Cut Compound
Of these, the MPPC is safe to use with a PC.
While not a dedicated paint cleaner, Meguiar's #83 Dual Action Cleaner Polish (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=M-83), is excellent at cleaning paint, (removing defects), and then breaking down into a polish and polishing the surface to a high gloss.
After this, you can, if you want, perform an extra step of applying a pure polish like the M-81 Hand Polish (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=M-81) using the PC and then applying a wax.
Again, if you want to stick with a pure wax in the Professional Line, then you’ll want to go with either M-26 Hi-Tech Yellow Wax, or M-16 Professional Paste wax. The liquid version of M-26 will be easy to apply using the PC, but the paste version can be applied using the PC, you just have to be a little more inventive as to how to get the wax onto the foam pad.
Just one more note, while the above products in the Professional Line are similar replacement for the Deep Crystal products in the Consumer Line, they are not the same formula’s.
Hope this helps…
Mike
p.s.
2000 actually did a pretty good job of answer your question, Autopia :confused:
Webb
Apr 12th, 2004, 06:53 PM
Thanks Bro :bigups
Another question,consumer line/pro line will make any difference on a new ( 2000 clear coated ) Car. :confused:
Rusty Bumper
Apr 13th, 2004, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by Webb
Thanks Bro :bigups
Another question,consumer line/pro line will make any difference on a new ( 2000 clear coated ) Car. :confused:
IMO, you will get more cleaning power with the pro line, as well as more gloss.
2000
Apr 13th, 2004, 05:44 AM
hey guys,
obviously Mike has the right answer, but it riased a little question in my head. is it wrong to view #9, #82, #84, mppc ect, as all really a cleaner? I mean is a cleaner just a polish with out the oils (or at least less oil than a pure polish), its just that some are more agressive than others, right? or is a cleaner really some thing completly different? polish is only for gloss and that would make #81 or #7 as the only "real polish" that we use. just trying to educate myself.
Webb
Apr 13th, 2004, 04:17 PM
Sorry my stupidity but..
Can I use these with a PC ? Or only by hand.
Step 1 - Clean the paint using a dedicated paint cleaner, Medallion Premium Paint Cleaner
Step 2 – Polish the paint using a dedicated pure polish, either M-07 Show Car Glaze, or M-81 Hand Polish
Step 3 – Protect the paint using a dedicated pure wax, like M-26 Hi Tech Yellow Wax, or M-16 Professional Paste Wax
2000
Apr 13th, 2004, 04:28 PM
yes all those can be applied with a pc. the great thing about a pc is it dublicates a hand motion without the work. you should be able to apply anything with a pc on the proper speed (not that you would want to use some thing to aggressive with a pc, for that you'd want to set up to a rotery.). now a rotery would be different story.
p.s. what stupidity?......you should see some of my questions:D
MattN03
Apr 13th, 2004, 05:04 PM
What about using # 80 Speed Glaze as a cleaner? I rarely read any posts on this product.
2000
Apr 13th, 2004, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by MattN03
What about using # 80 Speed Glaze as a cleaner? I rarely read any posts on this product.
ask and you shall recieve.
check this link.
http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=543
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