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Jarlhov
Apr 21st, 2004, 01:47 PM
I use a rotary machine with all compounds
I'll usually Begin with the #85 an the W-4000 wool cut pad. Then i follow up with the #85 and the W-7006 foam cut pad to remove the major swirls. I'll continue with the #82 and the W 9006 finnish pad to remove the rest of the swirls. On some paints i allso use the #82 by hand to create good gloss and to remove any small existing swirls. Then i finnish with eiter the NXT tec wax, Medallion ppc or the #26

any suggestions on how i can do a better jobb?
You may have to excuse my english because i'm from Sweden
Michael

Scottwax
Apr 21st, 2004, 08:59 PM
Are you sure you need to get as aggressive as #85 and a wool pad? I start off with #82 or #83 first.

What color paint do you have? Dark colors you'd probably like #26 as your final product and on lighter colors, #16 looks better. Either will work fine over NXT but wait 24 hours before using anything over NXT.

BTW, your English is better than a lot of Americans I know. ;)

Rockpick
Apr 21st, 2004, 09:21 PM
Welcome to meguiarsonline.com Jarlhov! We're glad to have you!

ScottWax brings a very good point in that starting with #85 may be creating more problems for you than you realized. You see, #85 Diamond Cut Compound 2.0 (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=M-85) is a VERY agressive compound that is commonly used to cut paint in many body shops (automotive repair) after wet sanding has been performed. Couple your cutting power with a wool pad and you really are using a very high-power, high-cut system. That's fine if you require that for the type of paint that you're working with but, I would suspect that it's probably too agressive and that you're removing excess paint that doesn't need to be removed. Plus, if it's a clear-coated finish, you may be unnecessarily thining out the clear-coat to the point that you may have issues farther down the road after repeated applications over long periods of time.

Meguiar's always recommends starting with the least agressive product that could potentially get the job done. Naturally, this requires some experimentation over a smaller area of a vehicle prior to completing the job. In short, test it out, if it works, use it. If not, go up a notch to see if something else will work. Naturally, I think the wool/#85 combo is working as it's just about as agressive as you can get but, like I mentioned earlier, it's probably too agressive unless you're working on 1500 grit sandpaper marks or similar harsh surface blemishes.

I suspect that ScottWax is exactly correct in recommeding starting with a less agressive product like #82 Swirl Free Polish (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=M-82) or #83 Dual Action Cleaner Polish (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=M-83) (commonly known as DACP for short). Both can easily be utilzed with a Rotary or Dual-Action machine and typically can knock out the majority of swirls by using a Soft Buff polishing pad (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=W-80) or maybe even a Soft Buff finishing pad (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=W-90). Personally, DACP is one of my favorite products!

I hope that helps out a bit. Please feel free to ask additional questions if you have them as we'll definately try to help!
Also, feel free to surf over to Meguiar's Europe (www.meguiars.com/europe).

RP :D

Jarlhov
Apr 22nd, 2004, 12:29 AM
Yes i know tha starting with the #85 wool pad is the mosts aggressive i can get. I forgott to tell you that I work as a detailer an about 80% of the cars have pretty nasty scatches. And sometimes the paint is a couple ocf years old and very hard.At our detailer shop we always remove 100% of the scratches if possible. I'm pretty comfortable with the #85 #83 to use as a start. But on some paint i feel tha eventhe #82 and the w-9006 will leave very thin swirls, and therefore I have to go by hand after that on some paints.

Don
Apr 22nd, 2004, 03:10 AM
Originally posted by Scottwax

BTW, your English is better than a lot of Americans I know. ;)


:D I was about to say the same thing :D I hear ebonics most of the day at work, so even heavily accented english is fine with me.

Jarlhov your grammar and spelling are fine, and while I agree with the others that #85 + rotary + wool pad is too aggressive for my taste, if it's working for you, who am I to question your methods?

Welcome to Meguiars On Line

Tim Lingor
Apr 22nd, 2004, 07:09 AM
Hey,

While I agree that #85 Diamond Cut and the Wool pad is very aggressive, I rarely need to go to this extreme. I will use this combo after wet sanding a finish or isolated defects.

I would suggest that for Moderate surface defects to use Meguiar's #84 Compound Power Cleaner with the W-7006 Cutting Pad. Again, I rarely have to go more aggressive than this.

It is best to use the least aggressive product to get the job done. Normally, I start with #83 DACP and a W-8006 polishing pad. Then and only then, I will move up to #84 if I have to.


Cheers!
Tim