1933 Plymouth Pickup truck?????

[walt1953]

Hey can anybody help Me get a picture of a 1933 Plymouth Pickup Truck???
I believe this Truck was produced only one year 1933.

[sneek]

Re: 1933 Plymouth Pickup truck?????

i am not sure if this is it

http://www.plymouthdoctor.com/images/truck/01.jpg

[Mike Phillips]

Re: 1933 Plymouth Pickup truck?????

Did some googling,




didn't find much, perhaps our fourm members can put the Google Hats on and pitch-in?


Here's a links page on a site just for 1933 Plymouths

www.ply33.com

You might click on some of the links of the above sites or e-mail some of the contacts.


Plymouth Discussion Forum




Did find a great page for AMC Pacers by accident...

Pacer Photos Page

[Mike Phillips]

Re: 1933 Plymouth Pickup truck?????

Pretty rare truck, maybe our forum members can did up some more information or photos, one place we didn't check was Hemming's online,

www.hmn.com

[Michael Stoops]

Re: 1933 Plymouth Pickup truck?????

I found several sources talking about Plymouth pickups that included later model years than '33, so it appears Plymouth was building pickups for several years.

Among those resources:

http://www.autogallery.org.ru/m/plymoutg.htm

http://www.rasloto.com/gallery/gallery_dodge.html

http://www.allpar.com/history/plymouth/pickups.html

The last one is interesting in that it seems to refute the notion that Plymouth ever offered a factory pickup in the first place!! allpar.com is usually a very reliable source for all things Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth/DeSoto etc.

[PC Plymouth]

Re: 1933 Plymouth Pickup truck?????

There is no such thing as a 1933 plymouth pickup or truck of any kind. Plymouth did not start making pickups until model year 1937 with the 1/2 ton Model PT-50. The reason I say 'model year' is because they were released for sale in November 1936 but are considered 1937s. I have seen several 1933 Plymouth pickups over the years but they are all, of course, made out of sedans. The center of the car cut out and the 'tub' moved forward and welded on at the front seat. Because the car is 'square' ,the fit is exact. I think that's why so many have be made up. The boxes I've been told are usually Chevs.

[ColonelCash]

Re: 1933 Plymouth Pickup truck?????

There is no such thing as a 1933 plymouth pickup or truck of any kind. Plymouth did not start making pickups until model year 1937 with the 1/2 ton Model PT-50. The reason I say 'model year' is because they were released for sale in November 1936 but are considered 1937s. I have seen several 1933 Plymouth pickups over the years but they are all, of course, made out of sedans. The center of the car cut out and the 'tub' moved forward and welded on at the front seat. Because the car is 'square' ,the fit is exact. I think that's why so many have be made up. The boxes I've been told are usually Chevs.

Talk about a first post! Welcome to MOL!!

[Hemin8r]

Re: 1933 Plymouth Pickup truck?????

These are definitely some beautiful trucks. Great post Mike on the links. I thought this part was weird. I as well thought the first year was 1937.hmm


"I have heard stories of the factory building such "specials" for well-heeled dealers. But these stories have never been substantiated. And, to add a little fel to the fire, records obtained from the trade paper Automotive News indicate that 123 Plymouth trucks were registered nationwide in 1934. Now, if they never made any, how could 123 Plymouth trucks be registered in 1934??"

http://www.allpar.com/history/plymouth/pickups.html

[PC Plymouth]

Re: 1933 Plymouth Pickup truck?????

I read the article at Allpar and it's does say the one truck that a photo of was obtained did show 1937/38 fenders. So it would follow it is, or maybe is the remains, of a PT-50. However how 123 Plymouth trucks would be registered in 1934 really has my interest. I've been collecting and hanging around antique Plymouths since 1977 when I bought my 1st one ,a 1929 Model U four door sedan. Since then I've owned a barn fresh 1931 PA six wire wheel sedan and presently own a 1933 PC sedan. I also am in the process of restoring a 1935 Dodge van which shares much with the '33 Plymouth.
That's not to say my word is gospel, but in 31 years I've never seen a legitimate Plymouth pick up earlier than the 1937 PT-50. I have a photo of one in my archives that was for sale back in the '90s, in primer, for $3000. I knocked on the door of the house and of course asked how they had acquired a '33 PC pick up truck. They readily fessed up to modifing a '33 PC two door sedan and adding a Chev. box from the same vintage. With some finishing touches and a paint job you would be hard pressed to tell it's not 'real'.
Is this how Plymouth pick ups prior to 1937 'got out there'? Are they 'urban legends'? I have many car history books including Don Butler's 'The Plymouth/DeSoto Story'. Don worked in the styling area of Chrylser and retired from there. He does not mention or show any Plymouth trucks prior to the '37 PT-50 EXCEPT some small light duty trucks that were made in 1929 and '30 under the names 'FARGO' and 'PACKET'. Both were rebadged 4 cylinder Plymouths. Chrysler stopped making them at the end of '29. There were no 1930s. Are these the 123 "Plymouths' registered in 1934? I wonder?

[Mike Phillips]

Re: 1933 Plymouth Pickup truck?????

My second car in 1976 was a 1948 Plymouth Coupe, before it I owned a 1926 Hot Rod Model T and between the Model T and the 1948 Plymouth I almost had my dad talked into dragging home a 1937 Plymouth Coupe but because it was such a rusted out relic he stopped me. It did run and drive but it had such bad cancer it was beyond my ability to fix at age 16

Here's one of the few pictures I have of my high school car...

[Hemin8r]

Re: 1933 Plymouth Pickup truck?????

Very nice Mike. It would be nice to to an extreme makeover on one of these.

[montevals]

Re: 1933 Plymouth Pickup truck?????

Walt1953

Your Plymouth Pickup looks a lot like the one I have had for over 12 years. It is a 1936 Plymouth Pickup, they only made 1056 and I've only seen two others. I did see a 1936 Plymouth Panel.

I have seen a 1935 Plymouth Pickup and a 1934 Plymouth Pickup they resemble the 1934 and 1935 Plymouth cars.
Chrysler started making Plymouth Pickups in 1933 through 1936 in the Fargo facility in Canada. the 1933 through 1935 did not come to North America. In 1936 the Plymouth Pickup was shipped to dealers in North America as a pilot program to see how they would do. My 1936 Plymouth Pickup was called a 1/4 ton. It was purchased new in Perkins, Oklahoma, where I purchased it 12 years ago. It had never left the county and it had no hood and grill. It took me 4 years to find a grill and I still don't have a hood. The reason is that the 1936 Plymouth pickup grill is about 6" shorter than the car and the hood is shorter than a car and the hood at the cab cuts back to the front where the car is straight.

Hope this helps you.

Also the difference between a 1936 and a 1937 is that the 1936 lights are mounted on the finders and the 1937 lights are mounted on the couling.

[PC Plymouth]

Re: 1933 Plymouth Pickup truck?????

There are no legitimate Plymouth pickup trucks prior to the 1937 PT50. All are fakes as far as anyone knows. For instance there is a 1936 pickup on auction on E-bay right now and it too is made out of a sedan as the owner states. Bare chassis or 'cowl and chassis' were shipped to Sweden through all those years of the 30s but none that we know of were made into pickups. Windsor Canada never made any Plymouth trucks at all for local consumption. Did some get made and sent overseas? None have ever shown up. Canadian Fargo and Dodge trucks are very common in Great Britain and the Commonwealth but still no pickups just vans and stakes and some WWII specials.
But just to clarify one point, starting in 1935,Plymouth did make a kind of delivery vehicle out of their car. It was called a 'Commercial Sedan' but is obviously a car with a back door where the trunk should be. The rear side doors were removed, and sometimes the rear side glass, making the car look like a small van. Sometimes the rear side glass remained. Perhaps these are the 'trucks' that are registered in 1935?
Starting in around 1934/35 some 'cowl and chassis' were sent out to body manufacturers like Cantrell and station wagon bodies were installed. There are surviving photos in the Chrysler Archives of these and some of them are still around. They are very rare because of the rot of the exposed wood.
But no pickups until the Fall of 1936 when Chrysler released the 1937 PT50.
I am a member of the Plymouth Owners Club Inc. and I'm very interested in those Plymouth pickups made from 1933 onward. Do you have any photos of those pickups? Could you tell me where you last saw one? The Club has never been able to track down any legitimate ones but we would love to find one. We have members all over the world, including Sweden,Denmark,England,Germany,South Africa,Mexico,Australia,all of the U.S. and Canada,you name it,and we could possibly have a member take a photo and document the serial numbers. The Chrysler Archives in Detroit has all the build sheets for all CPDD vehicles built from around 1928 and we can see what Chrysler called it when it left the factory by it's chassis and engine serial numbers.
For instance my 1935 Dodge KCL was called out as a 'cowl and chassis' according to the Dodge Main Oct. 23rd 1935 build sheet and it had a custom built 3 door delivery van body installed on it by a private Toronto truck body company when it got here.
Maybe if you can find one of these pickups we could run the build sheet and see what it started life as. Dodge did build a pickup in 1933 and called it an 'Express'. If just one Plymouth build sheet a used similiar name ,and we had the vehicle, it would end many years of speculation.

[WAKA13]

Re: 1933 Plymouth Pickup truck?????

Hi from New Zealand.....have just purchased a well used 1936 Plymouth truck model PT50. Is not a cut down car but is different to US 1937 model in that it has a lot of wood used in cab rear panel,doors,& door frames.
Also has fuel filler under passengers seat not in rear quarter of cab.
This truck is right hand drive so spare wheel mount is on LHF guard but
floor mounted starter button still on left.......you need to be fairly flexible to get starting process right ! Can anyone out there help with information
on these early Plymouth trucks ? I suspect this one could have been built in Canada or possibly an Australian built body on export chassis ?
Body tag Model # PT50 Serial # 8860495. Look forward to hearing from anyone with some knowledge on these. Kirk.

[yorubdub]

Re: 1933 Plymouth Pickup truck?????

My father has what he has been calling a 1934 Plymouth Pickup. He has had this truck for close to forty years and got it from an old indian that owned a junkyard out on the reservation. He has the actual title for it. The title states, "1934 Plymouth Roadster". Do you think this is a "real" pickup or would the title description signal that it is a modified coupe? Ever since I was a child he has stated that it is a very rare vehicle...