White Wax

[GoZoner]

Re: White Wax

[Never mind...]

[wslwang]

Re: White Wax

Let's say if my car is clean? May I use black wax to boost some shine based on this ?

We posted this in the Black Wax thread but want to include it here as well for those who are following the White Wax thread more closely. To put White Wax and Black Wax in perspective with our A12 Cleaner Wax, this graphic should help:



You can see that both of these new waxes offer a lot more protection than Cleaner Wax does, but White gives a whole lot more cleaning ability while Black gives a lot more polishing ability.

[Soarer5]

Re: White Wax

Let's say if my car is clean? May I use black wax to boost some shine based on this ?

Unless you have newly sprayed paint, there is no reason why you can't use it.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: White Wax

Let's say if my car is clean? May I use black wax to boost some shine based on this ?

While you certainly could, you might actually want a more premium product to use on a white car in excellent condition. Something like Ultimate Wax or NXT Tech Wax are still polish/waxes but since they're pure synthetics they'll last longer than either White or Black Wax. But Black Wax is certainly an option in that case.

[BTLew81]

Re: White Wax

Mike...cure time needed before topping?

[Ultraman]

Re: White Wax

I apply UPW once a week after washing. If I get White Wax, do I apply this once a month? At this rate, is it safe for my clear coat in the long term?

[Michael Stoops]

Re: White Wax

Mike...cure time needed before topping?

Not really, no. Since it's not a full synthetic you don't have that whole cross linking of polymers to worry about if you choose to apply another wax on top of this.

I apply UPW once a week after washing. If I get White Wax, do I apply this once a month? At this rate, is it safe for my clear coat in the long term?

Really? Why are you using so much wax? As for frequency of use with the White Wax, depending on how you apply it there should be no issues with clear coat life. Now, if you decide to aggressively apply it with a DA and polishing pad every week you might run into trouble down the line, but we don't expect anyone to treat a vehicle this way.

If you're taking really good care of your finish you shouldn't need to use a strong cleaner wax more than 2 or 3 times a year.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: White Wax

We want to be sure and point out a couple of things about these two new waxes:

1 - There are no dyes or colorants of any kind in these waxes. We expect that to be a concern with the Black Wax especially, but it is nothing like that other black wax on the market.

2 - These are sort of like paste waxes in a tube; think about the delivery of toothpaste from a tube and you're really close. The tube is a metalized material so you can roll it up from the bottom, just like a toothpaste tube (which you all roll up from the bottom, right????). The wax itself has a consistency somewhere between what you expect from a true paste and a true liquid, but once you get it on a pad, either a hand pad or a DA pad, it spreads like warm butter. Both will dry to a light haze quite quickly and wipe off is very easy.

[79elcamino]

Re: White Wax

if the car has a clear coat on it whats the point of having a wax for a color when you dont work on the colored paint you work on the clear coat??

[Soarer5]

Re: White Wax

if the car has a clear coat on it whats the point of having a wax for a color when you dont work on the colored paint you work on the clear coat??

For example we can look at a white and black car, which one easily shows dust, dirt, and grime? We all know white doesn't give off the same deep reflection as black does. The color behind the clear is important. The new White and Black Wax is keeping things simple for the everyday consumer.

[GhOsT1321]

Re: White Wax

if the car has a clear coat on it whats the point of having a wax for a color when you don't work on the colored paint you work on the clear coat??

I believe it has little specifically to do with the colors but more the appearance of the colors. For example, any car that shows scratches any other imperfections easily would likely benefit more from black wax, where as a color that tends to hide imperfections would benefit more from white wax. Another factor to consider would be that darker colored cars absorb much more UV rays than lighter color cars, so they need polishing oils more often to address the oils being dissolved by UV radiation (like the cholesterol in our skin) or simply dried out.
In short, white wax is for vehicle paint that primarily need defect removal, with a lesser emphasis on polishing oils, while still having a high quality long lasting wax.
Where as, black wax is for vehicle paint that primarily needs polishing oils with a lesser emphasis on defect removal, while still having a high quality long lasing wax.
I see these as higher end AIOs with an emphasis either on defect removal, or paint conditioning with polishing oil.
We also need to remember that most of Meguiar's products and marketing is designated towards the average Joe, not a highly knowledgeable enthusiast. It's simplified to make the choice of "What product do I need" easier for the average person.

[Murr1525]

Re: White Wax

Most forum members here would probably enjoy the Black Wax most on their white car, since their car will already be clean.

But a little extra cleaning ability for a daily driver could be handy in any color, eps by hand.... so I have a feeling I will try the White one.

But the average Joe doesnt know that...

[Michael Stoops]

Re: White Wax

if the car has a clear coat on it whats the point of having a wax for a color when you dont work on the colored paint you work on the clear coat??

As the other guys have pointed out, these aren't "colored waxes" per se, but rather formulated for what "light to white" and "dark to black" colors need most. Hence the more aggressive cleaners for lighter colors in order to brighten up the color, and the higher polish load for darker colors to enhance the richness of color.

That does not mean you can't use them flipped around, so to speak. If youk've got a darker colored paint that is showing some fine swirls, etc then using the White Wax with a DA and a yellow polishing pad could be the better choice at that moment for that paint.

But GhOsT1321 totally nailed it with this comment: It's simplified to make the choice of "What product do I need" easier for the average person.

[79elcamino]

Re: White Wax

gotcha

[Jomax]

How does it compare to D151?