#105 Drying Too Fast

rusty bumper · Sep 23rd, 2009, 11:31 AM

Found this thread on Autopia...

http://www.autopia.org/forum/machine...ying-fast.html

Some of the members there are having problems with #105 drying too fast.

Anyone here had that problem?

Nappers · Sep 23rd, 2009, 11:43 AM

I'm having a battle with M105 drying too fast with my G100-8207 pad.....

Clean on the fly, cool temperatures, shady area and clayed area.....

M205 is a dream to use. You can apply it, eat lunch, finish working it and wipe off (not really but you get it

)

rusty bumper · Sep 23rd, 2009, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nappers

I'm having a battle with M105 drying too fast with my G100-8207 pad.

I was thinking about buying a bottle of it, but I'm not so sure now.

Nappers · Sep 23rd, 2009, 12:56 PM

I think 99.9% of products is experience.

I use it all the time for paint, plastics, metals....

It's a good product, just need to learn it I guess.....

It was originally made for rotary use to remove sanding marks....

I use UC mostly then follow with M205 or SwirlX.

edit: I forgot to add that when using with the rotary and 8207 pads, it worked wonders and knocked out swirls on a Ford Explorer I was doing, I had very few problems of what I call Pad Puking.....

It's a good product.

Andrew C. · Sep 23rd, 2009, 01:42 PM

I have had M105 drying on me be a problem before. The solution that I found was to use a good amount of product (not neccessarily more than should be used) and shrink down your work space. I know that for optimal results with the DA, you should do about a 12x12 area, but I tend to fudge it a little and go bigger with most products and just work it in a little longer. Unfortunately with M105 if you do that, it will start to dry out on you, so you have to shrink down the space.

I'm interested to see what some others have tried.

Nappers · Sep 23rd, 2009, 01:44 PM

Good point Andrew.....With my 6" pads, I would kiss an area the pad width making four areas in a square and kiss the middle and work that in....with my 2.0's, I would do the same and thus the area larger with a bigger pad.....

I'll shrink the area back down and try it again. I know the stuff works, just need to get the process dialed in as well as my test spot

Zuke · Sep 23rd, 2009, 01:53 PM

Does 105 saturate the pad quicker than 205 for everyone? Or just me...

Michael Stoops · Sep 23rd, 2009, 02:29 PM

As a few of the more experienced guys in that Autopia thread have mentioned, M105 is a bit of a unique product. Across the board those who love it and get great results are not using it the way they would use one of our diminishing abrasive products like M83, M85, etc. That difference includes using a bit less product and keeping the work area nice and small.

Part of M105 uniqueness is that you can often get away with a bit less product than you might think, which may account for Zuke seeing it saturate his pad fairly quickly. While the buffing cycle is nowhere near as long as M205 (which is just amazingly, incredibly long!) it should give you plenty of time to work a small area - too many people let that work area expand a bit too much.

scott0999 · Sep 23rd, 2009, 05:33 PM

I havent noticed mine dry up. I do get a good bit of dusting though

Mark Kleis · Sep 23rd, 2009, 06:42 PM

Running out the door, and didn't have time to check that link, but generally I find M105 most pleasurable at lower speeds. I typically run it at 1,000 RPM via rotary and it reduced flashing issues.

Sep 23rd, 2009, 11:43 AM	#2
Nappers Proverbs 13:9 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yreka, CA Age: 41 Posts: 3,422 Rep Power: 175	Re: #105 Drying Too Fast I'm having a battle with M105 drying too fast with my G100-8207 pad..... Clean on the fly, cool temperatures, shady area and clayed area..... M205 is a dream to use. You can apply it, eat lunch, finish working it and wipe off (not really but you get it) __________________ The light of the righteous shines brightly, but the lamp of the wicked is snuffed out.

Sep 23rd, 2009, 12:56 PM	#4
Nappers Proverbs 13:9 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yreka, CA Age: 41 Posts: 3,422 Rep Power: 175	Re: #105 Drying Too Fast I think 99.9% of products is experience. I use it all the time for paint, plastics, metals.... It's a good product, just need to learn it I guess..... It was originally made for rotary use to remove sanding marks.... I use UC mostly then follow with M205 or SwirlX. edit: I forgot to add that when using with the rotary and 8207 pads, it worked wonders and knocked out swirls on a Ford Explorer I was doing, I had very few problems of what I call Pad Puking..... It's a good product. __________________ The light of the righteous shines brightly, but the lamp of the wicked is snuffed out.

Sep 23rd, 2009, 01:42 PM	#5
Andrew C. aka andrewc_11890 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Clemente, California Posts: 1,198 Rep Power: 23	Re: #105 Drying Too Fast I have had M105 drying on me be a problem before. The solution that I found was to use a good amount of product (not neccessarily more than should be used) and shrink down your work space. I know that for optimal results with the DA, you should do about a 12x12 area, but I tend to fudge it a little and go bigger with most products and just work it in a little longer. Unfortunately with M105 if you do that, it will start to dry out on you, so you have to shrink down the space. I'm interested to see what some others have tried. __________________ Just Detail It

Sep 23rd, 2009, 01:44 PM	#6
Nappers Proverbs 13:9 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yreka, CA Age: 41 Posts: 3,422 Rep Power: 175	Re: #105 Drying Too Fast Good point Andrew.....With my 6" pads, I would kiss an area the pad width making four areas in a square and kiss the middle and work that in....with my 2.0's, I would do the same and thus the area larger with a bigger pad..... I'll shrink the area back down and try it again. I know the stuff works, just need to get the process dialed in as well as my test spot __________________ The light of the righteous shines brightly, but the lamp of the wicked is snuffed out.

Sep 23rd, 2009, 01:53 PM	#7
Zuke Are you in? Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Seattle Age: 23 Posts: 956 Rep Power: 18	Re: #105 Drying Too Fast Does 105 saturate the pad quicker than 205 for everyone? Or just me... __________________ "Every moment frontin and maxin Chillin in the car they spent all day waxin"

Sep 23rd, 2009, 11:31 AM	#1
rusty bumper Pray for our country Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: North Carolina Age: 52 Posts: 3,605 Rep Power: 77	#105 Drying Too Fast Found this thread on Autopia... http://www.autopia.org/forum/machine...ying-fast.html Some of the members there are having problems with #105 drying too fast. Anyone here had that problem? __________________ r. b. "In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Sep 23rd, 2009, 02:29 PM	#8
Michael Stoops Administrator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Trabuco Canyon, CA Posts: 4,900 Rep Power: 564	Re: #105 Drying Too Fast As a few of the more experienced guys in that Autopia thread have mentioned, M105 is a bit of a unique product. Across the board those who love it and get great results are not using it the way they would use one of our diminishing abrasive products like M83, M85, etc. That difference includes using a bit less product and keeping the work area nice and small. Part of M105 uniqueness is that you can often get away with a bit less product than you might think, which may account for Zuke seeing it saturate his pad fairly quickly. While the buffing cycle is nowhere near as long as M205 (which is just amazingly, incredibly long!) it should give you plenty of time to work a small area - too many people let that work area expand a bit too much. __________________ Michael Stoops Internet Technical Specialist Meguiar's Inc. (800) 854-8073 xt 175 mstoops@meguiars.com

Sep 23rd, 2009, 05:33 PM	#9
scott0999 n00b detailer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Neenah WI Posts: 125 Rep Power: 2	Re: #105 Drying Too Fast I havent noticed mine dry up. I do get a good bit of dusting though __________________

Sep 23rd, 2009, 06:42 PM	#10
Mark Kleis Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: El Cajon, CA Posts: 3,187 Rep Power: 123	Re: #105 Drying Too Fast Running out the door, and didn't have time to check that link, but generally I find M105 most pleasurable at lower speeds. I typically run it at 1,000 RPM via rotary and it reduced flashing issues. __________________ I'm here to help: keep MOL family friendly, keep everything running smoothly, keep the forum organized, and above all...to keep everyone happy. PM or e-mail me should you feel there is something I can do to help deliver any of those things. -Mark Kleis, Lumadar@gmail.com Follow me at www.MarkKleis.com or my automotive journalism at LeftLaneNews.com My ride: 2006 Ford Focus ZX3, 5 Speed, Bright Red, Roush+SVT exterior conversion, Saleen suspension/lowering kit, OZ Racing 17s, Kumho Ecsta MX tires, Borla SS Exhaust, Custom Intake, Custom fiberglass doors, Suede Interior, Color Matched Red Ford ovals, Jl 1000/1, JL 450/4, (2) DIYMA 12s, Dayton/SEAS speakers/tweeters, Alpine IVA-W200 LCD, Alpine PXA-H701, Alpine TUA-T500HD

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