How-To capture swirls, scratches, etchings and other surface defects with your camera

zeefauna · May 28th, 2006, 05:43 PM

How-To capture swirls, scratches, etchings and other surface defects with your camera

This may sound stupid.... How do you take a picture of the swirls on a car?

I tried on my black car, and i am sure there are swirls in there, but it just won't show on the photo.

I'd like to take a before and after shoot before trying the G100A.

sneek · May 28th, 2006, 05:55 PM

take the car out into the sun and set your camera into "P" i have no clue what that is but i know if you want to capture swirls you have to put it in that mode

i have a canon S50

Mike Phillips · May 28th, 2006, 07:19 PM

How-To capture swirls, scratches, etchings and other surface defects with your camera

A few tips and techniques for helping your camera to focus on the surface so you can capture the defects in the paint you're hoping to remove.

Finger Pointing Focus Technique
Besides figuring out the right camera setting for your specific camera, another quick, simple way to help your camera focus on a defect you're trying to capture with a picture is to simply place your index finger close to the defect on or hovering over the finish then carefully captures a few pictures and in most cases you'll get a couple you can use on the Internet. This works for Swirls, Scratches, Etchings, Water Spots both Type I and Type II, Stains, Oxidation, etc. Basically anything on the surface. The reason you need to give the camera something to focus on is because often times when taking shots of a large, uniform, flat surface, once any focus points are zoomed out of the picture your camera has nothing to sense and focus on.

Detailing Clay
You can also use a little piece of detailing clay because in most cases you have some detailing clay around. If the paint is clean and it should when trying to capture pictures of surface defects, then when you're done taking your pictures you should be okay to put the little piece of clay back into the large piece you took it from or just through it away. A small piece will work fine. (See picture below).

Coin
A coin can also be used if the surface is flat and horizontal like the hood. Place the coin carefully onto the paint so as not to instill a scratch. If you already have a flawless, swirl-free finish then maybe stick with the finger or clay technique. If you're getting ready to buff the car out then as long as you're careful you'll be okay; remember you're going to be buffing out the paint and likely the defect you're trying to capture with a picture.

Cobweb Swirls or Cobweb-Effect

Cobweb Swirls or Cobweb-Effect

Detailing Clay
Another way to help your camera focus on a surface defect is to place something on the surface of the paint, for example in the below picture we placed a small piece of detailing clay on the paint, then let the camera auto focus and wa-la, perfectly captured swirls, scratches and a bird dropping etching in the paint.

Random, Isolated Deeper Scratch
Scratch Removed using Ultimate Compound

An Isolated Etching
How To Remove a Bird Dropping Etching by Hand using M105 Ultra Cut Compound

zeefauna · May 28th, 2006, 11:16 PM

Yeah!!!

Got it now....

Look at the SHIIIINE to that SWIIIIIRLS!!!

My fingers almost got burnt...

It's amazing how a 3 month old car got these swirls....

Justin Murphy · May 29th, 2006, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zeefauna

It's amazing how a 3 month old car got these swirls....

Thank your dealership for washing it for you!

zeefauna · May 29th, 2006, 03:19 AM

The next time i get a new car, i will inspect the paint under the sun...

Wingsof66 · May 29th, 2006, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike Phillips
Besides figuring out the right camera setting for your specific camera, I often times place my finger on the finish as though I'm pointing to the swirls, (which I am), but the main purpose of my finger is to give the camera something to focus on so the surface, (where the swirls are), is in focus.

That was one amazing tip. I've always have problems getting the camera focused on a glossy and "swirly" surface.
Great idea to give the camera something "solid" to focus on..

Thanks.

Wingsof66 · May 29th, 2006, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zeefauna
The next time i get a new car, i will inspect the paint under the sun...

... and if the sun is not there, use a xenon light...

This is a Brinkmann Dual Xenon, portable and rechargeable.

zeefauna · May 30th, 2006, 05:11 AM

I will be getting my DA polisher soon with some other supplies.

Will post the "after" shots... if it turns out well.

zeefauna · Jun 9th, 2006, 12:52 AM

I was looking around for the Dual Xenon by Brinnkmann and came across this cheap xenon flashlight on eBay for $10 with shipping.

Tried it just now with these results...

You're right... it's swirl city down there...

May 28th, 2006, 05:43 PM	#1
zeefauna Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 86 Rep Power: 5	How-To capture swirls, scratches, etchings and other surface defects with your camera How-To capture swirls, scratches, etchings and other surface defects with your camera This may sound stupid.... How do you take a picture of the swirls on a car? I tried on my black car, and i am sure there are swirls in there, but it just won't show on the photo. I'd like to take a before and after shoot before trying the G100A.

May 28th, 2006, 07:19 PM	#3
Mike Phillips Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stuart, Florida Age: 49 Posts: 28,848 Rep Power: 550	How-To capture swirls, scratches, etchings and other surface defects with your camera A few tips and techniques for helping your camera to focus on the surface so you can capture the defects in the paint you're hoping to remove. Finger Pointing Focus Technique Besides figuring out the right camera setting for your specific camera, another quick, simple way to help your camera focus on a defect you're trying to capture with a picture is to simply place your index finger close to the defect on or hovering over the finish then carefully captures a few pictures and in most cases you'll get a couple you can use on the Internet. This works for Swirls, Scratches, Etchings, Water Spots both Type I and Type II, Stains, Oxidation, etc. Basically anything on the surface. The reason you need to give the camera something to focus on is because often times when taking shots of a large, uniform, flat surface, once any focus points are zoomed out of the picture your camera has nothing to sense and focus on. Detailing Clay You can also use a little piece of detailing clay because in most cases you have some detailing clay around. If the paint is clean and it should when trying to capture pictures of surface defects, then when you're done taking your pictures you should be okay to put the little piece of clay back into the large piece you took it from or just through it away. A small piece will work fine. (See picture below). Coin A coin can also be used if the surface is flat and horizontal like the hood. Place the coin carefully onto the paint so as not to instill a scratch. If you already have a flawless, swirl-free finish then maybe stick with the finger or clay technique. If you're getting ready to buff the car out then as long as you're careful you'll be okay; remember you're going to be buffing out the paint and likely the defect you're trying to capture with a picture. Cobweb Swirls or Cobweb-Effect Cobweb Swirls or Cobweb-Effect Cobweb Swirls or Cobweb-Effect Detailing Clay Another way to help your camera focus on a surface defect is to place something on the surface of the paint, for example in the below picture we placed a small piece of detailing clay on the paint, then let the camera auto focus and wa-la, perfectly captured swirls, scratches and a bird dropping etching in the paint. Random, Isolated Deeper Scratch Scratch Removed using Ultimate Compound An Isolated Etching How To Remove a Bird Dropping Etching by Hand using M105 Ultra Cut Compound __________________ Mike Phillips Office: 800-869-3011 x206 Mike.Phillips@Autogeek.net "Find something you like and use it often"

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zeefauna Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 86 Rep Power: 5	Yeah!!! Got it now.... Look at the SHIIIINE to that SWIIIIIRLS!!! My fingers almost got burnt... It's amazing how a 3 month old car got these swirls.... Last edited by zeefauna; May 28th, 2006 at 11:20 PM..

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sneek Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,803 Rep Power: 34	take the car out into the sun and set your camera into "P" i have no clue what that is but i know if you want to capture swirls you have to put it in that mode i have a canon S50

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