A look into Pad Priming - The Kevin Brown Method

PorscheGuy997 · Mar 24th, 2009, 02:03 PM

A look into Pad Priming - The Kevin Brown Method

Hey everyone,

I thought I would give you guys a little sample of Kevin's paper. One of the most important topics covered is pad priming. Although it may seem simple, I wanted to clear up some confusion.

When I refer to pad priming, I am referring to the liquid that will be used in polishing - not a spray detailer.

M105, M205, M86, D151, SwirlX, ScratchX 2.0, and Ultimate Compound use abrasives that are uniform and non-diminishing (SMAT). That means that they are very different than most products that use abrasives that break down. These products that use non-diminishing abrasives rely heavily on the lubricant. If there is too much lubricant, then the cut will be reduced because the abrasive is floating in lubricant. If there is too little lubricant, then the product will "flash" very quickly and you will need to reapply product.

The best way to utilize the products listed above (non-diminishing or SMAT) is to prime the pad. To do so, take the product and pour some on the pad. Then, rub it in. You are not trying to spread butter on toast! Aggressively rub the product into the pad until the entire surface is covered.

To show the method, I chose M205 and a W9207 finishing pad.

Below is an example of a poorly primed pad. As you can see, the product has completely filled in each of the pores. This will waste product and reduce the cut.

Here is what a properly primed pad should look like. The pores are not filled with product, but there is still product available in the pores.

To give you a better idea of what the pores look like, I took a macro shot of the above pad properly primed with M205.

Hope that helps!

dvtldav · Mar 24th, 2009, 03:37 PM

Chris,
Try to remember to show us that on May 9th when we are down for the Midwest get together.

Dave

3Fitty · Mar 24th, 2009, 03:38 PM

Thanks for the post Chris. Great information for anyone!

BlueZero · Mar 24th, 2009, 04:49 PM

Great info Chris! Thanks for posting it here!

What do you use to spread and rub the product in? First thought would be your hand but I'm wondering if there isn't a less messy option that works as well.

Carfire · Mar 24th, 2009, 05:04 PM

Great Pictures!!
Thanks for the Tips!!

TimG · Mar 24th, 2009, 05:10 PM

Reminds me of Oreo's biscuits. Lol

Thanks for the share dude!

Nick Chapman · Mar 24th, 2009, 05:33 PM

This really does work guys. Been doing it this way for a while now(ever since Lord Brown showed me

).

3Fitty · Mar 25th, 2009, 04:26 AM

Gents,

I would imagine you would try to work it in the same way with the CCS foam pads?

Even in the little divets?

J. A. Michaels · Mar 25th, 2009, 06:10 AM

Chris,
Thanks for taking the time to do this. I know it will help myself and others. Thanks again.

PorscheGuy997 · Mar 25th, 2009, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3Fitty

Gents,

I would imagine you would try to work it in the same way with the CCS foam pads? Even in the little divets?

There really shouldn't be any problem with priming a CCS pad. It will be a little more difficult to do, but I can't see anything going wrong.

Mar 24th, 2009, 02:03 PM	#1
PorscheGuy997 Person Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Southern Indiana Age: 21 Posts: 1,379 Rep Power: 24	A look into Pad Priming - The Kevin Brown Method A look into Pad Priming - The Kevin Brown Method Hey everyone, I thought I would give you guys a little sample of Kevin's paper. One of the most important topics covered is pad priming. Although it may seem simple, I wanted to clear up some confusion. When I refer to pad priming, I am referring to the liquid that will be used in polishing - not a spray detailer. M105, M205, M86, D151, SwirlX, ScratchX 2.0, and Ultimate Compound use abrasives that are uniform and non-diminishing (SMAT). That means that they are very different than most products that use abrasives that break down. These products that use non-diminishing abrasives rely heavily on the lubricant. If there is too much lubricant, then the cut will be reduced because the abrasive is floating in lubricant. If there is too little lubricant, then the product will "flash" very quickly and you will need to reapply product. The best way to utilize the products listed above (non-diminishing or SMAT) is to prime the pad. To do so, take the product and pour some on the pad. Then, rub it in. You are not trying to spread butter on toast! Aggressively rub the product into the pad until the entire surface is covered. To show the method, I chose M205 and a W9207 finishing pad. Below is an example of a poorly primed pad. As you can see, the product has completely filled in each of the pores. This will waste product and reduce the cut. Here is what a properly primed pad should look like. The pores are not filled with product, but there is still product available in the pores. To give you a better idea of what the pores look like, I took a macro shot of the above pad properly primed with M205. Hope that helps! __________________ Chris Dasher Detailing Services

Mar 24th, 2009, 03:37 PM	#2
dvtldav Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NE Indiana Age: 62 Posts: 531 Rep Power: 9	Re: A look into Pad Priming Chris, Try to remember to show us that on May 9th when we are down for the Midwest get together. Dave __________________ You repair things with tools. You fix things with a hammer.

Mar 24th, 2009, 03:38 PM	#3
3Fitty They call me fitty Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,408 Rep Power: 21	Re: A look into Pad Priming Thanks for the post Chris. Great information for anyone! __________________ ---------------------------------- 3Fitty - Now recommending products I have never used.

Mar 24th, 2009, 04:49 PM	#4
BlueZero Avatar Czar Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 3,049 Rep Power: 37	Re: A look into Pad Priming Great info Chris! Thanks for posting it here! What do you use to spread and rub the product in? First thought would be your hand but I'm wondering if there isn't a less messy option that works as well. __________________ Scott

Mar 24th, 2009, 05:04 PM	#5
Carfire Fire Dept. Detailer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ozaukee County ,Wisconsin Age: 18 Posts: 2,800 Rep Power: 32	Re: A look into Pad Priming Great Pictures!! Thanks for the Tips!! __________________ Joel Rejuvenation Auto Detailing "Satisfaction Guaranteed or Your Dirt Back!!!" '99 F-150 '02 Town and Country

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TimG Learning True Art of Detailing Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Borneo - Mount Kinabalu Posts: 1,726 Rep Power: 36	Re: A look into Pad Priming Reminds me of Oreo's biscuits. Lol Thanks for the share dude! __________________ Learning new things everyday

Mar 24th, 2009, 05:33 PM	#7
Nick Chapman Formerly "n737nc" Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 39 Posts: 2,438 Rep Power: 293	Re: A look into Pad Priming This really does work guys. Been doing it this way for a while now(ever since Lord Brown showed me ). __________________ 2008 Meguiar's Batmobile Team 2008 Meguiar's/Ford SEMA Team 2009 Meguiar's/Ford SEMA Team

Mar 25th, 2009, 04:26 AM	#8
3Fitty They call me fitty Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,408 Rep Power: 21	Re: A look into Pad Priming Gents, I would imagine you would try to work it in the same way with the CCS foam pads? Even in the little divets? __________________ ---------------------------------- 3Fitty - Now recommending products I have never used.

Mar 25th, 2009, 06:10 AM	#9
J. A. Michaels aka: 23jam Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 13,149 Rep Power: 509	Re: A look into Pad Priming Chris, Thanks for taking the time to do this. I know it will help myself and others. Thanks again. __________________ quality creates its own demand

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