Quik question on 83 and 80.

[kellyinkc]

Are there any pic's of what they look like after they are broken down by the DA? Not sure if I am running the DA long enough. I ran it until what it looked like vasolene then removed. Is that long enough? Got car in sun, oooooo lots of swirls and or spider webs. Hood looks good though!! Looks like I have a lot of work ahead. Thanks!

[Tim Lingor]

Hi Kelly,

You need to work the product until it is a very light residue. You need to stop right before the point where it breaks down and disappears. Do not buff dry. This will come with more experience as you will need to see how long that actually takes. A few years ago, I was asked that very question, went outside and used the PC/#83/W-8006 pad and it took a good 3 minutes for a 2'x2' area. Now with your temperatures or humidity, that amount of time may very.

The weather here will not co-operate. Every time I plan a detail on the weekend, it rains or snows! But if the weather breaks on Sunday, I will see if I can snap a picture or two of what it should look like.

Tim

[kellyinkc]

Thanks Tim!!
BIG learning curve here. Trail and error. Some vibration in hands but arm is thankful! Weather never cooperates does it. Been in the 60's here, about 30 degrees above normal the past few weeks. Of course today when I wanted to play with the DA it was in the 30's! Snow chance Sunday. Have a good evening.

Kelly

[Totoland Mach]

Originally posted by kellyinkc
Thanks Tim!!
BIG learning curve here. Trail and error. Some vibration in hands but arm is thankful! Weather never cooperates does it. Been in the 60's here, about 30 degrees above normal the past few weeks. Of course today when I wanted to play with the DA it was in the 30's! Snow chance Sunday. Have a good evening.

Kelly

Hiya Kelly: I'm right across the state line from you and you're right about the weather! I thought I'd have a decent weekend to work on the wife's car...but it's a little chilly for anything other than a quick detailer.

I typically use #83 and a #8006 pad and work an area until the 83 starts to release powder. My understanding is that is the diminishing abrasive of 83. I'm usually left with a light haze to wipe off with an mf towel. Then I check my work and continue if there is still swirls left. I've done quite a few black cars (Porsche's x 2, Jimmy Blazer, etc...my pics are in the gallery if you want to see the work).

I haven't tried 80 as I have tons of 83 (over 1/5 gallon left) and other Meg's products. I usually go from 83 to M21 Sealant.

Totoland Mach

[Tim Lingor]

Originally posted by Totoland Mach
Hiya Kelly: I'm right across the state line from you and you're right about the weather! I thought I'd have a decent weekend to work on the wife's car...but it's a little chilly for anything other than a quick detailer.

I typically use #83 and a #8006 pad and work an area until the 83 starts to release powder. My understanding is that is the diminishing abrasive of 83. I'm usually left with a light haze to wipe off with an mf towel. Then I check my work and continue if there is still swirls left. I've done quite a few black cars (Porsche's x 2, Jimmy Blazer, etc...my pics are in the gallery if you want to see the work).

I haven't tried 80 as I have tons of 83 (over 1/5 gallon left) and other Meg's products. I usually go from 83 to M21 Sealant.

Totoland Mach

Hey,

Here is someting to try. Next time you are doing a black vehicle, try using #82 Swirl Free Polish after the #83. I know you will like the look! It does make a difference!

Tim

[kellyinkc]

OK!! All I do is black and white! Yin- Yang. Temps are sub freezing right now so I won't be trying out the DA. Did ya find that suede purse?

[RockyTop]

The weather here will not co-operate. Every time I plan a detail on the weekend, it rains or snows! But if the weather breaks on Sunday, I will see if I can snap a picture or two of what it should look like.

I hope you are able to take a picture of this process. I am curious to see if I am working #80 long enough. I'm pretty sure I am but I would like to be sure.

[Magic]

I typically use #83 and a #8006 pad and work an area until the 83 starts to release powder. My understanding is that is the diminishing abrasive of 83. I'm usually left with a light haze to wipe off with an mf towel

I'm in the same boat. I don't fully know when to stop. But I did notice when I let it buff intill it's starts to release powder, that section comes out better, that when I stop before the powder. Don't know it that's the right way, and experimenting on someone else's car is not something I want any part of right now!

[kellyinkc]

Thinking back to Sat. I could still swipe my finger through the polish when I thought I was done. I could not see black paint just
"haze". Guessing I need to run the DA longer. practice makes perfect!!

[PhantomR/T]

what exactly is DA again?

[Pete-FWA]

DA=Dual Action

The PC (Porter Cable/Meguiar's G100A) is a machine that runs in a dual action mode. It is a DA.

[kellyinkc]

DA= Dual Action
The pad rotates and orbits at the same time. HTH.

Kelly

[RockyTop]

2hotford,
Any luck with some pictures?

Thanks

[Tim Lingor]

Originally posted by RockyTop
2hotford,
Any luck with some pictures?

Thanks

Sorry, but no. The weather just will not co-operate long enough for me to do a complete detail. As soon as the weather changes enough, I will definitey take some pictures and post them to this thread!

Tim

[kellyinkc]

Thanks Tim! We are on a roller coaster here. 17 degrees this morning 60 this afternoon. Then back down, way down by the weekend. Did fender with DA yesterday. Ran DA until just a dry buff. Incedible difference!! have comparison pic of door and fender WOW! Wife even noticed.

Kelly