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    Just a quick question. I was at work yesterday (fire station) and a guy came in to work overtime at 7 pm. We had a little down time so I was just finishing up waxing a guy's truck at the station. The overtime guy came over to me and said he heard I started detaling cars on my days off from the station and could I look at his car. He had a white 2005 Chevy Monte Carlo SS that was covered with rust/brown colored spots. He stated that his wife had parked it under a poplar tree and this was the result.

    I only had a limited amount of detailing supplies with me, QD spray, several MF towels, G100, 83,80, 21 and the 7006/8006/9006 pads. He said he had tried everything and coudn't get hardly any of it off. I sprayed QD, let it sit for a little bit, and wiped with MF, very little effect. I reapplied, wiped, not much change. We tried regular car wash soap and brush, nothing.

    Anyone have any suggestions on what I can recommend. He said he would get me to remove it if I could find out what product to use. I have SCratch X, but the sap spots cover the car from front hood all the way to trunk and Scratch X would be a beast on the large of an area by hand. I have APC as well, could I try that? I know if I use it, I'll have to rewax, but that isn't a problem because theres none on it to begin with. I believe that's why the sap is sticking the way it is.

    I did not have my camera at work so I was not able to get any pics. I know this thread is worthless without pics. I'm just looking for a general idea on how to rid sap. This sap is not like a pine sap where it is thick, hard, and sticky. This poplar was a burnt brown color and was spotty (like freckles) on his white car. It wasn't sticky to the touch, it just had to be rubbed very hard toi get just a little bit of it to come off.

    Believe it or not, he told me the car got parked near this tree about a month ago and got this sap all over the trunk. The way he got it off that time was he took the middle insert piece from a red "floor buffing" pad and scrubbed his trunk to get the sap off. Needless to say his trunk paint is all jacked up. I told him I would do what I could with my PC, 83, 80 and 21.

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    APC in spots could be a good start to loosen therm up. But clay might be the best thing to try.
    2017 Subaru WRX Premium - WR Blue

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    • #3
      yea, I meant to say clay in my post but left it out on accident. Clay is what I told him I would probably have to use, I just didn't have it with me last night. He wasn't familiar with the use of clay at all so I had to explain how it was used and how it worked.

      Thanks MURR, I know I can always count on you to come through w/ some good input.

      I'll probably try the clay and bring the APC JIK....

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      • #4
        I would try bug and tar remover. Here are some other Google suggestions:

        A light duty buffing compound works to soften the sappy area. Try this first and then use one of the methods below to remove sap completely.
        Try rubbing the offending area with WD-40. Spray some on the sap, let it sit for a while and wipe off with a cloth diaper, which will help to eliminate lint. Repeat if necessary.
        Apply nail polish remover with a cotton ball or swab and rub gently until the sap is removed.
        Buff lard onto the area with sap and wipe with a lint free cloth, such as a cloth diaper or terrycloth towel.
        Avon's Skin So Soft bath oil is also said to be an effective sap removal agent. Rub it onto the sticky area and wipe clean with a cloth.
        Try dabbing the area with a cotton ball moistened with rubbing alcohol.
        Remove sap from your automobile by applying bacon grease and wiping clean.
        Make a paste of baking soda and water and use to clean your car. Wipe clean with a damp cloth.
        Mineral spirits mixed with denatured alcohol will remove sap without ruining your auto's paint job.
        It may sound funny, but polishing your car with mayonnaise will also remove sap.

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        • #5
          I do recall having heard people use alcohol or WD-40. I would think you might have some WD-40 laying around there to try on a small spot.
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          • #6
            I use the Meguiar's D120 Detailer® Glass Cleaner. The NXT Glass Cleaner is similar, but you can't get it in a concentrated form.

            The alcohol/solvent combo will even remove super-stubborn, hardened tree sap.

            If you've got one, use a microfiber cloth (its mechanical-action really aids in sap removal versus a terry-towel).

            On a cool surface, soak a section of the towel with glass cleaner (full strength), and rub back and forth over the tree sap. If you want, you can mist some of the glass cleaner directly on the surface.

            It may take 20 or 30 seconds, but the tree sap will definitely dissolve. If you're removing sap from paint, you'll have to apply a paint conditioner/wax upon removal of the sap, as the glass cleaner will strip the surface.

            It really works. I'm guessing that Isopropyl Alcohol will deliver similar results, as this is one of the main ingredients in the Detailer/NXT Glass Cleaner.
            Kevin Brown
            NXTti Instructor, Meguiar's/Ford SEMA Team, Meguiar's Distributor/Retailer

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            • #7
              thanks for all the suggestions guys

              Monk, good to hear from ya! How are things going...haven't seen ya on here in a while. Hope all is well w/ you. Those were some pretty interesting ways to get rid of tree sap, I must say. I can't decide which one to try first!!!! I believe the guy with this issue tried the baking soda thing and it didn't work but I'm going to pass all these suggestions everyone has posted and let him decide which one he wants me to try. I'll probably try the alcohol and WD40 aps first.

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              • #8
                Hey Bro...

                I would first wash the car using Gold Class shampoo in warm water, then claying the car while it is still soapy and wet. The warm water might help loosen the grip of the sap while claying will remove the surface contaminants.

                A chemical such as Dupont Prep Sol will also dissolve the sap so it can be removed.
                Meguiar's Fire/Rescue/EMS, member of the Church of the Highly Reflective Finish!
                Waxworks Automotive Detailing

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                • #9
                  you a FireFighter GONZO? I'm part of the Mobile Fire REscue Dept in MObile Alabam. WE are on the Gulf Coast of Alabama.

                  Thanks for the tip.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LAfirefytr
                    you a FireFighter GONZO? I'm part of the Mobile Fire REscue Dept in MObile Alabam. WE are on the Gulf Coast of Alabama.

                    Thanks for the tip.
                    I met LAfirefytr at the Tampa Meg's Roadshow and had a laugh over people thinking the "LA" stood for "Los Angeles", when in fact is tand for "Lower Alabama"!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LAfirefytr
                      you a FireFighter GONZO? I'm part of the Mobile Fire REscue Dept in MObile Alabam. WE are on the Gulf Coast of Alabama.

                      Thanks for the tip.
                      Yes I am! Captain on Marlborough Engine 1, Group 1. We are a career department, 4 groups, 75 personnel running 3 engines, 2 ladders and a rescue out of 3 stations.

                      Marlborough is 26 miles west of Boston, 15 miles east of Worcester.

                      There are quite a few firefighters on this forum!

                      PS: Leather forever!
                      Meguiar's Fire/Rescue/EMS, member of the Church of the Highly Reflective Finish!
                      Waxworks Automotive Detailing

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                      • #12
                        SWEET! I'm a private and Firefighter/EMT. I'm carrer as well. We have close to 500 staff, 20 Engine Companies, 5 Ladder Companies, and 8 ALS Rescue units. I love what I do.......I'm at the busiest station in the city so it stays crazy around our house. There's always something going on or stirred up. Good to meet you on here.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LAfirefytr
                          SWEET! I'm a private and Firefighter/EMT. I'm carrer as well. We have close to 500 staff, 20 Engine Companies, 5 Ladder Companies, and 8 ALS Rescue units. I love what I do.......I'm at the busiest station in the city so it stays crazy around our house. There's always something going on or stirred up. Good to meet you on here.
                          Yeah, yeah, yeah but WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE SAP!!

                          I'll bet that tree is not so "poplar" anymore!
                          Last edited by Monk; Jun 14, 2006, 05:39 PM.

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                          • #14
                            hey everyone,

                            You can also try rain-x. The solvents in it readily break down and loosen even the hardest dried up tree sap. Saturate a small terry towel or micro fiber and place over the sap spot let sit for an amount of time ( dependant on fresh or dried up sap) then lift the towel and wipe the area.


                            Andrew
                            2013 Race Red F-150 SCREW

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                            • #15
                              I passed on the information everyone on here gave me to the guy that had the sap problem. He works at a different fire station and different shift than I do, so I haven't seen him in a few days. The night I saw him and the sap issue, he came to my station to work overtime. I will be back on shift tomorrow and will e-mail him on our intranet at work. He may have already tried some of the tips you all gave me or he might still want me to do it. I've just been tied up with few health issues the last several days and have been out of pocket.

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