Waxing more times gives more deep shine?

[WestDK]

1)I just gotta know..
if i wax once and rub over it to polish (with clean fx. Supreme Shine Microfiber).. If I do this one more time over the layer I've just waxed, will that give a deeper shine effect?
Like the one layer of waxing gives a little shine, but giving it one more layer will gives two layers of shine?

2) If I've waxed my car and I wanna polish it with a polishing machine..
if I polish it a little or very much, will it give any difference?
I mean polishing 5 min. or 20 min. will that give any big difference?

3) If I can give more shine effect by giving a two layer waxing (yes to question 1), will it give any difference if I polish with a polishing machine one the first layer for ex. 20 min. and then apply the second layer and polish..?
Will it give more shine effect than one layer wax, polish for 5 min, 2 layer wax and polish?

[BlueZero]

Re: Waxing more times gives more deep shine?

Hi WestDK! Welcome to MOL!

This link should help you with your layering questions...

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2167

[WestDK]

Re: Waxing more times gives more deep shine?

Thanks but it still doesn't cver all my answers..
but I now know the answer to
1) = YES! It will give greater protection and shine but only to a certain point!

But anybody out there who have an answer to 2) or 3)?

By 3) I mean that if fx. i polish the first layer of wax and that makes it shine more than 5 min.. Would the second layer of wax enhance the shining effect I've gained by polishing longer..?
if it makes any sence..

[Murr1525]

Re: Waxing more times gives more deep shine?

Well, lets see.. I think you might be kind of confusing some of the terms, and perhaps translations, so hopefully we can get you cleared up.

So see if this order of things makes sense:

1. Wash - pretty obvious

2. Clay - Again, fairly obvious, just claying the paint.

3. Cleaning - Here, you would apply a cleaning product, either by hand or machine, to remove dirt and swirls, and then you would buff off the excess product with a Supreme Shine towel.

4. Polishing - Here, you would apply a polish, either by hand or machine, to help add gloss and wetness to the paint, and then buff off with a SS towel.

5. Waxing - Here, you would apply a coat of wax, by hand or machine, then let it sit until it has hazed. Then, you could remove the wax by hand or machine. As the thread said, it is then good to wait about 20 minutes, then apply a second coat of wax in the same manner. If you have a good machine, applying and removing wax with it can add more gloss.

However, I have no idea what you mean by 'polishing for 5 min or 20 minutes'? But I hope the above order will help out with the terminology....

[noswirler]

Re: Waxing more times gives more deep shine?

yes, the deeper you polish(longer) the better the shine

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Waxing more times gives more deep shine?

yes, the deeper you polish(longer) the better the shine

Within limits I think. You will need to polish longer and maybe with a more aggressive polish to remove the worst marring, or to restore badly oxidized paint, but once you've gotten the marring out I don't think you'll see much of an improvement if you then continue to polish for another 20 minutes. Yes, if you needed to use an aggressive polish to remove bad defects you will most likely need to follow that with a finer finishing product (like following M83 with M80) but I think once you've done that (removed the defects) you're basically done with polishing and ready to wax.

[Murr1525]

Re: Waxing more times gives more deep shine?

If you polish for 20 minutes, you'll end up dry buffing and put swirls back into the paint.

[STG]

Re: Waxing more times gives more deep shine?

1)I just gotta know..
if i wax once and rub over it to polish (with clean fx. Supreme Shine Microfiber).. If I do this one more time over the layer I've just waxed, will that give a deeper shine effect?
Like the one layer of waxing gives a little shine, but giving it one more layer will gives two layers of shine?

2) If I've waxed my car and I wanna polish it with a polishing machine..
if I polish it a little or very much, will it give any difference?
I mean polishing 5 min. or 20 min. will that give any big difference?

3) If I can give more shine effect by giving a two layer waxing (yes to question 1), will it give any difference if I polish with a polishing machine one the first layer for ex. 20 min. and then apply the second layer and polish..?
Will it give more shine effect than one layer wax, polish for 5 min, 2 layer wax and polish?

Read CAREFULLY, he's asking if polishing the surface AFTER waxing is beneficial. He's not talking about spending extra minutes working #83 into the paint. He's talking about rubbing the surface AFTER WAXING, not polishing as most here use the term..

The answer is no. After removing the wax, you're done. You can put on another coat of wax to ensure coverage and wipe it off, but rubbing a micro-fiber over the waxed paint for five minutes doesn't help.

He can make his paint shinier by spending the appropriate amount of time fixing defects (scratches, swirls, etc.) and smoothing out the surface wafter washing and claying with #83, #80, etc., but he SHOULDN'T rub a micro fiber or polishing pad on a PC for minutes over waxed paint.

[Murr1525]

Re: Waxing more times gives more deep shine?

Well, now in that case, for a car show, one could put a pure polish like #7 on top of the wax. Some people like the look of that, but I do not know if it removes some of the wax underneath.

[STG]

Re: Waxing more times gives more deep shine?

He needs to get the basics straight. You're getting a little esoteric.

[Murr1525]

Re: Waxing more times gives more deep shine?

Well, it sounds like WestDK might be interested in a car show... who knows.

[WestDK]

Re: Waxing more times gives more deep shine?

Yes i would like to get that car show shine effect.. I take pride in my car looking as shiny as possible when people are driving by..
And believe me I'm really taking care of my baby - a VW Polo 4 (6N) from 97.. I wash it a minimum of every two weeks but often more.. And i also polish the wax with a polishing machine to get that shine very often because I live on a dirt road so when my nabour drives by all the dust comes over my car
And then i go out and wash it, gives it wax and polishes it to get it all shiny again so I can stand and admire it and people can admire it when they come by..
I've spent my whole summer cleaning it up and making her pretty.. The previous owner have never since she have bought it given it wax or anykind of protection.. When there was somethung wrong it was sent to a mekanic but never done anything to keep the paint.. It didnt look that bad but I must say it helped the work I've done.. I've cleaned vinyl, cleaned the engine room, cleaned the interior and instument board.. Cleaned the tires, and given her a real makeover.. Her paint wasn't so faded but with a little work i got her to a better color then before and gave her a protecting layer and then waxed her over and over again.. And also done some scratch removing and tried to correct some paint faults.. She's fine now but the only thing I'm missing is for her to really really shine like a brand new car..
You know where you look at it and it blinds you because of the reflection.. That effect is what I'm looking for.. I've waxed her and polished the wax to get a cleaner surface and a more shiny look and it worked.. But not as much as I was hoping for.. I want that new car/show room/show car effect back to my green beauty


I want her to sparkle and shine like a diamond and like "my precius"

[STG]

Re: Waxing more times gives more deep shine?

Yes i would like to get that car show shine effect.... And i also polish the wax with a polishing machine to get that shine very often......

And then i go out and wash it, gives it wax and polishes it to get it all shiny again.......... I've waxed her and polished the wax to get a cleaner surface and a more shiny look......


I want her to sparkle and shine like a diamond and like "my precius"

I'd like to clearly understand exactly what you are doing.

My understanding is that you:

1. Wash your car.

2. Apply wax.

3. Remove wax after it dries.

4. Use a "polishing machine" on the paint AFTER removing the dried wax.

5. Apply another coat of wax.

6. Remove wax after it dries.

7. Use a "polishing machine" on the paint AFTER removing the dried wax.

8. Repeat steps 5, 6, and 7 in an effort to increase the shine.


If I got that right, I think there may be a slight communication problem here.

Typically, obtaining a clear, deep shine involves the following steps.

1. Wash.

2. Use clay to remove contaminents on paint.

3. Use a cleaner-polish like Meguiar's #83, #80, or #82 (different levels of abrasives) to remove surface defects like swirls and scratches. (Use an orbital buffer.)

4. Apply a sealant like Meguiar's #21, Nxt High Tech Wax, or a wax like Meguiar's Gold Class Wax.

5. Let sealer or wax dry and remove with micro fiber cloth or bonnet on orbital buffer. THIS STEP DOES NOT INVOLVE "POLISHING" THE SEALANT OR WAX. You are just removing the dried wax or sealant, NOT BUFFING IT.

6. Apply second coat of wax or sealant to make sure you get complete coverage. Remove when dry. Again, you are not "polishing" or buffing the wax/sealant. You are just genly removing the dried product.


If you "polish" wax with a "polishing machine" you are just rubbing the wax off the paint.

To make your paint shinier, you need to remove surface defects like swirls and scratches. To do this, you must use a product with abrasives in it to level the paint surface.

When removing defects, you may be able to obtain a better paint surface by moving from more abravise to less abrasive products. For example: #83, then #80, then #82. (Much like using sand paper on wood, you start with a rough paper and move to finer and finer papers to obtain a smooth finish.)

You can then apply multiple coats of wax, but the increased shine will be small. The shine comes mostly from surface preperation. Wax protects the finish. And, you should not "polish" the wax, just gently remove the dried wax between coats. "Polishing" the wax will only remove it and increase the chance of putting swirls or scratches back into the paint.


After waxing, you can apply #7 Showcar Glaze on top of the wax to increase the shine, but this product is not long-lasting as it is intended to maximize shine for car shows etc.

[WestDK]

Re: Waxing more times gives more deep shine?

STG:

Thankyou!! I must have misunderstood the thing with the polishing machine because I truly believed "polishing" would give a greater shine.. Just like polishing silver.. The more you rub the more it shines..

After waxing, you can apply #7 Showcar Glaze on top of the wax to increase the shine, but this product is not long-lasting as it is intended to maximize shine for car shows etc.

From STG

I'm sorry but all the names in here I'm not familiar with.. Whats the "real" name of the product? Is it called Showcar Glaze or what?

Yeasterday I did the following:
1. I washed the car.
2. Used Deep Crystal Polish to polish the paint and get a nice shine
3. Applied Gold Glass Liquid Car Wax to give shine
4. Deep Crystal Carnauba Wax to give protection and shine

And i can't really see much difference when standing on the side.. I can see a little at a distance but perhaps in my head because I know I did one side..
But.. When I'm sitting in the car and looks in the side mirrors.. The left side I haven't done and the right I have..
When I look at the lfet and the right I really CAN see a difference..
The green is much more powerful and rich and shiny on the right side but when I get out of the car I can't see it anymore..
Isn't that weird?

[STG]

Re: Waxing more times gives more deep shine?

Hey, it looks like I was the only person who actually read and understood WestDK's posts/questions. Quick! Somebody wake Barry up and tell him I'm available to take over European marketing to increase sales by a minimum of 600%.

West DK,

You need to read the how-to sections of this website. Surface cleaning and preparation are the key to a show car shine. http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2409

Washing your car will not get it completely clean. You must use clay.

Cleaner/polishes like #83/#80/#82 applied with the correct pads using an orbital buffer will remove surface defects like scratches and swirls.

Wax does not remove surface contaminents or defects.

READ THE INFORMATION IN THE LINK ABOVE.

Go to Meguiars.com for product information.