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    #7 Show Car Glaze.........??

    I'm working on a Lapis Blue Porsche Boxster S. My father is stilling it to time to get the swirl marks out.

    Pics for the ad:
    www.erik27.com/986s
    These pictures were taken last fall

    Long story short, using #80 with the G110 on 95% of the car with ScratchX and 105 by hand where the DA would not go. Car looks great, I was able to achieve the results I was expecting.

    On to the polish stage I swapped pads and grabbed #7. I started with a small corner of the hood. To put it bluntly I'm not seeing any difference between the spot I polished & the "before" side. I went at it a few times with various amounts / speeds / pressure on the D/A, no change.

    The paint looks very deep and rich already so I'm thinking of just skiping #7 and going straight to the final stage.

    Your thoughts?

    Maybe I should try ColorX?
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    Re: #7 Show Car Glaze.........??

    If you already hit the vehicle with #80 you should be good to move on to the waxing stage. #80 has alot of polishing oils in it and it always does a great job for me on the polishing step as well as cleaning the paint and removing swirls so there would be no need to follow with ColorX either. Just to ask, did you inspect the paint to see if it needed to be clayed first?
    ""Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing - the result." - Vince Lombardi
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      Re: #7 Show Car Glaze.........??

      Originally posted by Derrick View Post
      If you already hit the vehicle with #80 you should be good to move on to the waxing stage. #80 has alot of polishing oils in it and it always does a great job for me on the polishing step as well as cleaning the paint and removing swirls so there would be no need to follow with ColorX either. Just to ask, did you inspect the paint to see if it needed to be clayed first?
      I clayed it using the blue / medium clay & a 50/50 mix of Last Touch. It needed it!!

      This is good news then, saves me a step since I'm a bit behind on pojects.

      I'm still new to 80,82, and 83.....

      Next up is the Cobra in my avatar. The paint is almost virgin but some very minor swirls in the clear. So I'll be taking it very easy, starting with Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner.

      Thanks!!


      EDIT - oh yea, one last thing....
      The front bumper cover could really use a re-spray (stone chips) so it seamed like a good panel to "practice" on. After using 105 in a few areas by hand I decided, what the hell and grabbed a new 8006 pad.

      It didn't do any better or worse than 80 except it pelted out a boat load of dust.

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        Re: #7 Show Car Glaze.........??

        We always consider a pure polish, like M07, to be an optional step. Having said that, when working on a pretty new vehicle with a modern clear coat finish that's already in very good shape, the odds of that "option" yielding any appreciable improvement will drop off.

        Other options do exist and we know people who love using M81 Hand Polish on clear coat finishes for a little extra "glow", or applying M03 Machine Glaze with a W9006 Finishing Pad via rotary. We've seen both of these used with great success, and last year at SEMA when we had to hand prep a group of vehicles for an off-site special event we chose M81.

        M07 seems to get all the talk around here and it is sort of the grand daddy of our pure polishes, but these other products shouldn't be overlooked.

        Having said that, would either of them have imparted a more noticeable change to this Boxster than M07? Hard to say, but if you can get your hands on some it's always nice to experiment and experience new products/processes.
        Michael Stoops
        Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

        Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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          Re: #7 Show Car Glaze.........??

          I maybe because of the car and clear coat.
          I've used #7 many times and in the right position and with the right amount of light you can see a significant difference no matter if you use #80 or any other rich in oils cleaner polish.

          I've ordered #81 Hand Polish because I've heard Michael Stoops write about that this pure polish is better or it's been formulated for modern clear coats.

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            Re: #7 Show Car Glaze.........??

            Originally posted by hacker-pschorr View Post

            On to the polish stage I swapped pads and grabbed #7. I started with a small corner of the hood.

            To put it bluntly I'm not seeing any difference between the spot I polished & the "before" side.
            Kind of just goes to show you how great the other products work when they leave a finish as clear and glossy as #7


            Originally posted by hacker-pschorr View Post

            Maybe I should try ColorX?
            That would be working backwards in the polishing process.

            You've likely hit the wall, or hit a plateau, that is you have polished the clear coat as clear as it can get, (100% clear), and removed most/all of the defects or filled in or masked any microscopic ones and now it's time to move on to the waxing step.

            Good job.

            Mike Phillips
            760-515-0444
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              Re: #7 Show Car Glaze.........??

              Originally posted by Mike Phillips View Post
              Kind of just goes to show you how great the other products work when they leave a finish as clear and glossy as #7
              I agree 100% - I really took my time over three days with this car & #80. Goes to show (like you always say) every car is different. #80 didn't put a dent in my 928 (used 83 on every panel so far, still not done). #80 is just what this Boxster needed.

              So now I can drive it to Elkhart Lake for the spring vintage weekend...in the rain.

              Originally posted by Mike Phillips View Post
              That would be working backwards in the polishing process.
              Good to know since I'll be using #80 or #82 on pretty much every car.
              Originally posted by Mike Phillips View Post
              You've likely hit the wall, or hit a plateau, that is you have polished the clear coat as clear as it can get, (100% clear), and removed most/all of the defects or filled in or masked any microscopic ones and now it's time to move on to the waxing step.
              In a recent thread you posted cleaning up bird dropping on a black Dodge Viper. The "pits" you showed in the close-up after shot is what the hood of this car looks like. Since I've only seen the cleaned up paint in my garage under the halogen lights. I'm hoping out in the sun the pits are not as noticable as they are under the intense light.

              95% of the swirls are gone - that was my goal so mission accomplished! There is no way I could have done this by hand (I tired just for the hell of it using ScratchX, 150, and whatever else I had in the garage).

              I'll try to post some pics tonight if the weather plays nice.

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                Re: #7 Show Car Glaze.........??

                Well, I just finished using the #7 polish on my sister's 2002 Saturn SC2 (Black) and was very impressed with the results. I was also in the same boat as you are. At first I wasn't sure whether it was necessary to use the polish or whether I should skip and go to the wax. The folks here on the board convinced me that it was worth doing. I'm glad I did!.

                I first went over the car with a clay bar. Then I used scratchX on the roof to get rid of some bad scratches. It was my first time using this product and I managed to get rid of 95% of the bad scratches. Some were too deep to remove. I then went over the car with the #7 Polish followed by the NXT wax. Aside from the stone chips, the car looked fantastic. Even after it rained, the car still looked good.


                I'm planning to use the #7 Polish on my 05 Mustang (Legend Lime) this weekend if the weather is decent.

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