Hazing with NXT Wax

[ClassicConcepts]

I had a question that I added to the Clay Bar removal of Hazing and thought it would be better to make this a new thread since it seems to be going a different route.
It started off as this:
I have a hazing showing up on a black surface wherever I put NXT Tech Wax on and after the car has been in the sun, I can see where I put the wax and the pattern I used to apply it. Almost like I didn't remove it. I'm letting the car cool so I can go back out and see what I can do with it. It is hard to see, and only under the right light.

I cleaned the car real good, waxed it, let it dry, then buffed. Did this again last night and the car looked great. Took it out today and by the time I got home it looks the same. I'm using very little wax, buffing it off after completely dry. Just for kicks I took a temp reading on it and my hood is at 161 degrees (black hood in the desert with sun on it) and the wax "smears" when I touch it. It acts like I have too much on it but I put it on almost dry. Maybe I should go back to using the #26 wax?

The next step was I let it cool in the shop and took some detailer to it (couldn't see the hazing when cool). After going over the hood I backed it out into the sun and it looked great till it heated up and the hazing was back only the pattern had changed like I was just pushing it around. I have very little wax on this so I don't think it is over waxed. It just doesn't seem to like temps over 150 degrees.

I put the car back in the shop and let it cool off, used #9 to clean a section of the hood and rewaxed with #26. Put the car back in the sun and let it heat up. No hazing with the #26 at 150 degrees while the NXT wax started hazing again at about 140 and bad at 150 degrees.

It looks like the problem is definitely with the wax. I think??? I don't know. When I use #26 it goes away so what else could it be? When I put on the NXT Wax It was so thin I could hardly see the haze when it dried so I still don't think it's on too heavy. When it does haze and you touch it, it looks like an oil slick the way it diffuses the light.

[Ken_Allen]

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I also have this problem. There's streaking after removing NXT. I put it on the hood I'm working on, on a cloudy day after it had been sprayed for a long time with cold water. I'm sure the surface wasn't too hot and probably room temperature.

[Larry A]

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I did 3 cars with NXT 2 and I had streaking problems with 2 of them. The 3rd car was fine. I though that since the NXT 2 was bought at Christmas that maybe the bottle was delivered frozen .

[Patman]

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I get this a little bit as well with NXT 2.0, but it's mostly noticeable under cloudy conditions in my case. It goes away after a couple of days and a few applications of UQD though, so it's not too bothersome.

I figure it's most likely showing up in areas of the finish where I put it on a bit thicker than I should. I try to keep my coats rather thin most of the time, but sometimes when I'm in a rush I'm not as careful.

[ClassicConcepts]

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This happens only when it gets hot, I don't think it's related to humidity since we have been running less than 10% humidity during the heat of the day. I took the car down to Anahiem tonight and as we hit cooler temps (was only 100 down there) and a few clouds, it couldn't be seen. I've had the NXT wax on the car for about 3 weeks, and went east on the Hot Rod Power Tour. I didn't see this through clear skies, rain, cloudy skies, etc. till we were heading back and dropped down into the heat in Utah and on to Vegas. I've had it every day since we've been back in hot weather (desert). When we left, temps were 20-30 degrees cooler. I used detailer several times on the trip, washed it several times, everything looked great till it got hot. Now when the sun heats it up, the finish looks like it is covered with white plastic till I remove it. The paint underneath looks good.

[jfelbab]

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Are you shaking the product up vigorously before using it? First statement in the directions on the bottle says to shake well. I wonder if this is due to the product not being mixed well enough.

FWIW, I've not seen anything like this in 95° temps and high 80% humidity.

[intergalactica]

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Living in south Florida where it's always extremely hot and humid, I've come to the realization that paste waxes have less of a tendency of streaking than liquids. You could go out and purchase a tin of NXT paste and go over it again. I know....more $$$ but keep the receipt and simply return the tin back to the store if it doesn't work. One last thing, did you clay the surface prior to applying the wax?

Keep us posted on your results.

[Mike Phillips]

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If you could, click the link below and share your experience via the contact forum as by doing this it is logged and discussed by managers and if we see an uptick in any kind of issues then an investigation will be prompted.

http://www.meguiars.com/customercare/

You can even copy and paste your original message in this thread and include the link it it like this,

Hazing with NXT Wax

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24802

Not sure off-hand how far away Ridgecrest is from Irvine but maybe you can attend one of our Saturday classes and since we go over a lot of surface prep, polishing and waxing techniques by hand that might help out...

Sounds like the extreme heat we've been having here in California is affecting your results?

Here's a thread with some info to read and maybe give a try when doing your final wipe of whatever your LSP is...

Final Wiping Techniques

[ClassicConcepts]

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Mike, I'm signed up for the August 9th class with the HHRs but hope to have this solved by then. I've been applying per the instructions and removing as described, but still get an "oily" appearance that is white when the hood temp goes into the 150 degree range. The section of hood that I left with the NXT Wax didn't look bad today because it wasn't as hot out today, and the hood only got to 135 in the sun today, but I expect much more 115 degree days and 160 degree hood temps this summer. I'll link this to the Customer Care Center. See you in August.

[Mike Phillips]

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I'll link this to the Customer Care Center.

Good, this will bring the issue to the attention of management for investigation.

See you in August.

We'll looking forward to the class!

[V8Caprice]

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Just in case it's relevant, I have noticed streaking being revealed when condensation forms. (I haven't used NXT wax yet though - this was with a waterless wash fluid - the surface looked fine during the day, but I could see buff marks once a bit of dew had formed)

EDIT: I've just reread the base post and the problem appears to happen only when hot, so probably not relevant - sorry.

Greg.

[ClassicConcepts]

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They got back to me and basically said they think I have too much on (I don't see how I can get it any thinner). I've read on the forum about applying a coat and after the polymers do their thing, doing a second coat. I've not gotten past one thin coat. They also said that the heat forces the excess up and since the NXT wax has a bunch of other products in it, that's what I'm seeing. I still don't see any disclaimers on the box about not using it in the desert on black vehicles. I assumed that a "Next Generation" would handle the sun.......

[Darren F]

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was thinking of actually going to get some of the 2.0 but after reading this im not too sure....dont think i had this problem with the original NXT that I have so maybe ill just stick with it and top it with a sealant to add durability

[Alfisti]

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NXT is a sealant.

[PaBlkBrd]

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I always use two coats of NXT on my cars. I had a streaking problem early on and I found what works for me is to let it dry for a longer period of time. When you do the swipe test and it looks good, wait another few minutes and then proceed. Sometimes I still get streaks, but a once over with Last Touch, and its streak free!