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  • Polish and LSP -or- AIO for a new*ish* car?

    Gents, I've been searching, reading, mulling and all those sorts of things about what I should do next. Here is my situation.

    I have a 4 month old Hyundai Sonata, blue/gray metallic paint, few if any dealer installed swirls though it was prepped by the dealer and has seen one drive through swirl-o-matic carwash before I said no more (about the time I found MOL). I have run it through the local touchless a couple of times and I've wand washed it a couple as well.... mostly out of necessity as I didn't have the stuff I needed to do it in the driveway and the car was getting awfully gunked up.

    Having had a fairly good look at the paint, it's not showing much at all in the way of scratches or swirls... just a few faint scratches here and there but I'm not impressed with the smoothness/shine of the paint. The color of the car is nice, it's almost a flake paint really, and I'd like to boost the gloss of what I have but I'm not really looking to remove any of the clear coat just to remove those few scratches as it IS a daily driver and I expect to own this car for quite some time, thus I'd like to have a bit of paint left when I decide to sell it. I'd just like to have a smooth, dust shedding gloss on the paint and if it looks great too, well..... all the better.

    Pure polishes would not seem to be the right choice for me.... the paint is fresh, not dried out, so adding oils wouldn't seem to be the way to go. I'm thinking a mildly abrasive polish should burnish up the surface nicely without removing much paint at all using a PC and a soft polish pad. I'm thinking the green polish/finishing pad from LC in a 6.5" CCS as I have one. I had initially narrowed my choice down to Megs M80 but the more I read the more I feel that perhaps M 205 might be a better choice. However, then there are products such as ColorX and M09 and M06 never mind the burgundy A12 though I think the latter two are non abrasive and probably would do a fine job as an LSP but would not improve the surface smoothness of the paint.

    So there I are... confused as usual. There are so many choices, most would be suitable but only those who have actually used these products would be able to tell me which one is most likely right for me and would do minimal paint removal while improving the smoothness of the paint itself. Once the paint is a bit more uhh..... used, I won't hesitate to do a bit of corrective polishing but this early in the game it seems a bit wasteful of those precious few microns of paint that I paid so dearly for.

    Suggestions gladly accepted.

    Regards

    Christian

    AKA

    Kaptain "Why did I buy this car? The last three were leased and I never had to worry about'em as I planned to return'em anyway!" Zero

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    Re: Polish and LSP -or- AIO for a new*ish* car?

    Originally posted by kaptain_zero View Post
    Suggestions gladly accepted.
    In your situation I'd probably go with Meg's D151. Using the new SMAT technology you can work it in as little or as long as you want varying the degree of correction. With a polishing pad and a ROB like a PC7424 or G110, you're not going to be removing large amounts of clearcoat and you can either leave it as is or top it with a wax of your choice.

    It's a very versatile product that can be used by hand fo very minor correction on up to machine-applied at high speed for a defect removal and corrective ability on par with M205 as seen here:

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      Re: Polish and LSP -or- AIO for a new*ish* car?

      Bounty's suggestion of D151 is a good one in that it makes use of SMAT and is a great all in one type product. M205 would be an excellent alternative, especially since you mention currently not being impressed with the smoothness/shine of the paint. Of course, that "smoothness" comment should immediately make you think "clay". And, yes, even a new car can often benefit from a proper clay treatment. Follow that with M205 on the pad you mention at speed 5 or even stepped down to 4, and you should see much more clarity in the finish. Will some of those random, deeper scratches remain? Quite possibly, but often it is wise to just live with some of these on a daily driver.

      Originally posted by kaptain_zero View Post
      Once the paint is a bit more uhh..... used, I won't hesitate to do a bit of corrective polishing but this early in the game it seems a bit wasteful of those precious few microns of paint that I paid so dearly for.
      Ah, but with proper attention to the washing/drying/maintaining process you can minimize that "used" appearance for many, many years. Do a good correction early on then just be careful from there on. Remember that old saying - an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. If you don't inflict the marring in the first place (or at least greatly minimize it) then the less correction you need to do later on. Staying away from the "swirl-o-matic carwash" is an excellent first step.
      Michael Stoops
      Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

      Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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        Re: Polish and LSP -or- AIO for a new*ish* car?

        I think by not being smooth the OP is refering to orange peel. My sister has the same car but in a metallic red. It has some serious orange peel to it compared to most cars. It is to the point that I want to wet sand it to level it but with out a PTG I am hesitant to do so. Personnally i would go with M151 too.

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          Re: Polish and LSP -or- AIO for a new*ish* car?

          Thanks to everyone for your thoughts... I guess I was on the right track as far as using a SMAT product. Michael, you are so right... I've yet to clay the entire car and the two small sample spots I've done clearly indicate that a good going over with clay is the next step and as I've not yet seen this car *after* a full clay job, I might just be jumping the gun a bit, trying to select a polish.

          As near as I can tell, the D151 vs M205 as far as polishing goes makes them pretty similar with the D151 acting as an LSP as well. M205 would be the choice if I have to work a bit at removing flaws in the paint as it wouldn't flash over quite so quick.

          Bounty, I think your suggestion would be the best one for me but there is a fly in the ointment. D151 is not sold in Canada. I have ordered from ADS in the past and got a good selection of samples from the Detailer line (I didn't include D151 of course! ) but I have to cross the border to pick the package. The new regs from Home Security have kicked in and I can no longer cross the border until I get my new enhanced ID card which is still going to take a few more weeks, not to mention it's not worth it for one or two items as for me it's about a 2.5hr round trip. M205 is available in Canada from various sources so I may go that route. I COULD order a gal of D151 from someone like Autogeek who does ship to Canada, but after checking the total price it turns out that gal of D151 would cost me US $62.00 landed at my door which makes it a bit pricey, not to mention with only one car, what would I do with the rest of that Gal?

          So I think I'll clay first, take another hard look at the paint and then give it a quick coat of A12 while I mull things over.

          Memnuts, yes.... orange peel seems to be a feature of these cars, though mine is leveled enough that I don't think it bothers me... all that much..... I think...... sort of.

          Thanks again guys,

          Christian

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            Re: Polish and LSP -or- AIO for a new*ish* car?

            Just a quick update, I've clayed and clayed and clayed............. there sure was enough gunk on this car. I then used A12 wax to clean the paint and provide a quick coating of wax but then added a second layer of Collinite 845 which, while not a Megs product, does have plenty of solvent in it... just the trick for getting those last remnants of tar off the paint. A12 did a great job of removing the tar but for some reason, on this particular paint color, I could see the remaining tar spots easier when working the surface with the Collinite 845 and all that solvent quickly dissolved those remaining spots. I still have two more doors to go, I don't have much spare time so it's been a bit here, a bit there sort of project but once I get the last two doors, it'll be a thorough wash and a second coat of wax all around and I'm sure I'll be happy with it. There are no swirls or marring of the paint but there are tiny stone chips in several places which will have to be addressed next.

            Looking forward to trying out M16, it should look great on this paint. And next spring I'll hopefully have enough of an LSP on the paint to make the removal of tar spots and the like from pot hole filling a whole lot less of a chore.

            Now.... how the hang do I get the road paint splatter off the insides of my wheel wells........

            Regards

            Christian

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