Meguiar's Polymer blends, chemical side?

[prokill00]

I am a future school teacher attending SUNY Oswego. In my "Molding and Forming of Polymers" class I will be doing a presentation to a group of potential school teachers about, "The Importance of Polymers in Industry." I also have my own Professional Automotive Detailing business so I am very aware of the Polymers/Silicones/and plastics used in Meguiar's products. I was wondering if anyone (other than TOGWT, since all his information seems to be false) could help me aquire more information on the chemical side of the products. I would like to be able to cover products such as waxes (e.g. M21/M26/NXT Tech Wax), tire shine, and if any of the compounds or polishes use any polymers or silicones (e.g. M105/M205). I would like to be able to understand what the polymers are doing in each product whether they help the product bond to the paint or help produce the shine, and have an understanding of things such as "Hydrophobic Polymer Technology" and "Engineered Synthetic Polymers (ESP)" found in M21 and NXT Tech Wax.

If anyone can give me some input on this, it would be greatly appreciated, and very helpful for others who will be at the presentation to understand what these products do, and what these polymers help out with in industries.

[yalerd]

Re: Meguiar's Polymer blends, chemical side?

I don't think you would get this information. I would just stick with general information likewhat are polymers and abrasives and they act, things like this, you get the idea

[Eddie6th]

Re: Meguiar's Polymer blends, chemical side?

Only the chemists know.

[Calais]

Re: Meguiar's Polymer blends, chemical side?

It's proprietary information, no way they are going to tell you.

[TH0001]

Re: Meguiar's Polymer blends, chemical side?

I am a future school teacher attending SUNY Oswego. In my "Molding and Forming of Polymers" class I will be doing a presentation to a group of potential school teachers about, "The Importance of Polymers in Industry." I also have my own Professional Automotive Detailing business so I am very aware of the Polymers/Silicones/and plastics used in Meguiar's products. I was wondering if anyone (other than TOGWT, since all his information seems to be false) could help me aquire more information on the chemical side of the products. I would like to be able to cover products such as waxes (e.g. M21/M26/NXT Tech Wax), tire shine, and if any of the compounds or polishes use any polymers or silicones (e.g. M105/M205). I would like to be able to understand what the polymers are doing in each product whether they help the product bond to the paint or help produce the shine, and have an understanding of things such as "Hydrophobic Polymer Technology" and "Engineered Synthetic Polymers (ESP)" found in M21 and NXT Tech Wax.

If anyone can give me some input on this, it would be greatly appreciated, and very helpful for others who will be at the presentation to understand what these products do, and what these polymers help out with in industries.

Just curious as to why you say that?!

[Andy M.]

Re: Meguiar's Polymer blends, chemical side?

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[prokill00]

Re: Meguiar's Polymer blends, chemical side?

I don't think you would get this information. I would just stick with general information likewhat are polymers and abrasives and they act, things like this, you get the idea

Yeah but I dont even know what polymers are and what they do in that or how they act. Have any idea?

[Tuck91]

Re: Meguiar's Polymer blends, chemical side?

Might want to try reading the back label on some of the products or read up on some of the threads here on the forum.

I do not think you will get more info beyond that since that isnt really for us to know.

[prokill00]

Re: Meguiar's Polymer blends, chemical side?

haha yeah i read the back of the label, wont get me enough time on the presentation and paper

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Meguiar's Polymer blends, chemical side?

Unfortunately any specific information on which polymers are used in any of our products is proprietary information and can not be shared on or off this forum. Obviously many of our waxes contain some sort of polymer technology (they will state same right on the label) and we freely admit that our waxes, sealants and dressings all contain at least some degree of silicone. This information is freely available in our MSDS documentation (www.meguiars.com/msds) and in the fact that most all of these products are not body shop safe. That information, whether body shop safe or not, is published right in our catalog as it is important information for people working in that industry. It is safe to assume that any body shop safe product is free of any silicone and probably any polymers that promote bonding as well. Again, this is pretty general information.

Just how the various polymers are used in each product, how they behave and perform, is where the proprietary part comes in! Technology in this area is advancing all the time and Meguiar's strives to be on the cutting edge of that - the use of hydrophobic polymers in NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0, Ultimate Quik Detailer and Ultimate Quik Wax are just the beginning. As an aside, Oakley now advertises hydrophobic polymer coatings on some of their sports sunglasses.

As for information on possible technical uses of various polymers, how cross linking works and what it might mean for various coatings, can all be found in various technical papers freely found on the Internet. Google is your friend and, taken with a grain of salt, Wikipedia can be too (verify though!).

[the_invisible]

Re: Meguiar's Polymer blends, chemical side?

Michael states it well.


Also, regarding the topic "The Importance of Polymers in Industry." What do you mean by Industry? The term Industry is very broad, if not vague.

Polymer is also used in the hi-tech sector for making computer chips. And NASA has been using polymers for almost fifty years in their space exploration programs. The countertops in your kitchen probably contain some polymers as well. Heck, polymers in Home Depot context is glue

[yalerd]

Re: Meguiar's Polymer blends, chemical side?

Yeah but I dont even know what polymers are and what they do in that or how they act. Have any idea?

For that Wikipedia, you'll find great information.
If you want examples and definition around the car industry then I would Google things like "abrasives in the car industry" "polymers in the car industry" to see what you can get. Good luck no your presentation

[Eddie6th]

Re: Meguiar's Polymer blends, chemical side?

I've got some contacts on the inside

[ZoranC]

Re: Meguiar's Polymer blends, chemical side?

May I suggest changing the subject of presentation to something less proprietary, something that companies are more willing to divulge to general public using forums, like "Step by Step Process for Making Coke Classic with Exact Ingredients and Ratios" as part of "Importance of Corn Syrup in Soda Industry"?

[prokill00]

Re: Meguiar's Polymer blends, chemical side?

Thanks for your input everyone. I've decided to change the subject. Yes I was a little vague saying the Importance of Polymers in History. I had to pick a certain topic and zero in on something within an industry. I chose polymers in waxes. Not the best idea but it was a good try. I've went another route though. In the auto industry as well only in the audio part of it. Plastics in speakers, specifically subwoofers, and I'm using JL Audio as my example because they break down the sub clearly and concisely and say what each piece is made of.

Good luck no your presentation

Thank you