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  • KBsSS
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    The KISS method. Bought one as it does a fairly good job till I can get to the Touchless carwash.
    theunderwasher.com
    Last edited by Markus Kleis; Mar 9, 2014, 03:49 PM. Reason: No hyperlinks before 30 posts

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  • wifpd4
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    Larry,
    Nicely done video and photos, thanks for sharing.

    I've replaced the supply hose with one of those light weight collapsing hoses. Easier to move washer around with less stress on the connection.
    I dislike the reel on the discharge hose, forever fighting loops in hose when hose stretch full out.

    Undercarriage unit used all the time.

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  • larry0071
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    This is the 2012 Cruze that was not cleaned. Call this a typical newer car driven in this snow and salt.



    And this is the 10 year old Grand Prix after using the Karcher Chassis cleaner. Amazing!

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  • larry0071
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    Okay, I've got 2 cars, my new Cruze and my 10 year old Grand Prix. The Cruze is 1.5 years old. Both have been used all winter and have seen use in the snow and salt in the same area of Pittsburgh. I cleaned the Grand Prix with the chassis cleaner today and took pictures after it dried, and I took a picture of the new Cruze that has not been cleaned underneath.

    Here is a video of the Karcher K5.740 and Chassis cleaner in use.

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  • larry0071
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    I've now got the chassis washer (in the box as of yet) and the K5.740 2000 psi washer. Saturday I plan to get everything assembled and test it out. I'll let you know what I think.

    I need to come up with a cleaner additive to use while doing the under vehicle wash. For now I'll use Zep Zep-O-Shine car wash with sealant.

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  • wifpd4
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    Originally posted by larry0071 View Post
    Is there a way too adapt the chassis washer to a standard pressure washer instead of the Karcher? I've read reviews on the Karcher power washer and many owners are not very happy with the washers.

    I do have a smooth blacktop driveway, so it should work fine from that perspective. I've got the unit in the basement but have not opened it from the shipping box. I may just break down and order the Karcher K5 series 2000 psi pressure washer and hope that it works good enough.
    I can't today, but I'll take a photo of the connection. You take the lance off of the gun and then put the gun on the handle of the undercarriage unit. Not sure it would be a universal connection, but maybe there is an adapter available.

    The pressure of the Karcher seems lower than my previous no-name pressure washer, so yes 2000 psi would be a good choice. Especially using the under chassis unit. Give me a day or so and I'll photo the connection. It maybe on the Karacher website too?

    I have tipped the washer over and broke the plastic adapter between the washer and the garden hose. I was using this gawd awful stiff garden hose and tugged on the gun hose and tipped over the washer and connection broke.

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  • larry0071
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    Originally posted by wifpd4:543394
    I'll have to look around to see if there is a rustproofing company as Blueline has suggested. I haven't heard of anyone doing this locally, perhaps in a larger metropolitan area.

    I have purchased the Karcher undercarriage unit. It works fine, but is not very durable perhaps why it's so inexpensive. Works well on a smooth flat surface to roll on and is height adjustable. Two rotating nozzles spray the underside of the car. Just hooks to the gun of the Karacher high pressure washer and has a long handle to roll it under the car. If you walk around the entire car, you can spray the whole underside easily.

    It came with a bottle of chemical, that I have not used yet. There is a separate spray head and solution tank for chemicals that rolls under the car.
    Is there a way too adapt the chassis washer to a standard pressure washer instead of the Karcher? I've read reviews on the Karcher power washer and many owners are not very happy with the washers.

    I do have a smooth blacktop driveway, so it should work fine from that perspective. I've got the unit in the basement but have not opened it from the shipping box. I may just break down and order the Karcher K5 series 2000 psi pressure washer and hope that it works good enough.

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  • wifpd4
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    I'll have to look around to see if there is a rustproofing company as Blueline has suggested. I haven't heard of anyone doing this locally, perhaps in a larger metropolitan area.

    I have purchased the Karcher undercarriage unit. It works fine, but is not very durable perhaps why it's so inexpensive. Works well on a smooth flat surface to roll on and is height adjustable. Two rotating nozzles spray the underside of the car. Just hooks to the gun of the Karacher high pressure washer and has a long handle to roll it under the car. If you walk around the entire car, you can spray the whole underside easily.

    It came with a bottle of chemical, that I have not used yet. There is a separate spray head and solution tank for chemicals that rolls under the car.

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  • Jarhead0754
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    I actually was gonna say that earlier to about the wd40. I had seen Stacey David mention this on a show years ago, and then on American restorations last year. That when u don't want steal to rust or before u go off roading and don't want the mud to stick, u coat the whole undercarriage with it as it will just slide off. That's y when u get say new rotors there's the coat of grease that u have to clean off with brake cleaner. So as it leaves the factory and sit on the shelf waiting to b bought its not rusted away for the customer. However I would suggest more than 4 times a year at least.

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  • jay2d2
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    Living in south western quebec we probably get more salt and salt solutions on our roads then 97% of north america. There are days when you would think you were driving down a gravel road its on so thick.

    I was shown by someone about 10 years ago the underside of his 1988 Chev truck that he bought new, drove year round, and worked hard. The bottom of his truck was as clean as day one off the lot. His secret was WD40 about 4 times a year on all exposed metal and any rust prone areas. To do the truck he would use about a half gallon. Spring, summer, fall and if he could get it in the garage over the winter then one more time. Come spring he would just give it a good hose off.

    I have since bought this truck from him and continued his method on it along with the rest of my fleet and can honestly say it is a much better method then annual rust proofing with oils, much cleaner and seemingly more effective.

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  • Top Gear
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    I do a few simple things, but I started with a new car, and I live in the South where there is no snow/slush:
    http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums...-Undercarriage

    First, I don't drive on dirt or gravel roads. If I have to, like to get across a large park or something, I go very, very slow. Second, I don't drive in the rain, or even on significantly wet roads. If I have to, I clean it up very soon after. When that cleaning needs doing, I go to a coin-op pressure washer and focus on the underside with the suds and the wax settings, then soon after, or for regular touch-ups, I'll coat the whole undercarriage with tire foam - yes, tire foam. The foam creates a petroleum/waxy layer over parts that makes them look nice, but also protects them a bit from the elements.

    The result is I now have a 2-year-old car that still looks new underneath.

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  • Jarhead0754
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    Also there's A sound deadened by second skin audio that u can spray under the car. It will not only protect from rust but also quiet the road noise down. And it's really not expensive at all. Lizard skin also makes something as well.

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  • larry0071
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    Originally posted by JGdetailing:542967
    Originally posted by Murr1525 View Post
    Originally posted by felixtibs View Post
    who cares!?
    Well, for us up here, getting salt out is important.

    And you never know who might look under there......
    Your right Murr! Since some of is live where there is winter and the salt you need to wash your vehicle off. The salt is not good for your paint and your undercarriage.
    My cars are completely covered in a nasty white coating of salt as well as other ice fighting chemicals for about 3 months straight. Around here, cars don't wear out. They rust out. The first things to go are the brake, fuel and vacuum lines running along the chassis. Later the body will start to perforate with corrosion that comes through from the back side. My goal is to do battle on the parts that can not be normally seen or protected by getting under the car in April or so and trying to remove as much of the attacking chemicals as is reasonable possible.

    I care because I am not only working on my paint, I am under my cars doing the mechanical work and I see the progression of this corrosion first hand as I maintain my vehicles.

    The Karcher system appears to be the best option in this battle. I don't want to limit my work at the surface of the finish, I want to go under the vehicles and take the fight to the back sides and the under sides of the parts that normally will silently corrode away while we worry about how shiny and clean the paint looks.
    Let the battle commence.

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  • Daniel Kinder
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    Originally posted by felixtibs View Post
    who cares!?

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  • Blueline
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    Just get the vehicle under sprayed by a commercial rust proofing company. I get it done every fall, and my 06 looks almost new underneath. Salt will damage unpainted metal, it has NO effect on the vehicle's paint. My older car (all my cars) is never washed in the winter, and is covered in salt from December to March and when washed in the spring, it shines like new.

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