Polish & Compound question

[hemi]

I was wondering if Blackfire SRC Compound = Megs 105 , and Blackfire SRC Polish = Megs 205.

They seem like they would be very comparable. Megs 205 is a pleasure to use ,Megs 105 tends to dry out on me before i finish an area at times.

[Bruce Devilbiss]

Re: Polish & Compound question

When I use 105, after the 1st pass I will give it just a little spritz of QD on the pad. This I have found will increase the working time a little.

[imz4n]

Re: Polish & Compound question

You can work smaller areas or a spritz of water. Your pad may be getting junked up and need to be cleaned or washed ( rinsed in a bucket or sink ) and then start again. The pad being wet is not a bad thing.

[Detailing by M]

Re: Polish & Compound question

yes compounds are similar.
It's the subtle differences that makes them different.

And as far as adding spritz of water or a Detail spray, don't.
And don't use a wet pad either, you'll end up with compound everywhere and horrible results.
All that does is introduce other stuff into the product and it won't act the way it was made.
If you don't like the way a product works then change it or lean how to work with it properly.

Meg's make alot of different compounds/polishes/waxes for this reason.
I use M105 on alot of different paint without adding anything to it and it works fine.
I guess I've been taught/experienced the correct way to use it.
I've used water/QD and all it does is make a big mess and 105 worked poorly.

[Bruce Devilbiss]

Re: Polish & Compound question

yes compounds are similar.
It's the subtle differences that makes them different.

And as far as adding spritz of water or a Detail spray, don't.
And don't use a wet pad either, you'll end up with compound everywhere and horrible results.
All that does is introduce other stuff into the product and it won't act the way it was made.
If you don't like the way a product works then change it or lean how to work with it properly.

Meg's make alot of different compounds/polishes/waxes for this reason.
I use M105 on alot of different paint without adding anything to it and it works fine.
I guess I've been taught/experienced the correct way to use it.
I've used water/QD and all it does is make a big mess and 105 worked poorly.

I only use just a very small amount of QD. I never had a problem with slinging product and I only do this if it is drying to fast.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Polish & Compound question

I was wondering if Blackfire SRC Compound = Megs 105 , and Blackfire SRC Polish = Megs 205.

They seem like they would be very comparable. Megs 205 is a pleasure to use ,Megs 105 tends to dry out on me before i finish an area at times.

The similarities end with when you should use either. The Blackfire products are diminishing abrasive products and very similar to Menzerna compounds and polishes while M105/M205 use non diminishing super micro abrasive technology. In my personal experience I've found the Blackfire Compound to be more similar to our Ultimate Compound than to M105, especially when used with a DA buffer. UC is derived from M105 but offers a much longer buffing cycle with very little, if any, dust. It's our go to in our Saturday Classes, and it's extremely rare that we need to step up to something more aggressive. If you really want to use M105 on a DA, a few tips might help you out:

1. Less is more: prime your pad with M105 first, remove the excess, and then apply just 3 or 4 pea sized drops of product for a given work area. Moderate pressure and speed 5 on the DA should let M105 do it's thing pretty quickly so you don't need to buff for long periods of time.
2. Keep the pad clean: brush it clean after every section or two to prevent accumulation of dry product build up and to maximize your buffing efficiency.
3. In really hot or dry climates a supplemental wetting agent, like a light spritz of plain water, is perfectly fine to use. Just don't let it become a crutch or start to saturate the pad with it.
4. When working on badly dried out paint, M105 may not be the best product choice. UC (again, derived from M105) can often yield a much better user experience while still providing excellent cut under these conditions.

[hemi]

Re: Polish & Compound question

Thank you very much for addressing my question such a thorough manner. I found the info on diminishing and non diminishing abrasives very interesting and I was not aware of that differences between the Blackfire SRC and Megs 105 amd 205.
I have used Ultimate Compound and have found it to be more user friendly than Megs 105.
Thanks to all members that responded !
Great site !