D151 vs M6

[exploreco]

So I have used up the bottle of cleaner wax I had would like to have an option to have on hand for some of these side jobs I have been picking up where they don't want a full blown polish and wax. So I was looking at the AIO and saw that D151 is considered a AIO. It looks like a great value. Out of the two, which one would be a better choice for an AIO? I am planning on getting a Nanoskin Auto scrubber as i didn't clay the last car I did. Still looked great but needed it. She didn't care but could have quickly hit it with the scrubber and made it a little better.

Thanks

[Jarhead0754]

Man ur really getting hooked on meguiars products. Pretty soon ur just gonna own 1 of everything just to have on hand in case. I have a sample of 151 that I haven't gotten around to use yet but I hear nothing but great things on it as an AIO with awesome correcting abilities. Alot have raved about it but I look fwd to seeing these replies as to people's opinions.

[The Guz]

Re: D151 vs M6

Go with D151. It offers more correction than M6. Very versatile when used with various pads. If you are just looking to cleanse the paint with little to no correction than stick with M6 or M20.

[exploreco]

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Yeah, my thoughts are now as I run out of some existing stock I am replacing it with the Details or MG line. I would like to try give Colonite a try as I always see people raving about it on AG but that would just be for personal preference. But, yeah, I have been pretty happy with the results I have been getting with every thing I have bought and for the cost. And now that I have done a couple of jobs where they haven't wanted anything but a "wax" the outside, just thinking that an AIO I wanted to find something similar to the cleaner wax that will have the ability to remove swirls, give it a shine (polish), and provide a little protection, and sounds like D151 might be a good answer to that. I have had a couple of people at work that have asked me about getting a "detail" but they will not want to pay more than $100 max. Maybe $150 with the inside. If I have some higher end cars like the Porsche I did, I will probably stick to the polish and/or Ultimate wax. Eventually I will replace those with MG when those are gone. But those I get compensated for too.

[The Guz]

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Just be sure you are compensated for the amount of work you do. $100 sounds very low to use something like D151. At that price you may want to consider just a spray wax. Just something to think about.

[Jarhead0754]

I agree again with guz. $100 seems real low for what ur offering. If its a family or a very close friend I understand as u really don't want to charge, but at the same time product gets expensive. And especially since ur giving a more professional product and not the simple armor all quick job( which is great for non enthusiasts). Maybe u should explain to them also that ur using professional products and not something that they can just go grab at the store. Along with the amount of time and effort u put into the job is worth some money to, they definitely wouldn't b putting in the same effort as u if they did it themselves.

[Eldorado2k]

My vote goes to..



As far as those cheap customers who don't know what it's really worth.. Make some physical photos of your work. 50/50 shots. Tell them it can turn out like a brand new paintjob but even better because it's the original paint. Also, make it clear how long it can take for you to do the work. [8hrs. Min.]



When it's all said n done, $150-250 is way better than a re paint which will never equal the original paints quality.
If they don't see the value in that, give em D151. But don't undersell yourself.

You might even want to look into getting yourself some finishing pads if you don't already have some.. Because the results D151 achieves are almost too good for those extreme cheap customers. Lol.

[Jarhead0754]

Clay is so important. Def before u start any correcting and after the wash make them rub the paint and feel the roughness and when ur done again show them how smooth and slick it is when done. Then they'll have a little more appreciation and knowledge. Or even give them a 50/50 and then show the difference. Gurantee they'll always want to upgrade.

[Eldorado2k]

50/50 hood is too large of a sample.. Tape off a 16"x16" square and polish it to perfection at most.

[Jarhead0754]

That's what I meant by that really. Just draw a tape and do one small section so u can see and compare an untouched side to what a finished side would look like. U prob knew what I meant already.

[exploreco]

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Yeah, that is one thing I have to work on is pricing and what I offer and I have to be comfortable with people wrinkling their nose at the pricing because they don't know what they don't know or they don't want that much. Here in the small Midwest town I live in all we have is dealerships and a few detailers. A lot of the dealerships do not do detailing and send it out to the few shops. I personally think that I probally do a better job than these shops in my limited time but they are in the position of cranking cars out and I think for the most part the customers they have don't know what a good detail is for paint correction and such. But I am not totally sure of that. And one thing I have to keep in mind too is that I am not really in this for the money. My main goal is my own vehicles and making them look the best I can. If I get a side job here and there, then that is fine. Just want to make sure I have on hand what I need. And I don't mind doing the extra work for family for little money. Appreciate the feedback and will not be afraid to just break down what I can offer to people and just leave it up to them. I do have a unique detail opportunity present itself that I need your all’s advice and opinion on but I will start another thread for that.

[wifpd4]

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Consider the cost of product, a gallon of Paint Reconditioning Creme is say $36 and 16 oz of M06 is $14. PRC is often intended for high volume, less intensive, rapid turnover detailing situations. If you want to get your friends' cars in and out, use PRC. Wanna give them a bonus, top it with Ultimate Wax. For a complete in-depth details, use MFDA Correction Compound, MFDA Polish, MFDA Finishing Wax and Ultimate Wax or some other combination.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: D151 vs M6

Consider the cost of product, a gallon of Paint Reconditioning Creme is say $36 and 16 oz of M06 is $14. PRC is often intended for high volume, less intensive, rapid turnover detailing situations. If you want to get your friends' cars in and out, use PRC. Wanna give them a bonus, top it with Ultimate Wax. For a complete in-depth details, use MFDA Correction Compound, MFDA Polish, MFDA Finishing Wax and Ultimate Wax or some other combination.

And David puts it all into perspective.... nicely done!!!

D151 is so versatile; you can apply it with anything from a wool pad/rotary for pretty serious correction, down to a foam finishing pad/DA buffer for just a quick "cleaner wax" type application, and everything in between. For those one step jobs where you customer is on a really tight budget, it's a great choice.

[Jarhead0754]

Man I love this site!!! So very helpful. Especially when mr stoops helps us out too. He's so knowledgable!!

[exploreco]

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I love this site too! Been such a great resource. Putting an oder in soon for some D151