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    So, I am pretty new to the DA and I wanted to maybe use some M205 with my G110 to removes some pretty bad swirls and scratches. I tried M80 and it removed only the finest swirls, so I am a bit skeptical about its correcting abilities as they have a similar level of aggressiveness. Perhaps through working and re-working some M205 with some added passion will suffice?

    I was disappointed with M80's ability to correct and cut oxidation, perhaps I didn't work it long enough? What should I do to make it more effective on my SS paint, which should take to it very well.


    Any helpful write-ups I should check out about the G110/working by DA?
    James - 1979 Oldsmobile Cutlass Calais
    Calais Auto Detailing
    CalaisDetails@aim.com
    www.calaisdetailing.com (under construction)

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    Re: Any Advice?

    If you feel the need to step up to a more aggressive product than M80, your best bet would be Ultimate Compound. At roughly $10/bottle, with more cut than M83 or M205 and SMAT technology taken from M105/M205, it's darn hard to beat. An added bonus is the very long buffing cycle, meaning you can work it for quite a long time without worrying about it drying out.

    Have a look at this post (fresh off the keyboard) for more info on proper technique all around.
    Michael Stoops
    Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

    Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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    • #3
      Re: Any Advice?

      Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
      If you feel the need to step up to a more aggressive product than M80, your best bet would be Ultimate Compound. At roughly $10/bottle, with more cut than M83 or M205 and SMAT technology taken from M105/M205, it's darn hard to beat. An added bonus is the very long buffing cycle, meaning you can work it for quite a long time without worrying about it drying out.

      Have a look at this post (fresh off the keyboard) for more info on proper technique all around.
      I was going to use UC, I have a bottle already, but I figured everyone would say that maybe I am jumping the gun and stepping up the aggressiveness too abruptly.

      Very helpful post: thank you very much.
      James - 1979 Oldsmobile Cutlass Calais
      Calais Auto Detailing
      CalaisDetails@aim.com
      www.calaisdetailing.com (under construction)

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        Re: Any Advice?

        Had someone told you to go straight to M105, which is becoming far too common a recomendation these days, then you would have been cautioned to slow down a bit. Ultimate Compound is what should be getting the buzz, though, since it's easy to find, inexpensive to buy, and incredibly safe and effective to use.
        Michael Stoops
        Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

        Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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        • #5
          Re: Any Advice?

          Can you describe your process with the M80 a bit more? How large an area did you work, how long did you work it, how much pressure on the pad, etc? As always, there are factors with the paint itself that will impact things, and you may simply have a situation where M80 isn't quite strong enough.

          You could try a pair of side by side test spots - one with M80 used a bit more aggressively or longer than before, and the other with Ultimate Compound. You should have your answer pretty quickly.
          Michael Stoops
          Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

          Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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            Re: Any Advice?

            Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
            Can you describe your process with the M80 a bit more? How large an area did you work, how long did you work it, how much pressure on the pad, etc? As always, there are factors with the paint itself that will impact things, and you may simply have a situation where M80 isn't quite strong enough.

            You could try a pair of side by side test spots - one with M80 used a bit more aggressively or longer than before, and the other with Ultimate Compound. You should have your answer pretty quickly.
            I worked on a roughly 18x18" area for probably not enough time, I got a little restless. I used what felt like the right amount of pressure; a firm grip without stopping the pad from orbiting.

            I think I am going to do the side by side test shots. M80 on a beige finishing pad vs. UC on a yellow polishing pad? Do that sound about right?
            James - 1979 Oldsmobile Cutlass Calais
            Calais Auto Detailing
            CalaisDetails@aim.com
            www.calaisdetailing.com (under construction)

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            • #7
              Re: Any Advice?

              Originally posted by Calais View Post
              I worked on a roughly 18x18" area for probably not enough time, I got a little restless. I used what felt like the right amount of pressure; a firm grip without stopping the pad from orbiting.

              I think I am going to do the side by side test shots. M80 on a beige finishing pad vs. UC on a yellow polishing pad? Do that sound about right?
              Use the same type of pad for both, with the polishing pad being recommended. M80 is not nearly as aggressive as UC, and the finishing pad won't provide as much cut as the polishing pad. Your plan is a very unfair test and highly skewed toward the Ultimate Compound.

              You will most likely discover that you can buff with the UC for a very, very long time. Be patient - instant gratification is not something often achieved with paint polishing; you need to work the product for a bit to get results. Otherwise you're technique sounds about right, just make sure you're running the machine at speed 5 and keep the pad flat.
              Michael Stoops
              Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

              Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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              • #8
                Re: Any Advice?

                Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
                Use the same type of pad for both, with the polishing pad being recommended. M80 is not nearly as aggressive as UC, and the finishing pad won't provide as much cut as the polishing pad. Your plan is a very unfair test and highly skewed toward the Ultimate Compound.

                You will most likely discover that you can buff with the UC for a very, very long time. Be patient - instant gratification is not something often achieved with paint polishing; you need to work the product for a bit to get results. Otherwise you're technique sounds about right, just make sure you're running the machine at speed 5 and keep the pad flat.
                Will do, thanks very much.
                James - 1979 Oldsmobile Cutlass Calais
                Calais Auto Detailing
                CalaisDetails@aim.com
                www.calaisdetailing.com (under construction)

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