Any use for m80/m83?

[elohel]

So I recently stocked up on two bottles of m105 and 2 bottles of m205, and now I'm realizing I have two bottles of m80 and m83 that I have never touched.

I'm detailing a car this weekend. I'm wondering if I should start off with either of the m80/m83 bottles before jumping to m105, or should I just give those away and stick with the m105/m205 approach.

Thanks for putting up with my novice questions!

[ColonelCash]

Re: Any use for m80/m83?

Always use the least aggressive method first. Also, if you run across any single staged paint the M80/M83 will work wonders.

It's a shame that everyone starts out with M105 these days. There are so many other options from Megs that will perform equally as well and won't grind away precious clearcoat.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Any use for m80/m83?

Always use the least aggressive method first. Also, if you run across any single staged paint the M80/M83 will work wonders.

Very true! M80/M83 were long time favorites, even when working on modern clear coat finishes, and we have made thousands of cars look better with these products.

It's a shame that everyone starts out with M105 these days. There are so many other options from Megs that will perform equally as well and won't grind away precious clearcoat.

Again, very true (well, the "grind away clearcoat" might be a bit strong!). For as great as M105 is, just like everything else it is NOT the be-all, end-all product. There are plenty of times when you either need something a bit "wetter" or something that simply is not so aggressive. In fact, for basic swirl removal it's probably overkill the vast majority of the time. Think about it - you all managed to remove swirls long before M105 was around, and you sure weren't using M85 on your D/A to do it!!

We certainly aren't knocking M105 here as it really is a fantastic product, but ask yourself this: Do I really need the strongest, most aggressive product Meguiar's makes to remove these defects?

Keep your M80/M83 and put them to good use. Not all that long ago we had a situation where we had to buff out two cars in one day, both in the same shop. The first car responded beautifully to M105 and looked fantastic when we were finished. But when we turned to the second car and tried M105, it was far from the right choice. The paint was old and felt "dry" when working on it, and M105 just didn't like it. Or it didn't like M105. Either way, the process that worked so beautifully on the first car was obviously not going to work for us on the second. So we ended up using.........M80!!! And the car looked stunning when finished. In fact, halfway through the process we were told it look like we had repainted the thing!!

[RDVT4ME]

Re: Any use for m80/m83?

I have worked on some cars that had fairly soft paint and M80 really worked well. Also I believe that M105 is more expensive than M80....so why use the expensive solution if the less expensive one does an excellent job.

As Mike said, different paints react differently....so you do need multiple options to choose from.

[Tuck91]

Re: Any use for m80/m83?

M80/M83 works better on SS paint IMO.

[elohel]

Re: Any use for m80/m83?

Thanks again fellas. I'll definitely use the M80/83 up before trying the M105/205 (unless it isn't cutting it).

I think I just got so caught up in seeing the amazing new M105 in action that I forgot about all the other good products still out there.