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    Disclaimer:

    Although written in the style of an instructional article, the reader should be mindful of their own safety when working on an automobile in the air, automotive chemicals, lifts and jacks.

    That being said, I wanted to try Meguiar's Brake Dust Barrier prior to winter and I have documented the process I used. For me it was a two-step process. Step One was using my wife's car as the guinea pig before attempting Step Two, which was working on my own car. You would think with a user name of "WifPd4" the process would be reversed, but trust me before using her car as the guinea pig it received a very thorough and comprehensive detail job including, but not limited to, the very rare act of my performing interior detailing.

    In the shop where I rent work space there is a two-post lift, which was busy doing a brake job, so I used a floor jack to remove each rear wheel of her car and clean it and then replace it. For the front I was able to use the four-post lift and it's bridge jack to remove both front wheels at the same time.

    I hadn't checked my product inventory prior to starting her car so I ran out of a quality wheel cleaner and used some less effective product to clean the rims. The rims and tires were cleaned, high pressure rinsed, leaf blower dried and then the back side of the rims was mechanically cleaned using a corded drill with a 4" wool ball and some generic metal polish. Her rims were not very clean on the inside after all that work before applying the brake dust barrier. It was after all the guinea pig test project before doing the final project.*

    Now after the experimenting with and completing the guinea pig, I went to the store and bought another can of brake dust barrier. I had used a can and 2/3s on her car. Too much. I also picked up some Meguiar's wheel cleaners of various strengths and formulations.

    When using chemicals and other potentially dangerous work processes, I recommend safety glasses, chemical resistive gloves, a ground fault interrupter extension cord on your power tools and a review of your car's owner's manual regarding jacking up your car, lug nut tightening torques and tightening pattern. You should also be familiar with using a floor jack and wheel chocks. Also be familiar with your high pressure washer. Avoid pointing it at yourself or using too much pressure and ruining your tires or rims. Work smart, work safe.

    I ran the car upon the four-post lift and raised it into the air to adjust and position the bridge jack and lift the two front wheels into the air. However, I wasn't happy with where the jack hit the suspension of this AWD car. I grabbed the owner's manual and found the section for jacking the car. In addition to the four areas the car could be jacked using the manufacturer supplied scissors jack, two locations were shown where a floor jack could be used. I backed the car off of the hoist and found a flat spot in the garage to use the floor jack to remove the two front wheels. After putting a chock under one of the rear wheels, I loosened the lug nuts on the the two front wheels and then jacked the car into the air and removed one of the wheels. The wheels had just recently been rotated by the dealership so each wheel was already marked with it's appropriate location. So I rolled the right front over to the wash bay and started to work.

    Following the chemical manufacturer's (Meguiar's) instructions I throughly rinsed the wheel and then sprayed the wheel cleaner on the inner rim and allowed it to soak for a few minutes. Then using my small, but effective, toilet bowl brush I thoroughly brushed the inner rim surfaces. After brushing for a few minutes, I gave the rim another shot of cleaner and brushed some more. I rinsed thoroughly and flipped the wheel over to repeat the process on the face of the rim using a softer brush. After rinsing, I repeated the process using a slightly different wheel cleaner and was more aggressive with the brush on the tire.

    The entire wheel and both sides were high pressure rinsed. The wheel was moved off of the floor drain and placed in dry section of the floor and thoroughly dried using a leaf blower. The wheel was flipped a couple of times to insure it was dry before placing it on the rosin paper I used to protect the floor from any overspray.

    While that wheel air dried, I removed the other front wheel from the car and began washing it. After washing that wheel and while letting it drip dry before leaf blowing, I started to spray the inner side of the first rim. The spray is light and almost fog like in addition to being in a can that is fairly easy to point and not have too much overspray. I coated the inner surface, a bit too heavily, but not bad. Overspray onto the tire was minimal. I flipped the wheel, being careful not to just drop it to the floor to prevent jarring the fresh coating of brake dust barrier coating. I could see a few runs on the face of the rim, but they seemed to smooth themselves out. I finished coating the face of the rim and returned my attention to blow drying the other wheel. After the second wheel was dry, I took the first rim to the car, mounted it and loosely tighten the lug nuts. I returned to the second wheel, sprayed both sides of the rim and returned to the first wheel and applied Endurance gel tire dressing while the brake barrier was drying on the second rim.

    After applying tire dressing to the first tire, I mounted the second tire, loosely tightened lug nuts, applied tire dressing and then lowered the car to the ground. I tightened the lug nuts close to final torque or my best guess since I didn't have a torque wrench.

    Moved the wheel chock, loosened the rear lug nuts, and jacked up the car and removed one wheel to repeat the whole process on the two rear wheels.

    It should be remembered not to touch the rims while mounting the wheels back on to the car. Any nicks or touching of the drying brake dust barrier will leave a defect in the sprayed product.

    The two rear wheels were mounted, car lowered to the ground and all lug nuts tightened in the manner recommended in the manual and to the approximate torque recommended in the manual. I'll do final torque with a torque wrench tomorrow.

    The entire process took a bit of time, but I did mess around getting the car into position and jacked up, plus I'm not a speedy worker. The spray can does not list an acceptable or minimum temperature the product can be used, but I was at what I thought was the low end of the scale at 60 degrees. I waited an hour before leaving the building as the outdoor air temp was hovering around 16 degrees Fahrenheit.

    The brake barrier can does list several precautions and I was working in a very large room and didn't notice being bothered by fumes. I did notice when flipping the wheel from side to side the fumes had been contained under the wheel and the odor was noticeable when flipping the wheel over and releasing the "trapped" fumes from under the wheel. Using even a cheap dust mask might be a good precaution.

    I like the product and an acceptable application is easy to obtain. The finished barrier has a nice shine and is otherwise invisible. Runs, for the most part, seem to smooth out on their own. Any runs I saw after mounting the wheels, I just left believing they would not be visible to most, if not all, folks looking at the car.

    The can is small, light and maneuverable making application easy and straight forward. Holding the can is an unacceptable position results in a hissing sound alerting the worker that the can should be held upright. Overspray onto the tire was minimal. I was a bit too generous on my wife's first wheel on the inside face of the rim and when I flipped that side down onto the paper some product ran onto the rubber tire and sort of stuck to the paper. I wiped it off the tire with a rag and it seemed okay. So if you are laying the wheels down to spray them, flip them as soon as possible to insure you don't have product running down onto the tire of the down side.

    Yes, I know my car is a hybrid and doesn't really make much brake dust, but I look forward to improving the ease of cleaning the rims over the life of the barrier. The process of removing the wheels is time consuming and if you are only interested in coating the outer face of the rim, it would be a quick and painless process. From what I've seen it is a nice product and I'm wondering if coating the barrier with a quality wheel wax would extend the life of the coating.


    This is the practice run with my wife's car, the guinea pig for the process.
    Each wheel was removed and moved to the drain of the wash bay.




    Each of her wheels were rinsed and sprayed with a generic wheel cleaner and thoroughly brushed with a
    solution of Deep Crystal Car Soap.






    Prior to washing and brushing.




    The tape was used to prevent any runs onto the face of rim from the backside of the rim.
    The paper was used to prevent overspray onto the concrete floor of the shop.






    The test had been performed on the guinea pig, now it was time move onto the real deal. Temperature in
    the shop was around 60 degrees. Using a red laser remote thermometer the surface of the wheels was
    also around 60 degrees after washing and blow drying.





    First, I was going to use the four-post hoist and the cross bridge jack to remove the front wheels of the
    car. However I wasn't happy with the alignment of the jack and the car's frame and suspension.




    Following the instructions in the owner's manual, I used a floor jack to raise the front end of the car and
    remove the front wheels from the car.




    Although brake dust is not typically with a hybrid car as they use regenerative braking from the motor/generators
    associated with the hybrid system, I wanted to use brake dust barrier to make it easier to clean the normal
    dust and dirt from the rims.




    This photo is an "after" of the cleaning process.




    The rear end is jacked up and the rear wheels were removed and cleaned in the wash bay.




    This is the tires were dressed with gel Endurance. If you look closely at the rim you will see a couple of
    runs which disappeared with time.




    Finished project. Wheels washed, cleaned, tires dressed and rims coated with Meguiar's Brake Dust Barrier.




    End of day. Room temp still 60 degrees while it was 16 degrees outdoors.



    Thanks for stopping by.

    Meguiar's Brake Dust Barrier is an easy product to use and offers a nice look when
    applied according to manufacturer's instructions. Will watch the wheels as time passes to see how long the
    barrier holds up to cleaning and Iowa winters. Am considering using a wheel wax on top of barrier to see if
    the life of the barrier can be extended on the face of the rim. I don't think I will be removing the wheels anytime
    soon to either reapply the barrier or use any wheel wax. I only get this gung-ho every so often...!

    "fishing for swirls in a sea of black"
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    David

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    Re: Brake Dust Barrier

    Wow, nice write up David!

    Looking forward to seeing how well the BDB holds up.
    Originally posted by Blueline
    I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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    • #3
      Re: Brake Dust Barrier

      About as detailed an outline of the steps used as we've ever seen, David! But knowing your sense of humor, I was fully expecting some sort of an "uh oh!" moment to come along........ not sure why, I just was!!


      I don't recall if you're a user of IronX or similar products, but I'll caution you and others anyway and give you some insight into the durability of this product. Let's just say that Brake Dust Barrier and IronX (well, TriX, specifically) don't get along. I discovered this when, after using some TriX that was given to me by a friend, my wheels suddenly looked the way bare aluminum looks when you spray Chrome Wheel Cleaner on them. Given the TriX is supposed to be uber safe on virtually everything, needless to say I was shocked, stunned, and more than a bit angry. Until I noticed that the "damage" abruptly stopped at a line that looked like it could have been a tape line. As it turns out, it actually was a tape line. And why a tape line on my wheels? Because I had applied BDB to half of each front wheel before it was formally introduced. This would have been around July or August of 2011. When did I use the TriX? A full year later!!! I was able to fix the "damage" by stripping the BDB.

      It should be noted that during that year these wheels have been cleaned multiple times with All Wheel Cleaner, All Wheel & Tire Cleaner, and even Wheel Brightener a couple of times. Yet the BDB was obviously still there. Durable stuff, it just doesn't like TriX (and I'll assume IronX and maybe even Sonax Full Effect Wheel Cleaner). Please understand this is not a knock against any of those fine products (and fine products they are), just an observation of two products who don't seem to play well with each other. And that really is a very rare thing.

      Again, David, awesome write up, and we look forward to any follow up reports on your findings with BDB.
      Michael Stoops
      Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

      Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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      • #4
        Re: Brake Dust Barrier

        Mighty fine post, David!
        I,too,will be looking forward to any updates you can provide, especially since it sounds like your vehicles will be exposed to weather similar to Western PA where I reside.

        Michael, your reply was interesting also. I had seen your original post on Trix over BDB, but didn't give it as much attention as this one. If BDB held up to Wheel Brightener, it must be some good stuff. Two of the family fleet are German vehicles, Audi & BMW, both horrible brake dusters, so I spend a lot of time with my tired old butt on my rolling seat trying to keep them clean and protected without resorting to harsh chemicals that may be tough on the clearcoat. If BDB is that durable, it certainly might make wheel cleaning a bit less tedious, especially on the 48 skinny spokes of the wife's BMW wheels.
        Definitely subscribed for future posts on the subject.

        Bill

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        • #5
          Re: Brake Dust Barrier

          Cool work, David.

          Subscribed.

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          • #6
            Re: Brake Dust Barrier

            I havent used anything but car soap since early summer when BBD was applied, and all dirt seems to come off easily. I dont have bad brake dust, but have to go a few weeks between washing, so time for dirt to build up and set in.
            2017 Subaru WRX Premium - WR Blue

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            • #7
              Re: Brake Dust Barrier

              Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
              About as detailed an outline of the steps used as we've ever seen, David! But knowing your sense of humor, I was fully expecting some sort of an "uh oh!" moment to come along........ not sure why, I just was!!


              I don't recall if you're a user of IronX or similar products, but I'll caution you and others anyway and give you some insight into the durability of this product. Let's just say that Brake Dust Barrier and IronX (well, TriX, specifically) don't get along. I discovered this when, after using some TriX that was given to me by a friend, my wheels suddenly looked the way bare aluminum looks when you spray Chrome Wheel Cleaner on them. Given the TriX is supposed to be uber safe on virtually everything, needless to say I was shocked, stunned, and more than a bit angry. Until I noticed that the "damage" abruptly stopped at a line that looked like it could have been a tape line. As it turns out, it actually was a tape line. And why a tape line on my wheels? Because I had applied BDB to half of each front wheel before it was formally introduced. This would have been around July or August of 2011. When did I use the TriX? A full year later!!! I was able to fix the "damage" by stripping the BDB.

              It should be noted that during that year these wheels have been cleaned multiple times with All Wheel Cleaner, All Wheel & Tire Cleaner, and even Wheel Brightener a couple of times. Yet the BDB was obviously still there. Durable stuff, it just doesn't like TriX (and I'll assume IronX and maybe even Sonax Full Effect Wheel Cleaner). Please understand this is not a knock against any of those fine products (and fine products they are), just an observation of two products who don't seem to play well with each other. And that really is a very rare thing.

              Again, David, awesome write up, and we look forward to any follow up reports on your findings with BDB.
              Can I ask how the BDB was removed, I applied it rather hastily several months back on a family members ford edge wheels. The wheels seem to have some sort of chrome coverings on them from the factory, it was done in much of a rush and I had a few runs that I have noticed recently. I would like to strip the product off and start fresh. I also had a few water runs when I applied it, I did however wipe up them after applying the product. The few runs came from wiping the water runs up and re-applying a little heavily to that area.

              I can easily hit the face of the rims with a polisher and whatever pad necessary (I have many polishes and compounds of varying aggressiveness), I have a rotary and PC with everything from microfiber to wool pads. I was then planning on taking the dynacone polisher to the inbetween spoke areas with a polish or compound.......Would this approach work in removing the product?

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              • #8
                Re: Brake Dust Barrier

                Wow amazing write-up, David! I didn't see this thread before. I'm not looking forward to your findings as well.
                2011 Car Crazy Showcase SEMA Team

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                • #9
                  Re: Brake Dust Barrier

                  Originally posted by 97t-bird View Post
                  Can I ask how the BDB was removed, I applied it rather hastily several months back on a family members ford edge wheels. The wheels seem to have some sort of chrome coverings on them from the factory, it was done in much of a rush and I had a few runs that I have noticed recently. I would like to strip the product off and start fresh. I also had a few water runs when I applied it, I did however wipe up them after applying the product. The few runs came from wiping the water runs up and re-applying a little heavily to that area.

                  I can easily hit the face of the rims with a polisher and whatever pad necessary (I have many polishes and compounds of varying aggressiveness), I have a rotary and PC with everything from microfiber to wool pads. I was then planning on taking the dynacone polisher to the inbetween spoke areas with a polish or compound.......Would this approach work in removing the product?
                  IIRC, you can fix any runs by applying rather heavily to one corner of a MF towel and then applying the saturated part of the towel to the run. I'm sure Mr Stoops will confirm..
                  Originally posted by Blueline
                  I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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                    Re: Brake Dust Barrier

                    Originally posted by davey g-force View Post
                    IIRC, you can fix any runs by applying rather heavily to one corner of a MF towel and then applying the saturated part of the towel to the run. I'm sure Mr Stoops will confirm..
                    This is absolutely correct, and it's how I took the product off my wheels following the experience with TriX staining the coating.
                    Michael Stoops
                    Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                    Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Brake Dust Barrier

                      Sorry, I forgot to subscribe to the thread and have missed some of the discussion.

                      I will try to evaluate the condition of the BDB on my car in the next couple of days. However, I'm very confident in the product and have used it on the face of the rims of the last four cars I've done. Not so much as a brake dust barrier, but a means to make winter cleaning easier.


                      Mr. Stoops as far a humor, the day I worked on my car was just a bit humorless...
                      I pulled my car onto the four post lift, hoisted into the air, but did not notice the length of the extensions on the cross bridge jack. This jack, as maybe all cross bridge jacks do, has interchangeable vertical extension to compensate for the height of the car relative to the top of the jack.

                      Anyway I should have switched to a taller extension, but I jacked the car up anyway. Jacked it all the way up and barely got the front wheels off the rack. Not happy with just a fraction of an inch off the rack, I pumped the jack to it's upper limit and perhaps a bit beyond. And the safety on the jack locked in place.

                      I finally said, "rats, not high enough let's put her back on the ground" and I tried to disengage the safety on the jack and release the hydraulic to lower the jack and ultimately lower the rack and get my car back on the ground.

                      But no....the safety would not release. I tried raising the car again, but was at the upper limit of the jack.

                      So I'm stuck in the air with my front tires just barely off the rack. I lowered the rack to the ground, got in the car (which is AWD) and with a horrendous scraping sound, backed off the jack.

                      My verbiage was no longer "Rats", but luckily, jack, lift and car were all okay and no one was within ear shot of my non-professional language.

                      While perhaps good fodder for a humorous story, I was instead "humorless".

                      "fishing for swirls in a sea of black"
                      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                      David

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                      • #12
                        Re: Brake Dust Barrier

                        Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
                        About as detailed an outline of the steps used as we've ever seen, David! But knowing your sense of humor, I was fully expecting some sort of an "uh oh!" moment to come along........ not sure why, I just was!!

                        Originally posted by wifpd4 View Post


                        Mr. Stoops as far a humor, the day I worked on my car was just a bit humorless...
                        Ah, so there was an "uh oh" moment in this after all!! Sorry to hear about the frustrations of the day, David, but it sounds as though you overcame it in the end.
                        Michael Stoops
                        Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                        Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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