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soarer
May 12th, 2004, 12:20 PM
On May the eighth, two thousand and four, thirty plus enlightened Detailers desended upon Meguiar's in Irvine California.

Most have heard of the Legendary Scottwax, others would soon have his name etched in their souls like hard water spots on paint.

Observing this Man, he is wise and articulate, he knows his product like a chemist, his tools like a surgeon. He is proficient with the Nikon n60 35mm slr, as he is with a dual action polisher g-100a. This Being is an Alchemist.

Detailers gathered around to witness this Wizard, who is known to transform the finest machines in all the land, into mobile works of art, using but just his magical hands.

They watched with anticipation as the Famous Scottwax was set to burst the metallic out from the paint on a 350Z. Scott would wax with what he is admired for, by hand, against the skilled detailer Aurora 40 wielding a G-100A with a W-9006.

To everyones amazement The Mighty Scottwax was triumphant
against the Machine. In Aurora 40's own account.
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He is a real master of detailing. Watching Scott wax from the front of a car by hand, while I started from the rear by PC was awesome. He was already waxing the back 1/4 panel before I'd finished that one section!! It was also awesome to watch Scott

To the Wax Master Scottwax, I say many thanks to you, for your candor, wisdom and selflessness. Thanks for helping the Black Lexus look so mesmerizing.

To the future, wherever it takes you.

~Soarer

Special thanks to Mike Phillips.

Also thanks to Brian, Bob, Jimamary, Bob and Daniel.

Aurora40
May 12th, 2004, 01:09 PM
Heh, thanks for referring to me as "the skilled detailer Aurora 40"... :o

I thought maybe you had some picts of Scott's hand blurring along the paint or something. But here's one of your gallery shots:

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/5890489020-R1-054-25A_25.jpg

I think that SC 400 might have been the most amazing transformation of the day. It wasn't in bad shape or anything when it started, but it was simply incredible when it left.

soarer
May 12th, 2004, 02:12 PM
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I think that SC 400 might have been the most amazing transformation of the day. It wasn't in bad shape or anything when it started, but it was simply incredible when it left.

Thanks Bob. When Mike Phillips and Scottwax touch things,
al-k&-mE.

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I thought maybe you had some picts of Scott's hand blurring along the paint or something.

I only had 400 speed film, so it was a blur of a blur.:LOLOL:

Bob, if you could please, post more of my gallery pictures, especially the one of you contemplating taking on Scottwax in a Man vs Machine rematch, waxing Meguiar's big rig.:LOLOL:

~Soarer

Jimmy Buffit
May 12th, 2004, 06:36 PM
I was there.
It's all true.

For me, the most satisfying aspect was to watch Soarer try to contain his satisfaction of the entire day's work!

The car really looked better than the picture, and, if I remember correctly, it is NINE years old...

Nice products, great technique!

Jim

Aurora40
May 12th, 2004, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by soarer
Bob, if you could please, post more of my gallery pictures, especially the one of you contemplating taking on Scottwax in a Man vs Machine rematch, waxing Meguiar's big rig.:LOLOL:

~Soarer

Alright, but only because you mentioned I was skilled... ;)

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/5890489020-R1-062-29A_29.jpg

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/5890489020-R1-064-30A_30.jpg

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/5890489020-R1-046-21A_21.jpg

P.S. Scottwax was probably 30,000 feet in the air by the time the Meg's truck pulled in.

For those that haven't seen it (apparently it is rarely at Meg's headquarters), the paint on that truck is absolutely amazing. It's just a big truck, which to me isn't that interesting, but the detail work on all the paint is just incredible. The amount of time and skill put into it is really interesting. :bigups

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/5890489020-R1-020-8A_8.jpg

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/5890489020-R1-008-2A_2.jpg:bigups

Scottwax
May 12th, 2004, 07:47 PM
Soarer-thanks for the kind words. :coolgleam

I had a blast working on so many cars, yours was real fun because it was already in pretty good shape, just needed a deeper polishing to take it the next level. I wish I hadn't had to leave when I did (but got to take care of my customers....did all my Saturday cars on Sunday with about 5 hours of sleep) because I wanted to see how your car ultimately turned out in person, but the pics look great!

What I really liked was seeing the look on people's faces when they saw how using the right tools, processes and products could tranform an already good finish into an excellent one. The glee on some of the participant's faces were priceless!

soarer
May 13th, 2004, 12:43 AM
Mike Phillips and Scottwax helped detail the Back Lexus, which has stage one paint.

The products that were used- Meguiar's clay bar w/ Quik Detailer, #81 hand polish w/ G-100 A w/ W-8006 yellow pad @ #5, followed by NXT wax w/ W-9006 finishing pad, wo w/ M-9920 Ultimate Bonnet @ #5. #81 w/ PC on all Glass.

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For me, the most satisfying aspect was to watch Soarer try to contain his satisfaction of the entire day's work!

The car really looked better than the picture, and, if I remember correctly, it is NINE years old...

Thanks Jim for all your wisdom and help. :bigups

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Alright, but only because you mentioned I was skilled...

OK, OK... Highly SKilled!:bow Thanks Bob

The fifth picture from the top is Daniel's Infinity G35.

The next picture is of Brian aka Sqkykln, Mike Phillips, Bob aka Rjstaff, Bob aka Aurora 40, Jim aka Jimamary, aka Jimmy Buffit and Daniel aka Soaped.

Thanks Guys for all your help too!:xyxthumbs

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What I really liked was seeing the look on people's faces when they saw how using the right tools, processes and products could tranform an already good finish into an excellent one. The glee on some of the participant's faces were priceless!

Your right Scott, as Soaped said,"Being in a Meguiar's garage is kind of like the Disneyland experience. Based on people's reactions to their finished cars, it must be one of the happiest place on earth lol."party:

~Soarer

rusty bumper
May 13th, 2004, 08:26 PM
Hey Guys....What's the deal with the big rig? How did the SUV get up on those ramps?...Never seen anything like that. :D

soarer
May 14th, 2004, 01:53 PM
Mike wrote about the big rig in the Autopia detail day at Meguiar's post.

Said it came in for supplies and to pick up the SUV, the ramp for which the Ford sits lowers up and down.

The Rig travels around to events, promoting Meguiar's.

How would you like to detail that thing top to bottom?:o

rusty bumper
May 14th, 2004, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by soarer
How would you like to detail that thing top to bottom?:o
As long as I got paid by the hour, I wouldn't mind it...:D

soarer
May 14th, 2004, 07:46 PM
What would you charge for someting like that to complete?

Scottwax
May 14th, 2004, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by soarer
What would you charge for someting like that to complete?

Several hundred dollars, at least!

soarer
May 15th, 2004, 10:39 PM
Having you do it Scott, that's like a 75 % discount!:bow

rusty bumper
May 16th, 2004, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by soarer
Mike Phillips and Scottwax helped detail the Back Lexus, which has stage one paint.

#81 hand polish w/ G-100 A w/ W-8006 yellow pad @ #5

~Soarer

They worked in #81 on the 5 setting?.......Am I seeing this right?

Looks like the product would have gummed up at that speed. :confused:

soarer
May 17th, 2004, 12:37 PM
I left one of those steps bank in the speed setting, was not clear as to the speed. Applying #81 could have been @ 4 on the speed setting. I recall using 4 on one of these steps:confused:

Nothing gummed up, so you may be right!

Mike or Scott:D

Aurora40
May 17th, 2004, 12:47 PM
I thought I remembered Mike putting #81 on the hood by hand, and then Scott buffing it off with an Ultimate Wipe. But I could be thinking of a different car. Wasn't the Lexus the one that had the NXT vs. #16 face-off on the hood?

soarer
May 17th, 2004, 05:56 PM
I thought I remembered Mike putting #81 on the hood by hand, and then Scott buffing it off with an Ultimate Wipe. But I could be thinking of a different car. Wasn't the Lexus the one that had the NXT vs. #16 face-off on the hood?

Bob, your right, they were doing a lot of product comparing on just the hood.

Later, the rest of the car was done with #81 and PC.

By the way, your services are wanted over at autopia, in Man vs Machine part 1A:bow

Scottwax
May 19th, 2004, 07:45 PM
Yeah, we did the #16/NXT face off on Soarer's car but the pad was so drenched in #16 when we moved the car into the sun, the #16 side looked hazy because there was still so much wax on it. Once we got the rest removed, the look was pretty close. NXT will have an advantage on single stage paint because of its very light cleaners over #16 which is a pure wax. NXT would have the ability to even more finely polish the paint and protect as well.

ron
Jun 30th, 2004, 04:57 PM
What happen to all the pictures that were posted in this thread? None are showing now. I would like to see the results that are mentioned.

Ron

coolchid
Aug 3rd, 2004, 07:31 AM
Where ARE the pics?

n1976jmk
Feb 23rd, 2005, 05:20 PM
CALLING Mike P...


I would like to see the pics ALSO!!

macdude
Feb 23rd, 2005, 05:57 PM
Pics please! :D

Mike Phillips
Feb 23rd, 2005, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by macdude
Pics please! :D

The reason the pictures don't show up is because either,

*The photos are no longer hosted in the location they were at the time they were posted to Scott's reply.
*The URL address has changed and the current URL address points to the wrong location.

If you click on quote like you were going to quote Scott in a reply, your message box will open up with his message and the code to his pictures, I have copied and pasted it below but removed the brackets so that the code will show up (Brackets would look like this [ and one of these ] around the letters, img in front of and after the URL address

img]http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/500/1099cars1.jpg[/img

img] http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/500/1099cars2.jpg [/img

img] http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/500/1099closeup_finished_cars.jpg [/img

Now you can see for the first picture, the URL Address is

http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/500/1099cars1.jpg

And if you click on the link it goes nowhere. That's why the pictures don't show up.

Pictures in messages have to be hosted or stored somewhere on the Internet so that a code link can point to them and they'll show up. The picture will only show up as long as it is in the original place it was uploaded to and the URL address remains the same, otherwise... a RED X

The best bet for any pictures you want to post in your messages on Meguiar's Online is to upload them into the Gallery here on Meguiar's Online and then use the IMG tags to insert them into your messages.

Here's an article I wrote that explains why the Attach File option in our forum in not enabled, and it also has links that go to three tutorials that use pictures to walk you through the process of learning how to work with images in the vbulletin environment, (and most discussion forum environments).



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Hi everyone....

A lot of people want to share a picture in their message and naturally try to do so using the Attach file option at the bottom of where you type in your message...

That would be right below to the left where it says "Attach File"


http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2AttachFile.jpg


When I say that the Attach File option is not enabled, what I mean is it won't insert your picture, but instead inserts a link. You can still click on the Browse button to select a picture off your computer, but it won't actually insert the image. See below,


http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2ResultsfromAttachFileOption.jpg


The "Attach File" option is turned off because over time the data base tables become corrupted and the wrong pictures show up in messages, (everyone's messages). What this means is overtime, if you were to read a message you posted you may see someone else's picture in your message instead of the picture you originally Attached. This can be very annoying. For example, you post a message about the horrible swirls in your car's finish but the pictures shows beautiful car, or something else. When this happens, you message doesn't make sense you to, or anyone else that's reading the thread.

The other problem with using the Attach File option is that it creates two data bases with pictures, (one for the gallery and one for the forum), which is a bad use of resources and causes long back-up times.

For the above reason, we provide all our registered members with their own gallery to keep their photos in. We ask all of our members to upload their pictures into their gallery and then use the IMG tags to insert your picture into your message.


It would look like this,

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2UsingIMGtags.jpg

Note: In the above picture, there is a Yellow Box drawn around what is called the URL Address of a picture that is on the Internet, whether it's in your Meguiar's Online Gallery, or somewhere else. To snag this address, all you have to do is Right Click with your mouse on the top of any photo on the Internet, and then select Properties. An information box will appear on your computer screen with information about the pictures. Look for the words, URL Address and then use your mouse/cursor to to highlight the address and then Right Click on the highlighted text and select Copy, to copy this URL address into the IMG button/tags.

http://red.teamwav.com/11 copy.JPG

It's pretty simple and easy to do, once you do it a few times. After uploading your pictures and inserting them using the IMG button, you will get the hang of it and it works the same way on most forums.

Here are some tutorials on how to work with images in the vbulletin environment. These can be found in a forum called, Meguiar?s On-line Technical Tutorials (http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=46).

1) How-to Crop your photos before uploading them to your gallery (http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=573)
2) How to resize your photos using Easy Thumbnails - Free software! (http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=879)
3) Step-by-Step Picture-Posting HOW TO (http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=505)


In most cases, you should follow the above order when working with your images. That is,

First Step - Crop your photo's. Cut out the junk so that your picture contains what's important, the picture should tell a story even if the story is, "Look at me, I'm a beautiful car". There is an example in the tutorial).


Second Step - Resize your photos. It's bad Netiquette to post pictures that are wider than 700 pixels wide as it will not fit on the majority of peoples computer monitors and in order to see you picture, the viewer will have to horizontal scroll, ugh.... A lot of digital cameras take very large pictures, so you you must resize them to make them easy to view as well as faster to download.

The Tutorial for his shows you how to do it with a free software program that I use, but any software program that you already own and know how to use will also work.


Third Step - Upload your picture to your gallery, this is covered for both PC computers and MACcomputers in the tutorial.

When you see someone, especially a new member trying to attach a picture using the Attach file option, please be kind and share with them the link to this message so that they will understand why their pictures don't show up and so that they can learn the proper procedures for inserting photos into their messages.

We want to encourage people to post their pictures, but we want to show them how to do it the right way.

"Each one, teach one"

Thank you!

:bow :bow :bow

Mike