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Mike Phillips
Feb 28th, 2004, 08:36 AM
Ford Lightning Detail Day at Meguiar’s

Meguiar’s is proud to host a NXT Generation Detail Day for owners of the Ford Lightning Trucks.


http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2FordLightningday1-med.jpg

In about 5 minutes the class will start, followed by a demonstration and Pizza. After that were going to see just how many of these bad boys we can buff out today!

Mike

gb387
Feb 28th, 2004, 05:34 PM
looks like fun! To bad it not closer to me!

Rockpick
Feb 28th, 2004, 06:04 PM
Looks like a bunch of REALLY nice trucks! Wish I could've made it out but the 31 hour drive really kind of pulled me out of the hunt... Mapquest Link (http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?go=1&do=nw&1tabval=address&2tabval=address&1sbx=0&cl=EN&un=m&2sbx=0&ct=NA&1y=US&1a=&1c=LaGrange&1s=KY&1z=&2y=US&2a=&2c=Irvine&2s=CA&2z=&formtype1=address&formtype2=address&idx=0&id=40414c30-00299-04e10-400c252e&aid=40414c30-0029a-04e10-400c252e&bs.x=0&bs.y=0)

RP :D

Corbon91
Feb 28th, 2004, 06:13 PM
31 hours??? No problem!!! It'll take what, 3-4 days???? ;)

Details3
Feb 28th, 2004, 08:08 PM
Seems like Meguiars only does these things in CA or East Coast. I stuck in Texas so LOL.

Teak
Feb 28th, 2004, 08:24 PM
RP,
That is short drive. Just remember if the wheels are not turning you are not making money.

Details3,
Where on the East coast has Meguiars held a clinic?

Eric

Details3
Feb 28th, 2004, 08:43 PM
I have a friend who lives in NC and he mentioned it last summer. I think it was the truck that travels around the country - he mentioned that he recieved some training from Megs. I will email him to get more information and then shoot you an email.

Svtlightning195
Feb 28th, 2004, 10:35 PM
Well I would just like to say I had the pleasure of bringing in my gen 1 lightning and meeting these people, especially Mike Phillips. He was a very cool guy and has given me the secrets to restore my paint. Before I talked with him today I was ready to get it repainted, he proved to me I can restore my old paint with the right "receipe" and some dedication. All I can say Is thank You very much, Id love to bring the truck by again after I do the whole thing as we did to the passenger door and have you overlook what I did.

1 Clean WS6
Feb 29th, 2004, 03:24 PM
Hey Mike!

Can't wait to see the pictures!!

Has Meguiar's ever considered opening up an east coast office??? Maybe like in Atlanta?????:D



http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/112Bolt2-med.jpg

Mike Phillips
Feb 29th, 2004, 05:04 PM
The Ford Lightning Detail Day at Meguiar's brought at least 25 area members of the local National Lightning Owners Club

Here's a link to their main homepage, http://www.nloc.net/home.php

One of the trucks their had a sticker in the window with their club name reflecting on the hard tonnoe cover,

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2SCLOClogo-med.jpg

Mike Phillips
Feb 29th, 2004, 05:07 PM
Besides an opportunity to learn more about Meguiar’s products and techniques for using them, Detail Days at Meguiar’s are a time to meet with fellow club members who hang out on the various NLOC discussion forums and put a name to an Avatar.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2001cartalkwithwithforumfriends.jpg

Mike Phillips
Feb 29th, 2004, 05:21 PM
25 trucks and over 30 people in attendance makes for a very full class!


http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2003FullClass.jpg

Mike Phillips
Feb 29th, 2004, 05:24 PM
The first order of business after the classroom presentation is to demonstrate some techniques for applying and removing various products using the G-100 Dual-Action Polisher.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2004quickdemo-med.jpg

Mike Phillips
Feb 29th, 2004, 05:27 PM
After the demonstration, it's time to get busy!

After cleaning and claying the hood of the very wild looking yellow and black Boss 5.4 liter Ford Lightning, a close visual inspection revealed some very light water spotting.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2005waterspotsinfinish.jpg

Mike Phillips
Feb 29th, 2004, 05:33 PM
Here's a shot of the owner using the G-100 Dual Action Polisher to remove the defects and restore a crystal clear surface using #83 DACP with a W-8006 foam polishing pad. This combination of products and tools is safe and effective on just about any finish.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2006gettingbusywiththepc-med.jpg

Mike Phillips
Feb 29th, 2004, 05:35 PM
While the G-100 is an easy tool to use, (even your first time), it's still important to focus on the task at hand.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2007focusonthetaskathand-med.jpg

Mike Phillips
Feb 29th, 2004, 05:41 PM
After applying the NXT Tech Wax using the G-100 Dual Action Polisher and allowing it to dry for approximately 15 minutes, we put a new, dry W-8006 foam polishing pad onto the Velcro backing plate and slipped on a Meguiar’s M-9920 Ultimate Bonnet, (a microfiber polishing bonnet). These ultra soft microfiber polishing bonnets do and excellent job of remove the Tech Wax while leaving behind a clear, high gloss finish.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2008removingTechWaxwithPC-med.jpg

Mike Phillips
Feb 29th, 2004, 05:43 PM
Re-inspection of the surface reveals the water spots are gone…

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2009waterspostsgone-med.jpg

gb387
Feb 29th, 2004, 06:55 PM
Looks like a lot of fun. the drive for me is a killer!

Gonzo
Mar 1st, 2004, 11:35 AM
Sorry to have to correct you, Mike, but the Boss 5.4 IS NOT a Lightning! I'm afraid it the the poor cousin from the other side of the tracks.

This IS a Lightning, but I'm sure the SoCal Lightning owners set you straight....

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 11:58 AM
Thanks Gonzo.

Now for some more pictures from the event.

Here's a a member using the G-100 to apply NXT Tech Wax to his Ford Lightning Truck.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2010usingthepcforthefirsttime-med.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 12:29 PM
I'm pretty sure this was the first time this member had ever used a G-100 dual action polisher. Here he is using the M-9920 Ultimate bonnet, (a microfiber polish bonnet for removing polish and wax), to remove the NXT Tech Wax.

Notice how he has the electrical cord draped over his shoulder to prevent the cord from coming into contact with his Truck's finish.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2012removingNXTwithPCnoticecord-med.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 12:34 PM
The NXT Tech Wax and Meguiar's microfiber bonnet on a dual action polisher produces a mirror finish...

Check out the crystal clear reflection of the neon Meguiar's sign in the finish of the hood as well as the lights and the reel that holds the power cord after the Tech Wax has been removed.


http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2011removingNXTwithPC.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 12:50 PM
After he finished removing the Tech Wax, he pulled it back out into the parking lot to make room for the next person. I captured the below photo.

Not bad for one coat of Tech Wax.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2FordLightningTruckAfterNXT1.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 01:04 PM
Next two bright red Ford Lightning Trucks pulled into Meguiar's Garage for a NXT Tech Wax makeover.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2014nexttworedfords-med.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 01:07 PM
Here's a club member going to town on his finish using the G-100 dual action polisher to apply #83 DACP using a W-8006 foam polishing pad.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2015gettingbusywiththePC-med.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 01:09 PM
Here he is wiping the NXT Tech Wax off the finish, check out the extreme high gloss results...

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2016removingTechWax.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 01:11 PM
Here's what we call a beauty shot, and I don't mean him, I mean the high gloss, wet-looking reflection in the hood!

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2017beautyshot.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 01:13 PM
Here's the end result with tires dressed...

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2018finished.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 01:16 PM
At the same time, the other Ford Lightning Truck was getting the same treatment, here the owner is removing the Tech Wax with a microfiber... The color of this truck is Crimson Red, which was very different than the other red Ford Trucks here today.


Check out the extremely clear, high gloss results...


http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2018removingNXTbyhand.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 01:20 PM
Afterwards, the truck was pulled out for a beauty shot. Check out the trees reflection off the hood...

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2019afterNXT.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 01:22 PM
Here's another shot that shows the color of the paint really well...

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2020afterNXT.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 01:23 PM
Then even later, towards the end of the event, I was able to get both of the NXT'd trucks side-by-side...

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2021together.jpg

svt150tim
Mar 1st, 2004, 03:22 PM
Hey Mike, Tim here I belong to that Crimson Red 94. First a big thumbs up & thanks to an absolutely great Saturday. The knowledge and enthusiasm I took home is developing into something I had not expected, my neighbors and fellow workers want to bring their cars over to my house, lol.

However the wife has already placed dibs on her neglected 528 to be first. I will take some before & afters and post them.

Tim

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by svt150tim
Hey Mike, Tim here I belong to that Crimson Red 94. First a big thumbs up & thanks to an absolutely great Saturday. The knowledge and enthusiasm I took home is developing into something I had not expected, my neighbors and fellow workers want to bring their cars over to my house, lol.

However the wife has already placed dibs on her neglected 528 to be first. I will take some before & afters and post them.

Tim

Don't blame me.... :D


Seriously, I had just as good a time as everyone else and I appreciate so many serious enthusiasts coming on down to Meguiar’s Garage!

Stay tuned, more pictures of the even being uploaded as we speak.

Mike

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 04:38 PM
Meguiar's is all about sharing the passion and the pizza!

The passion side of Meguiar's is about the love we all share for our favorite cars specifically and the car hobby in general. The car hobby brings people together for good times and good food.

About the time we finished the above two red Ford Lightnings, the pizza was delivered. Time for some car talk amongst friends and to load up on some fuel so that we can keep on detailing!

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2022pizzafordtrucksandfriends.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by Svtlightning195
Well I would just like to say I had the pleasure of bringing in my Gen 1 Lightning and meeting these people, especially Mike Phillips. He was a very cool guy and has given me the secrets to restore my paint. Before I talked with him today I was ready to get it repainted, he proved to me I can restore my old paint with the right "recipe" and some dedication. All I can say is thank You very much, Id love to bring the truck by again after I do the whole thing as we did to the passenger door and have you overlook what I did.

Hi Svtlightning195,

Your truck was a challenge… but… I love a challenge. I’m sorry that I couldn’t help you to buff out the entire truck, it will take a some time and some patience to finish the job.

Just so everyone can see what were talking about, below are some before pictures.

Something happened to the engine that caused oil to be splattered all over the outside of the front fenders and both doors. A well meaning friend tried to help out by spraying a strong degreaser all over the paint. While the degreaser may have greatly helped to remove the oil, it also left the clear coat, (over black), stained in such a way that the stains appeared white. The problem is that the staining isn’t *on* the paint, it’s *in* the paint.

Here are some before pictures,

Drivers door
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2025whitestainbefore4-med.jpg

Drivers Door Close-up
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2026whitestainbefore5.jpg

Passenger Door

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2027whitestainbeforecloseup1-med.jpg



First we tried using
ScratchX (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=G-103) by hand. While this removed some of the staining and restored a more clear finish, it isn’t wasn’t enough to bring it to acceptable standards.

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 06:13 PM
Because these stains are in the paint and not merely sitting on the top surface of the paint, in order to remove them, we were going to have to try something a little more aggressive than ScratchX by hand.

Experience told me it would require a rotary buffer and probably
Meguiar's W-7006 foam cutting pad (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=W-70) with either a cleaner/polish or a compound.

Meguiar's always says, "Use the least aggressive product to get the job done"

(The reason for this is to remove as little paint as possible while still removing the defect).

With this philosophy in mind, I chose the Meguiar's #83 Dual Action Cleaner Polish (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=M-83). I know some people may have started right off with the Meguiar’s #84 Compound Power Cleaner (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=M-84), I wanted to try the #83 DACP first just to see if this would remove the staining while keeping with Meguiar’s philosophy.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2rotarybufferonwhitestains6-med.jpg

In the photo above, if you look close, I'm using the foam pad on it's edge to get in real close around the door lock and do some focused work in tight area. Later, I would make some cover passes holding my pad flat in these same areas.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2rotarybufferonwhitestains7-med.jpg

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2rotarybufferonwhitestains4-med.jpg

After massaging the paint in and around the door handle and the door lock areas with the maroon foam cutting pad, I then re-buffed the area with the rotary buffer again, only this time I substituted a softer buffing pad, Meguiar's W-8006 polishing pad (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=W-80) and again used the #83 DACP.

After the above procedures, I then had the owner apply the NXT Tech Wax using the G-100 dual action polisher, and a W-8006 foam polishing pad that was dedicated for the NXT Tech Wax.

Rockpick
Mar 1st, 2004, 07:03 PM
I'm incredibly jealous.

The 94 L looks SUPER!!!!! The Lightning Owners are typically a lively bunch... From past experience, you will be hard pressed to find a more dedicated group of guys and gals.

The trucks look excellent! Great job folks!

RP :D

1 Clean WS6
Mar 1st, 2004, 07:47 PM
AWESOME shine on an AWESOME group of trucks!!:D

I hope that California folks realize how good they have it!! Then again I guess having the Meg's headquarters right in your backyard is a fair tradeoff for having to deal with the Hollywood loonies!!:eek:

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 09:46 PM
Here's some reflection shots of the passenger's door after buffing out the stains and applying the NXT Tech Wax.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2028whitestaingone2.jpg

Here's another,

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2029whitestainsgone1.jpg

and one more,

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2030whitestaingone3.jpg

These after photo's have a little bit of a blue hue to them, to me this indicates that I didn't do a white balance before taking the shots. It was also late into the day, after 5:00pm I think and the sun was setting.

In reality, the paint is back to it's normal black color. Perhaps the owner can upload, or e-mail me a photo that shows the results in better light.

Also note in the last photo above, if you look towards the top of the door, you can still see some of the staining. I didn't spend much time in this area moslty because it was a very busy day and I had a lot of members that wanted to bring their trucks in for some detailing work. Mostly I buffed around the door lock just to see if it could be fixed without repainting.

Mike

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 09:50 PM
Again,

Here's before...

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2027whitestainbeforecloseup1-med.jpg

and here's after...

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2029whitestainsgone1-med.jpg

Mike

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 11:34 PM
I don't remember how many trucks we worked on in total, I do know that as fast as one would pull out, another would pull in.

Here two guys go after the bonded contaminants using Meguiar's Clay bars and Quik Detailer.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2001blueFordgettingclayed-med.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 11:36 PM
After claying the finish, a single coat of NXT Tech Wax was applied using the G-100 dual action polisher. The truck was then pulled out into the sun for inspection...

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2003blueafternxt2.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 11:55 PM
Here a club member can be seen removing NXT Tech Wax using a microfiber polishing cloth after first removing many of the swirls and scratches using the G-100 and #83 DACP.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2005removingtheDACP.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 11:57 PM
As he pulls his truck out of the garage you can easily see the high gloss results...


http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2006afterNXT.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 1st, 2004, 11:58 PM
Here it is in full sun...

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2007afterNXT-med.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 2nd, 2004, 12:02 AM
Here one young man demonstrates just how easy the G-100 is to use as he buffs out the hood of his truck using only one hand to control the polisher...

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2008onehandedbuffing.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 2nd, 2004, 12:14 AM
With a truck, there are really only two large horizontal panels to be concerned with, the hood and the roof, (unless you have a painted hard Tonneau cover). For this reason, we only buffed-out and applied the NXT Tech Wax to the hoods on most of the trucks here on that day. By doing this, we could focus our attentions on the panel that takes a majority of the abuse, wear and tear, and is also typically the most scrutinized panel on the truck. This also allowed us to push more trucks through the garage in one day. This also provided plenty of time for members to get a good feel for the porter cable dual action polisher and a few other Meguiar’s products and producing professional results.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2009redtruckgettingtheNXTtreatment.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 2nd, 2004, 12:16 AM
Here the owner of this truck uses a Meguiar's microfiber polishing bonnet to remove the NXT Tech Wax.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2010removingNXTwithprototypebonnet-med.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 2nd, 2004, 12:19 AM
The sun cooperated on this day, which made for some good pictures showing real results...

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2oneshinyredFord-med.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 2nd, 2004, 12:20 AM
Here's three trucks in a row all with the NXT Tech Wax on them...

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2threeshinytrucksafterNXT.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 2nd, 2004, 12:33 AM
One thing that's nice about attending a Detail Day at Meguiar's is that it provides people with a chance to try out products that they’ve read about, but have not decided to purchased yet.

Here's Chris trying out the Meguiar's #38 Tire and Trim Dressing Gel on the hard plastic trim on the rear bumper.

How's it looking Chris?

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2chrisapplyingM38-med.jpg

Mike Phillips
Mar 2nd, 2004, 12:35 AM
More to come tomorrow like the, Side-by-Side before & after demonstration on this completely abused finish...

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2001whitebeforeandafter.jpg

Wait till you see the after pictures!

fordboards
Mar 2nd, 2004, 07:08 AM
Very cool! :cool:

cteselle
Mar 5th, 2004, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by Mike Phillips
One thing that's nice about attending a Detail Day at Meguiar's is that it provides people with a chance to try out products that they’ve read about, but have not decided to purchased yet.

Here's Chris trying out the Meguiar's #38 Tire and Trim Dressing Gel on the hard plastic trim on the rear bumper.

How's it looking Chris?

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2chrisapplyingM38-med.jpg

It's still looking great!

I really appreciate the time that you spent with our club, I think all that attended got quite a bit out of it!

Looking forward to seeing more picts, these are great!

Mike Phillips
Mar 5th, 2004, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by cteselle
Looking forward to seeing more picts, these are great!

I still have 20-30 more pictures to upload including some before and after pictures of your black Ford Lightning Truck. I'll try to carve out some time today.

Mike

madtremor
Mar 7th, 2004, 07:52 PM
Looks like a great turn out. My next ride when my Ranger is paid off is either a Lightning or new body style Mustang("05 and up). With all of the tips I learn from everybody I might even be brave and buy black.

Teak
Mar 13th, 2004, 09:20 PM
I always liked the Lightnings.

Mike,
Would one of Meguiars paint cleaners such MPPC, ColorX, Body scrub or DC cleaner have worked on the truck with degreaser staining?

Eric

99BlackStangMan
Mar 14th, 2004, 06:42 PM
Sorry if this is off topic, but do you hold events in VA anywhere? Mustang shows anytime?? JW!:D

cteselle
Apr 5th, 2004, 02:24 PM
Mike,

Is there a way you can send me all the picts? I'd love to put the ones that you have posted here, as well as the others that you haven't had a chance to post, on our clubs website. The bigger the better! :D

Let me know...

thanks!

chris

Mike Phillips
Apr 5th, 2004, 02:51 PM
Hi Chris,

I will try to upload some more pictures to this thread tonight. I find that right after the event, I have a window of opportunity to upload the pictures, after about 24 to 48 hours, I get so bogged down with other priorities, that it becomes quite difficult to get back to it.

If I e-mail you the photo's, are you on Cable, or DSL?

I have a lot of photos and some are quite large. If I just finish uploading the photo's I have at 700 pixels wide to my gallery, can you just link to those?

Over 700 pixels wide and you start to force people to horizontal scroll, unless they have a monster monitor.

Mike

cteselle
Apr 5th, 2004, 03:04 PM
Yeah I have broadband, so file sizes are not an issue. I can PM you an email address to send them to if you want to go that route.