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richie
Dec 14th, 2006, 02:16 AM
I know the M83 is the cleaner/polish but I have the Deep Crystal Cleaner and Polish at home. Using the M83 would save time and kill 2 steps at once, but would doing the cleaner then polish give better results? Separating the steps is suppose to give better results right.....and how much better? one pass VS two passes.... bottom line is, will I be able to tell the difference between using M83 VS Deep Crystal cleaner then polish?

gb387
Dec 14th, 2006, 05:22 AM
Assuming you are doing this with a PC, are you trying to remove swirls and fine scratches? If you are Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner is a very gentle cleaner and may not be strong enough for the job. Deep Crystal Polish is a pure polish. #83 is a cleaner polish like you have mentioned but it is better suited to remove swirls and scratches.

E-Jag
Dec 14th, 2006, 11:08 AM
In addition to what gb387 posted, you likely wouldn't save any time with #83 because while it is a stronger cleaner/polish and better suited to mremoving scratches/swirls than DC 1, it often leaves it's own swirls or imperfections, which then have to be removed by another product, such as #80. You may be better off starting with #80 before stepping up to #83.

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Murr1525
Dec 14th, 2006, 11:16 AM
:iagree:

#83 is a medium strength cleaner/polish, while #80 is mild.

Some people will use #80, and then go on to a pure polish like #7 before waxing.

Another option, if your car is well maintained, no swirls to remove, etc, is to apply #82. It is a very mild cleaner/polish, and should give a nice look if you dont have much cleaning to do.

E-Jag
Dec 14th, 2006, 11:26 AM
If, as Murr1525 mentioned, the paint is in pretty good shape, you might be able to get by with ColorX, which is an excellent cleaner wax.

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richie
Dec 14th, 2006, 12:58 PM
thanks for all the great info guys....

I think my paint is in decent condition. My car is 2 years old and always garaged so I think I'm just looking for something to remove light scratches. I'm a noob to the PC so the mildest solution would probably be the best.

So my options are #80, #82, or ColorX ...

is there any downside to just starting out with the DC1 on the PC to see how the results are? or would I just be wasting time and material?

Tungsten
Dec 14th, 2006, 01:08 PM
In addition to what gb387 posted, you likely wouldn't save any time with #83 because while it is a stronger cleaner/polish and better suited to mremoving scratches/swirls than DC 1, it often leaves it's own swirls or imperfections, which then have to be removed by another product, such as #80. You may be better off starting with #80 before stepping up to #83.

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E-Jag
I think you have that order backwards. You would want to go with #83 first and then step down to #80. 80 will smooth out the results from 83, and give you a better shine. Follow it up with the LSP of your choice.

SUBARU WRX
Dec 14th, 2006, 03:11 PM
My Friend Did That To His Truck And It Looks Really Good.

CleanGSR
Dec 14th, 2006, 04:17 PM
I think you have that order backwards. You would want to go with #83 first and then step down to #80. 80 will smooth out the results from 83, and give you a better shine. Follow it up with the LSP of your choice.

I think what he's saying is to try 80 and see if that does the job before going with 83. If 80 does the trick 83 wouldn't be needed at all.

richie
Dec 18th, 2006, 12:47 AM
okay, so my PC is almost here.... can I apply the DC series with the PC? this is my first time so I want to see what kind of results I could get with the weakest stuff out there.... just in case I mess up or something

richie
Dec 18th, 2006, 07:30 PM
nevermind... Mike answered the question in

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17469

sorry, didnt see that guys