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d.mopar
Mar 20th, 2007, 05:08 PM
who think there should be chatrooms on MOL. maybe even video chat but thats a little to much. there should be chatroom based on products etc, just like the forums.

Mike Phillips
Apr 10th, 2007, 08:48 AM
Not a big fan of chat rooms, but would like to see what other people say?

Actually only been in a chat room twice, once on Autopia and was bored in a few seconds and left, anther time just to snag screen shots to use in a Power Point Presentation to show the difference between a "Chat Room" and a "Discussion Forum".

Thejoyofdriving
Apr 10th, 2007, 09:25 AM
I think a chat room would be nice.

Murr1525
Apr 10th, 2007, 09:26 AM
I gotta say no.. having everything recorded, and easily useable for all connection speeds, is the entire idea of this.

Just as it is important to get all the opinions and insight recorded, it is important to get any rudeness recorded, so no bad impressions are left.

gb387
Apr 10th, 2007, 02:39 PM
I thought I replied to this already!?!

Anyway... as I said before I don't care for chat rooms. I think a forum can act as a chat room you just need someone on the other end to chat with (just like a actual chat room) and as mentioned above everything is documented for anyone to come back and look at or reference again.

kellyinkc
Apr 10th, 2007, 03:23 PM
Chat rooms can open the door to no good. I voted no. Open forum is better. Everybody benefits.

Tim Lingor
Apr 10th, 2007, 03:41 PM
From a Moderator's point of view, chat rooms are a nightmare!

Remember, Meguiar's is a family friendly forum, and you just know, someone would lose their temper or say something incorrect about CC finishes for example etc leading to a big dispute that must be moderated and dealt with.

Tim

Lydia
Apr 10th, 2007, 06:28 PM
Chat rooms are horrible to moderate. Also, they tend to go off topic easily, and might head to touchy subjects such as religion or politics.

As gb387 said, forums can act as chat rooms anyways.

OT but didn't someone just start a thread like this??

gb387
Apr 10th, 2007, 06:43 PM
Chat rooms are horrible to moderate. Also, they tend to go off topic easily, and might head to touchy subjects such as religion or politics.

As gb387 said, forums can act as chat rooms anyways.

OT but didn't someone just start a thread like this??

I thought I was dreaming.... must be two threads anyway.

Looks like we are 'chating'! :D

Tim Lingor
Apr 10th, 2007, 08:02 PM
I thought I was dreaming.... must be two threads anyway.

Looks like we are 'chating'! :D

I have closed the other thread so the feeling of Deja Vu should subside. :)

Tim

J. A. Michaels
Apr 11th, 2007, 07:16 AM
I personally have zero problems with the way this forum is set up. Why mess with a good thing. Just 0.02.

Newport Viper
Apr 18th, 2007, 08:47 AM
Not a fan of chat room idea....

rascal
Apr 19th, 2007, 05:30 PM
Nah, I hate chat rooms. I use to do it when I was in my early twenties, but not anymore. I would like to see some Meguiar's classes on line though. :cool:

Mark2
Apr 19th, 2007, 09:33 PM
Why not, does it take something away from you who voted NO??

acsuppa
Apr 24th, 2007, 02:46 PM
I don't feel that there ia a need for a chat room. I think this is one of the best set up forums out there. Enjoy it as it is.

GSKTech
May 1st, 2007, 03:02 AM
Most of the information & questions new users have,
have already been answered and are easily searchable.

Chat rooms have no archival properties.
Chat rooms would take moderators attention away from these forums
and therefore the forums would go downhill (speculation on my part)

There are already enough chat rooms around.


Therefore I vote No.


However, it would be nice to see video's of Meguiar's classes or evening events. (wink wink)
Not neccesarily live feeds, it could be recorded ...

my 2 cents

Ross Conradi
Feb 15th, 2008, 08:41 AM
Hi all, I just wanted to toss in a few things since I have extensive experience in chat situations on chat rooms, instant messaging groups, team speak/ventrilo and in online games.

Conversations in text only chat rooms can and should be logged at all times, the logs would be available for review, posting in the forum etc. Logging video or voice chat is problematic making video/voice chat, in my opinion, not worthwhile for MOL.

Live chat is definitely much more challenging to moderate, and it would require members of the community to step-up (even more than now) to aid in moderating and "policing" live chat or it could become a mire of ugly flaming and worse.

Chat rooms (especially video/voice chat) require substantial bandwidth on the server side. Before Meguiar's would be able to create live chat for MOL, quality hosting for the service(s) would have to be secured and budget found to pay for it.

So this isn't something we will "dive" into quickly, but will have to do a lot of research and planning to do should the decision ever come to introduce live chat to MOL.

It's great hearing from you all on this, it's a very intriguing topic. :)

**Your friendly neighborhood Webmaster -- Ross**

mattaleca
Feb 15th, 2008, 09:05 AM
I think chat rooms are a mistake. It just makes everything more confusing. "If it ain't broke why fix it!"

Andy M.
Apr 11th, 2008, 03:03 PM
I have to vote NO on the chatroom idea also.

Andy
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cv_soccer
Apr 12th, 2008, 08:49 PM
Also not a big fan of 'simple' chat rooms but a live web cam of your Saturday ‘Detailing Class Schedule (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20684)’ would be great!

Brents Classic Custom Detail
Apr 15th, 2008, 08:51 AM
About chatrooms...
Good idea to me, it's got my vote but mabye a screening process? Making sure members can "clean out" any "DIRTY PARTICLES"???

gtomike7635
May 4th, 2008, 08:20 AM
I think a chat room would be great. There comes times when you may need just a guick question and answer to something. Just keep it moderated with the same general rules that apply to the forum. Bad conduct and you are banned and that's it!

Mike

Kevin Brown
May 30th, 2008, 06:18 PM
Hate to mess up the best wax forum out there...
Sounds like too much work for the Moderators.

Is there a way to do a 'controlled' chatroom?

What I mean is-
Suppose one week Mike Phillips & Tim aka 2hotford do the equivalent of an online interview, with Joe of Superior Shine as the guest.

The duo asks question, Joe responds, and this goes on and on (as does a standard interview).

Afterwards, could you open the interview for a Q&A session for MOL members?
Could you pick and choose who you'd like to chime in?

Maybe it would be a chat-session one night per week, couple hours-worth.
Perhaps other responsible MOL guys could moderate?
To aid in sharing the workload for Tim & Mike...

yalerd
Jun 5th, 2008, 06:25 AM
Hate to mess up the best wax forum out there...
Sounds like too much work for the Moderators.

Is there a way to do a 'controlled' chatroom?

What I mean is-
Suppose one week Mike Phillips & Tim aka 2hotford do the equivalent of an online interview, with Joe of Superior Shine as the guest.

The duo asks question, Joe responds, and this goes on and on (as does a standard interview).

Afterwards, could you open the interview for a Q&A session for MOL members?
Could you pick and choose who you'd like to chime in?

Maybe it would be a chat-session one night per week, couple hours-worth.
Perhaps other responsible MOL guys could moderate?
To aid in sharing the workload for Tim & Mike...

:thinking1
Sounds like a good idea to me!

TxRado
Jun 10th, 2008, 03:59 PM
Video chats would be outstanding! I watched all the videos on youtube of the meguiars workshops and would love to interact with Mike and the rest of the group since I don't live in cali.

christian6984
Jul 15th, 2008, 06:04 AM
we have one over on detailing world, but have never used it (probably good if u need a question answered superfast)

Ryan L.
Oct 15th, 2008, 11:39 AM
Sorry to bring this back, but in my opinion it wouldn't be all that bad. Here's my thoughts on the subject. I know that Autopia has one, so I think one could be implemented easily onto MOL.

I think that if we had one as kind of a "emergency quesitons" forum, that would help people with immediate questions or even new comers. I think a lot of people would know how to use a chat box rather than post a new thread in the correct forum. So if maybe there was a new member on the forum wanting to find where to post something, somebody could chime in and point them in the right direction. How many times have you seen Mike, Mark, Andy and previously Tim, post on a introduction thread "moved to the proper forum." I think it would greatly reduce the need for that and possibly some other things such as posting pictures, speed settings, etc.

I know when I first started out, I always had that quick question about what speed to use so and so product on. If somebody would just want to know that answer real quick instead of trying to use the hit and miss search fuction on this forum, they could just type it in and somebody would respond.

About moderation, I know Ross said that the text in the chat box can be saved incase there ever was a issue, but I think as long as you are a registared member of the forum, there shouldn't be too many issues. If there are, just take the chat box down. You never know untill you try right?

Ryan

Markus Kleis
Nov 4th, 2008, 12:08 AM
The biggest downside i can see to a forum or chat room is that the discussions are temporary, and then lost. With the forum you get to save the information so people can find the information with searches later with some sort of valid sorting taking place.

I do think a form of "hosted discussion" or interviews, much like Barry Meguiar does on his Car Crazy show would be quite fun and interesting.

Andy M.
Feb 5th, 2009, 06:06 PM
Sorry to bring this back, but in my opinion it wouldn't be all that bad. Here's my thoughts on the subject. I know that Autopia has one, so I think one could be implemented easily onto MOL.

I think that if we had one as kind of a "emergency quesitons" forum, that would help people with immediate questions or even new comers. I think a lot of people would know how to use a chat box rather than post a new thread in the correct forum. So if maybe there was a new member on the forum wanting to find where to post something, somebody could chime in and point them in the right direction. How many times have you seen Mike, Mark, Andy and previously Tim, post on a introduction thread "moved to the proper forum." I think it would greatly reduce the need for that and possibly some other things such as posting pictures, speed settings, etc.

I know when I first started out, I always had that quick question about what speed to use so and so product on. If somebody would just want to know that answer real quick instead of trying to use the hit and miss search fuction on this forum, they could just type it in and somebody would respond.

About moderation, I know Ross said that the text in the chat box can be saved incase there ever was a issue, but I think as long as you are a registared member of the forum, there shouldn't be too many issues. If there are, just take the chat box down. You never know untill you try right?

Ryan


I like the idea of an emergency forum where newer members or someone who has a "wax emergency" could go and ask a quick question and get an answer right away. The problem still remains that someone, a mod, would have to be in the chat room at all times to make sure things didn't go awry.

Not that I am opposed to it, it would just be difficult to watch all the time with everything else that we do behind the scenes checking and reading posts, answering questions, etc.:work1

Andy

ClearlyCoated
Mar 31st, 2009, 04:02 PM
The biggest downside i can see to a forum or chat room is that the discussions are temporary, and then lost. With the forum you get to save the information so people can find the information with searches later with some sort of valid sorting taking place.

I do think a form of "hosted discussion" or interviews, much like Barry Meguiar does on his Car Crazy show would be quite fun and interesting.
Good point and one that I hadn't considered when I voted. I have saved so many URL's of threads from MOL and e-mailed them to myself, I had to create a separate folder for them my hotmail account.

That Sam Guy
Mar 31st, 2009, 04:09 PM
I personally have zero problems with the way this forum is set up. Why mess with a good thing. Just 0.02.
:iagree:

HCAD
Jul 13th, 2009, 06:22 PM
I like the forum as is ... I also like the chat room my local Mazda club has on their forum. Works very well for our group. Admittedly, we are a bit smaller in number.

Bill Davidson
Aug 2nd, 2010, 10:33 AM
While I'm not opposed to chat rooms they represent the opposite of what a forum is all about. This is an archive... a wealth of data and info. We can explore topics in more depth. We can take time to research and reflect on ideas.

Chat rooms are totally different animals. Between check new posts, and PM real time communication is almost available, but forums offer so much more.

You would never see quality posts like we see in the "Show off you Lastest Work" threads.

Mark58
Apr 22nd, 2011, 02:43 PM
I thought I replied to this already!?!

Anyway... as I said before I don't care for chat rooms. I think a forum can act as a chat room you just need someone on the other end to chat with (just like a actual chat room) and as mentioned above everything is documented for anyone to come back and look at or reference again.
NO! chat room only records and keeps data for few hrs as set by Admin. on VBulitin.