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michaeld0983
Feb 7th, 2008, 01:47 AM
Which Rotary Buffer Should I Purchase?

I have plan to buy a new rotary polisher. These are my candidates:

Dewalt
Makita
Flex
Metabo

Can you guy, share your experience working with those tools, +/- between them.

Thanks

ZoranC
Feb 7th, 2008, 10:39 AM
DeWalt is too heavy for my taste. I liked Makita both ergonomic wise and weight wise, but between Makita and Hitachi I liked Hitachi more. Flex has two rotary models, so question is which one you have in mind. I did not have a chance to try either one, but looking at specs one is too heavy for my taste and other one, while being very light, one of lightest I know of, has RPMs starting at 1100 and some do not like that.

I have owned Metabo briefly and disliked it's ergonomics/appropach, I was finding it a very poor fit to a clumsy beginner like me. Few very advanced rotary users I trust have felt same.

Right now I own Hitachi and I like it's ergonomics, weight, and specs. However, recently I had a chance to very briefly play with Dynabrade rotary and I like it very very much. Enough that I will be, money permitting, upgrading from my Hitachi to Dynabrade.

dietoremain
Feb 7th, 2008, 12:15 PM
I have a hitachi. Great machine for a great price. :)

Ticman
Feb 7th, 2008, 02:09 PM
I agree with the above. I have a Makita 9227 and really like it. I have used a friends Hitachi SP18VA I think was the model number. The Hitachi seemed to be lighter of the two. Both are very good machines.

Tic

michaeld0983
Feb 7th, 2008, 07:25 PM
I think about flex lk603vvb. The weight is about 7.5 lbs. Is it a good machine?

ZoranC
Feb 7th, 2008, 11:43 PM
I think about flex lk603vvb. The weight is about 7.5 lbs. Is it a good machine?
Flex is a reputable company so very likely it is a reliable machine. However, it is not one I would be choosing myself for reasons explained above.

PorscheGuy997
Feb 8th, 2008, 08:23 AM
I think we need to start a member poll to see what everyone uses.

Here's a list of manufacturers: Dewalt, Makita, Porter Cable, Milwaukee, Flex, Dynabrade, Metabo, Fein, Hitachi, and Chicago Electric.

If you own a rotary brand that is not on the list of ones mentioned, feel free to respond.

michaeld0983
Feb 8th, 2008, 08:54 AM
I think we need to start a member poll to see what everyone uses.

Here's a list of manufacturers: Dewalt, Makita, Porter Cable, Milwaukee, Flex, Dynabrade, Metabo, Fein, Hitachi, and Chicago Electric.

If you own a rotary brand that is not on the list of ones mentioned, feel free to respond.

Agree:)

Mike Phillips
Feb 8th, 2008, 09:10 AM
Personal recommendation...

Get a rotary buffer with a stick handle or a stick handle and the option for a hoop handle, don't get a hoop handle model unless you also get a stick handle to go with it.

After hours and hours of buffing, your muscles that runs down your forearm will get fatigued more using a hoop handle versus a stick handle. Just an opinion based upon experience, your mileage may vary but that's why it's nice to have the option. Makita offers a package like this, i.e. both options.

Another thing I would look for is the top of the head unit, my old Makita has a rubber block so that if you turn the buffer upside and rest it on the car, it's resting on rubber, not metal. It also gives your hand something to grip against when holding the buffer without either handle.

I personally don't use a handle at all anymore, so a buffing head that is comfortable and easy to grip with your hand is a nice feature.

Again... just my own personal insights based upon experience, you're mileage may and probably will vary...

:coolgleam

michaeld0983
Feb 8th, 2008, 09:29 AM
thanks mike. great advise :bigups

Erik Mejia
Feb 8th, 2008, 09:35 AM
I own a Makita, and personally I love it. I've tried the Dewalt and although it got the job done I still prefer my Makita. Personal choice I guess, try and see if you can try them out before you decide.

Daniel Kinder
Feb 8th, 2008, 03:53 PM
I've got a makita and just bought another one just for polishing bare aluminum.
Use a dewalt at work and just got use to it, thinking about getting one of these when extra money allows just for the compounding step on aluminum.
both are completely different but at the same time they are just two great machines.
Mike phillips you are the reason I started using the rotary and G100 without the handles(it's much better), and sometimes I've tried to use them with the handles from time to time and it just don't feel right! like it doesn't belong with them.
When I use my rotary without the handles I don't have any problems with them what so ever but then when I try it's like I don't have a clue of what I'm doing:LOLOL:anyways my two cents.

PorscheGuy997
Feb 8th, 2008, 04:44 PM
I've had two Makita 9227C's; one was used, but it ran like a champ (now owned by Joe's Detailing) and the other was used once. You can get a used one for about $100 and an almost new one with bag for $130.


This poll is turning out to be really interesting. There really doesn't seem to be one brand that stands out significantly than all the others. Cool!!!!

Tim Lingor
Feb 8th, 2008, 05:08 PM
Hey,

I have and use 3 rotaries: Makita 9207, Makita 9227 and a Dewalt 849.

I use the Dewalt for compounding and leave it set up for that use. I use the Makita's for polishing. Both brands are fantastic, though I would give the edge for heavy dutiness to the Dewalt and the older 9207 Makita which is built like a tank!

Tim

michaeld0983
Feb 8th, 2008, 08:13 PM
thanks for the reply guys, perhaps in next 3 months i'll buy one, still saving money right now. Keep sharing your experience with rotary guys. Thanks

Nappers
Feb 9th, 2008, 01:12 AM
Harbor Freight special for me. Works so far with buffing my headlights and taillights and using a cheapie wool pad on the '66.

Can't wait for the weather to get better to practice some more.

Aaron

J. A. Michaels
Feb 9th, 2008, 06:05 AM
I plan on getting the Chicago Electric brand next month. Just going to use it for personal use. Already talked to a friend of mine that owns a local salvage yard. He's going to let me have a hood or 2 to practice on.

michaeld0983
Feb 9th, 2008, 06:50 AM
I plan on getting the Chicago Electric brand next month. Just going to use it for personal use. Already talked to a friend of mine that owns a local salvage yard. He's going to let me have a hood or 2 to practice on.
keep sharing your experiment on those hood :)

Justin Murphy
Feb 11th, 2008, 03:33 AM
The Chicago Electric model is really decent.......especially for 30.00. I've had mine for a year now and done numerous vehicles with it. It does have low torque and a finicky dial though. In all though, a good tool for weekend warriors and rotary beginners.

I'm with ZoranC on the Flex though. The new model is only 4.9 pounds and looks to be a workhorse. At 199.99, it's a wonderful deal!

Here's the one we are talking about.......

FLEX L3403VRG 6" POLISHER
- FLEX seven-fold microprocessor electronics: with consistent speed control by tachometer generator, soft start, accelerator trigger switch, restart protection after power interruption, overload protection, temperature monitoring, and speed selection - High-powered motor: can handle extreme loads - Spindle lock: for easy disc changes - Quality shut-off carbon brushes: if the carbon brushes wear down, the motor will be automatically switched off and thus protected from damage - Bail handle - 4 m power cord: with FLEX red plug - 10-Foot power cord

http://shop.pwr-house.com/images/1201889237024-1302239726.jpeg

michaeld0983
Feb 11th, 2008, 10:31 AM
corrct me if i'm wrong, the minimum speed is 1100 rpm right? is it a good idea? what about flex lk603?

Justin Murphy
Feb 11th, 2008, 11:53 AM
Well I already never go below 1000rpms anyways. It's like speeds 1 and 2 on the PC......never touch them.

I think 1100rpm is fine to start out with. If it wasn't then why would such a reputable company make it that way?

michaeld0983
Feb 11th, 2008, 07:40 PM
I think 1100rpm is fine to start out with. If it wasn't then why would such a reputable company make it that way?
make sense:idea:

g88
Feb 14th, 2008, 06:53 PM
I agree with the above. I have a Makita 9227 and really like it. I have used a friends Hitachi SP18VA I think was the model number. The Hitachi seemed to be lighter of the two. Both are very good machines.

Tic

I am in the dilemma of getting one of this...can someone tell me whats the RPM of each speed for both Hitachi and Makita ?

Makita selling in Malaysia is around Rm830 and Hitachi is around Rm530 or 630.

How about noise level of both ?

g88
Feb 14th, 2008, 07:17 PM
Sorry for off topic.

I am currently have W8006/9006 with M80 n M83. so when i get a rotary later. Is that neccessary to get W7006 pad as well to pair with M80/83 ? What would be the result like ? Izzit advisable ?

Actually when i think getting W7006, was thinking to get M105 or 95 or 85 in future ?

Any advice to this ?

KrisMas
Feb 14th, 2008, 07:21 PM
I am in the dilemma of getting one of this...can someone tell me whats the RPM of each speed for both Hitachi and Makita ?

Makita selling in Malaysia is around Rm830 and Hitachi is around Rm530 or 630.

How about noise level of both ?

I've also shortlisted my choice to Makita, Hitachi and Dewalt. Would also really like to know the noise levels between the three since I'm living in a quite neighborhood and will not be working in a garage.

sstg
Feb 14th, 2008, 07:50 PM
Does any one have them in stock? Looks to be sold out everywhere. Also where are they at for $199.00? Thanks.

Tim Lingor
Feb 14th, 2008, 07:57 PM
I've also shortlisted my choice to Makita, Hitachi and Dewalt. Would also really like to know the noise levels between the three since I'm living in a quite neighborhood and will not be working in a garage.


I can not comment on the Hitachi as I do not own one, but between the Makita and the Dewalt, whcih I do own and use all the time, the Dewalt is louder to me...

Tim

C30-Mike
Feb 14th, 2008, 07:59 PM
I have a Chicago Electric and its an art trying to use it. Machine gets inconsistant results and speed.
Hitachi is a truely tuned machine after testing it out. Very silky smooth and quiet. A no brainer.

Tim Lingor
Feb 14th, 2008, 08:09 PM
I can not comment on the Hitachi as I do not own one, but between the Makita and the Dewalt, whcih I do own and use all the time, the Dewalt is louder to me...

Tim

Ok, curiousity got to me. So I pulled out my Radio Shack Sound Level Meter, set it to "C" weighting, and Slow Response, set it 3 feet from buffer:

Dewalt at 1500 rpm: 84 db

Makita at 1500 rpm (speed 3): 76 db

That is a substantial difference!!

So there you have it! :D

Tim

michaeld0983
Feb 15th, 2008, 01:38 AM
Ok, curiousity got to me. So I pulled out my Radio Shack Sound Level Meter, set it to "C" weighting, and Slow Response, set it 3 feet from buffer:

Dewalt at 1500 rpm: 84 db

Makita at 1500 rpm (speed 3): 76 db

That is a substantial difference!!

So there you have it! :D

Tim
Good review!:bow:bow:bow

Tim Lingor
Feb 15th, 2008, 06:45 AM
Good review!:bow:bow:bow

You are welcome! :)

I too was always curious as well. I knew it was louder but that was my subjective opinion. So I thought, what the heck, let's find out.... :D :D :D

Tim

KrisMas
Feb 15th, 2008, 06:52 AM
Good review!:bow:bow:bow

Wow. Same here :bigups:bigups:bigups:bow:bow:bow. Whataguy. You're really out of this world Tim.

Tom Weed
Feb 15th, 2008, 07:39 AM
I just bought this Flex polisher a couple weeks ago, light weight and has plenty of power. I would say to someone who gets worn out from using a rotary, this thing is a good alternative. I've been working on a black Impalla that's in my garage with 105 and a white Lake County pad and it works like a charm.


http://shop.pwr-house.com/product.sc?categoryId=4&productId=16

michaeld0983
Feb 15th, 2008, 07:45 AM
I just bought this Flex polisher a couple weeks ago, light weight and has plenty of power. I would say to someone who gets worn out from using a rotary, this thing is a good alternative. I've been working on a black Impalla that's in my garage with 105 and a white Lake County pad and it works like a charm.


http://shop.pwr-house.com/product.sc?categoryId=4&productId=16
what type of flex that you bought? the light one or the other?

michaeld0983
Feb 15th, 2008, 07:50 AM
what type of flex that you bought? the light one or the other?
l3404? I don't have any experience with LC pads, can you tell me the equivalent between LC pads and megs Pad?

Tom Weed
Feb 15th, 2008, 08:05 AM
The one I have is a L3403 and it works with both the the LC-CCS 6.5 inch pads or the meguiars 6.5" pads. I just happened to buy some last time from ADS and the white one works really well with the 105.

Tom

Hemin8r
Feb 15th, 2008, 09:42 AM
I love my Makita. I feel the Dewalt is a bit heavier making it more difficult for me to work on the side panels.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8726584@N06/2262351991/" title="My Best Friend by Hemin8r, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2374/2262351991_be6702856f.jpg" width="334" height="500" alt="My Best Friend" /></a>

michaeld0983
Feb 15th, 2008, 09:43 AM
megs have w700x cutting pad, is it same in aggresivness with LC yellow cutting pad? w800x with LC white polishing pad or w900x with LC blue finishing pad?

michaeld0983
Feb 15th, 2008, 09:44 AM
I love my Makita. I feel the Dewalt is a bit heavier making it more difficult for me to work on the side panels.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2374/2262351991_be6702856f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8726584@N06/2262351991/)
it seems that you use adaptor to work with meguiar backing plate? is that true?

Hemin8r
Feb 15th, 2008, 09:50 AM
it seems that you use adaptor to work with meguiar backing plate? is that true?

Yes, that's an adapter that I have.

Tom Weed
Feb 15th, 2008, 10:59 AM
megs have w700x cutting pad, is it same in aggresivness with LC yellow cutting pad? w800x with LC white polishing pad or w900x with LC blue finishing pad?

Not sure about the LC yellow pad versus the meguiars marroon pad, but I would say the white LC pad is close to the meguiars yellow polishing pad.

michaeld0983
Feb 15th, 2008, 10:21 PM
Yes, that's an adapter that I have.
what thread do you have on your makita? is it custom adaptor? where did you buy the adaptor?

Daniel Kinder
Feb 16th, 2008, 04:53 AM
Yes, that's an adapter that I have.hey hemin8r
why do you have an adaptor on your makita? Is it for the extra height?
I've got a makita and use the W64 backing plate so I can switch from the pad I'm using on my G100 to my makita and don't need a adaptor?

sstg
Feb 16th, 2008, 07:59 AM
I'm really close to buying the Flex L3403VRG rotary buffer. Does anyone have any good or bad things to say about it? Any of your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.Thanks.

sstg
Feb 16th, 2008, 01:18 PM
Anyone?

Tom Weed
Feb 16th, 2008, 01:34 PM
I have one, along with a Porter Cable 7428 and an el-cheapo ATD polisher. I love my new Flex rotary, it so light and has plenty of power. Probably will be my go-to polisher now and I'll save the Porter Cable for the bigger jobs. I use the ATD as a pad cleaner....

Tom

sstg
Feb 17th, 2008, 01:25 PM
Do they come with a velcro backing plate?

Tom Weed
Feb 17th, 2008, 01:49 PM
No, it did not

sstg
Feb 17th, 2008, 02:44 PM
Thanks.

Hemin8r
Feb 18th, 2008, 07:49 AM
what thread do you have on your makita? is it custom adaptor? where did you buy the adaptor?

To be honest with you I'm not sure on the thread size. It's really an extension. I bout it at ADS.

Hemin8r
Feb 18th, 2008, 07:58 AM
hey hemin8r
why do you have an adaptor on your makita? Is it for the extra height?
I've got a makita and use the W64 backing plate so I can switch from the pad I'm using on my G100 to my makita and don't need a adaptor?

Hey Daniel,
I guess this is really an extension and not an adapter. I can still use the same pads as I do on my G100. I don't always keep my hand on the handle especially when I'm working on the side panels. With the additional height I can place my hand on the top of the Makita without my fingers being to close to the backing plate or pad. I can also polish a little more area like right below the side mirrors.

michaeld0983
Feb 18th, 2008, 09:42 AM
To be honest with you I'm not sure on the thread size. It's really an extension. I bout it at ADS.
is it 110v or 220 v?

joebennz
Feb 26th, 2008, 02:17 PM
just ordered a makita off ebay....woot!

netspec
Feb 27th, 2008, 05:05 AM
Does any one have them in stock? Looks to be sold out everywhere. Also where are they at for $199.00? Thanks.

Which rotary are you talking about?

netspec
Feb 27th, 2008, 05:20 AM
I'm really close to buying the Flex L3403VRG rotary buffer. Does anyone have any good or bad things to say about it? Any of your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.Thanks.

http://autopia.org/forum/machine-polishing/102357-flex-3403-vrg.html

sstg
Feb 27th, 2008, 06:41 AM
Thanks netspec. I already recieved mine from Power House. Really sweet piece of machinery.Thats all I can say.

sneek
Feb 27th, 2008, 04:12 PM
I have been using the dewalt for about 2 weeks now, and I do like it on flat panels. It handles effortlessly. I have tried out the Metabo and it seemed to run all over the place. I am pretty sure it is because of the weight. I used to have a 9227CX3, and I loved it. The loop handle is very pleasant to use if you have lots of verticles. I am not sure what handle feels nice on the dewalt. Right now mine is used without a handle.

If possible I would try out all of them and see which on you like. Personally I would get the 9227CY3.

jetset4me
Mar 8th, 2008, 12:45 AM
I have a Milwaukee 5540. Builds up your arms!

2stroketurbo
Mar 11th, 2008, 08:39 PM
The variable speed just went out on my third Harbor Freight rotary.....

--for 24 bucks they work Ok....(if you like breathing a burning electrical smell)

They are now sanders!

I just bought a new Makita 9227CY (with the stick side handle) with help and recommendations from this thread--hoping to test out it tomorrow.

Thanks fellas.

Mark

J. A. Michaels
Mar 12th, 2008, 02:21 AM
Well the local harbor freight had the Chicago Electrics on sale. $19.88. Broke down and got one. Will have to wait to get the practice hoods. The friends of mine that own the salvage yard, had a death in the family. Will keep you all posted on my progress.

ZoranC
Mar 12th, 2008, 10:51 PM
The variable speed just went out on my third Harbor Freight rotary...
How long they last you?

michaeld0983
Mar 13th, 2008, 10:11 AM
what about hitachi? is it a good machine with good durability?

ZoranC
Mar 13th, 2008, 04:54 PM
what about hitachi? is it a good machine with good durability?
Hitachi offers 5-year warranty on it while all others offer 1-year and Metabo offers 3-years (only if you register). That might be indicator Hitachi feels confident in it enough but it is not a guarantee as there are various ways how companies come up with longer warranties.

I know number of people has been using it daily for few years and no complaints. I remember only of one person that had problem and IIRC that problem was self-caused (he dropped it from roof of building or something like that?) but it might be wrong. That might not be telling anything, but I hope it helps at least a little bit.

michaeld0983
Mar 18th, 2008, 04:26 AM
Hitachi offers 5-year warranty on it while all others offer 1-year and Metabo offers 3-years (only if you register). That might be indicator Hitachi feels confident in it enough but it is not a guarantee as there are various ways how companies come up with longer warranties.

I know number of people has been using it daily for few years and no complaints. I remember only of one person that had problem and IIRC that problem was self-caused (he dropped it from roof of building or something like that?) but it might be wrong. That might not be telling anything, but I hope it helps at least a little bit.
thanks

Derrick
Mar 18th, 2008, 04:54 AM
I recently got one made by Snap-on. Anyone have any info on these? duribility, performance? i got it almost brand new from a pawn shop for like $99 so im not complaining just would like to see what you guyz think. thanks

TH0001
Mar 18th, 2008, 05:03 AM
what about hitachi? is it a good machine with good durability?

FWIW, I went through 3 Hitachi's in 6 months...

ZoranC
Mar 18th, 2008, 09:23 PM
FWIW, I went through 3 Hitachi's in 6 months...
What was the culprit?

acsuppa
Apr 14th, 2008, 04:38 PM
My vote is for Makita. I have always been a fan of Makita power tools and the rotary is no exception. Great quality rotary that will last forever. Well, hopefully.

Mike Phillips
Apr 17th, 2008, 09:25 AM
My vote is for Makita. I have always been a fan of Makita power tools and the rotary is no exception. Great quality rotary that will last forever. Well, hopefully.

:iagree:

Agree, there's a lot of great tools on the market and Makita is one of them. Sad to say, the one we bought in 1988 and have buffed out a zillion cars with has finally died. We were grinding some metal and the grinding disk just started freewheeling as something in the gear drive started slipping.


So sad... :(

Jokeman
May 2nd, 2008, 12:54 PM
I have had very good luck with my Makita. I just wish it was a little lighter.

SHYNEMAN123
Jul 9th, 2008, 09:48 PM
I Have A Flex Ck603ve That I Have Had For About 15 Years And Except For Changing The Brushes As Needed It Has Never Skipped A Beat And For About 7 Years Of 3 Buff Jobs A Day, 6 Days A Week Never Had A Problem. When I Was Using B/d Before The Changed Name To Dewalt I Could Get A Year Out Of Theres. I Also Have A Milwaukee, What A Work Out But It Is My Back Up And I Can Always Count On It.my 3rd Rotary Is A Helical In Line P/c That I Have Had For 28 Years And I Would Never Be Without It.

ianv
Jul 22nd, 2008, 08:37 PM
I have the makita 9227C which comes with a loop handle a bonnet and a allen wrench. My question is would the new meg's pad fit perfectly with it? Sorry newbie question, can someone elaborate the variable speed for example speed 1 how many RPMs or speed 3 how many RPMs. ThanksScottwax2

zauche
Aug 29th, 2008, 10:55 AM
What about the loudness of the makita and hitachi ?

Which one is louder ?

Thanks !

Bye

Zauche

Mike Phillips
Aug 29th, 2008, 11:33 AM
I have the makita 9227C which comes with a loop handle a bonnet and a allen wrench. My question is would the new meg's pad fit perfectly with it? Sorry newbie question, can someone elaborate the variable speed for example speed 1 how many RPMs or speed 3 how many RPMs. ThanksScottwax2

It would probably be better if you started a new thread for your questions, see the picture below...

If you want to start a new thread, then click to the appropriate forum by clicking here (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/index.php) and selecting the forum that best describes what your topic will be about and then look for the button on the left hand side of the page that says, New Thread and click on it. You'll see a place to type in your Subject and below that a message box that you can type your message into. After you're finished with your message, click on the Submit New Thread button and your message will be posted to the forum.


http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/StartingAnewThreadsmall.jpg


:xyxthumbs

Mike Phillips
Aug 29th, 2008, 11:34 AM
What about the loudness of the makita and hitachi ?

Which one is louder ?

Thanks !

Bye

Zauche

They're probably about the same, the Hitachi is quieter from memory, I've never owned one but have used one.

The Makita isn't bad though.

For hours of buffing you should wear hearing protection as should anyone working near you.

Safety first.

:)

b2bomber
Aug 29th, 2008, 10:04 PM
Makita user here.

zauche
Aug 31st, 2008, 01:54 PM
Are there any rotaries that are not good to use ? (WHY ?)

michaeld0983
Sep 1st, 2008, 08:07 AM
They're probably about the same, the Hitachi is quieter from memory, I've never owned one but have used one.

The Makita isn't bad though.

For hours of buffing you should wear hearing protection as should anyone working near you.

Safety first.

:)
In your opinion, which one better Mike? Hitachi or Makita? (it's durability, quality etc)

zauche
Sep 14th, 2008, 08:33 AM
I now have a Makita 9227CB and I LOVE IT !!!

It's lightweight, very good to handle and makes a pleasant sound.

The backing plate holds the pads very good - you can turn on the Makita to full speed without watching your pad fly away !

What should I say - You guys helped me to do the right choice !

Thanks !

Zauche

ZoranC
Sep 14th, 2008, 01:01 PM
In your opinion, which one better Mike? Hitachi or Makita? (it's durability, quality etc)
My name is not Mike (as I don't work for Meguiar's) but IMHO Hitachi has an edge over Makita. It is quiter (to me), like Mike noted, it is bit lighter, sits better in _my_ hand, and has 5 year warranty (over Makita's one year).

gww35
Sep 24th, 2008, 05:25 PM
Price should be your last concern. This is your main tool, your money maker. get one that feels good and you would like to take to bed with you.

michaeld0983
Sep 26th, 2008, 05:27 AM
I have purchased a new hitachi rotary, very happy with this tools. It will be perfect companion with my PC :D and keep use it! Scottwax2Scottwax2Scottwax2

stump
Apr 5th, 2009, 08:19 AM
dont mean to be rude but i think you guys are focus too much on the warranty time.... i have seen a lot of products that have a 3 or 5 years warranty (even lifetime) fail that i prefere a product with 1 year warranty but that have a solid reputation. after all, warranty is great but nobody wants to use it very often...

my vote is for the makita 9227c, old fashion for sure, but bullet proof.

roger 668
Apr 26th, 2009, 12:34 PM
I would suggest that whatever brand the deciding factor should be that the speed control be in the trigger.:xyxthumbs

PuDeN
Aug 22nd, 2009, 02:26 AM
Makita 9227c for me.