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Mike Phillips
Jun 27th, 2008, 02:52 PM

Open Class - Pictures & Comments - June 28th, 2008 (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24968)
Meguiar's SaturdayDetailing 101

Coffee will be hot and donuts will be fresh!



Mike Phillips
Jun 28th, 2008, 02:53 PM
Wow! What a great bunch of car guys we had at Meguiar's today...

Check out the 1948 Hotrod Lincoln!








Mike Phillips
Jun 28th, 2008, 03:02 PM
More pictures on Monday!

:woot2 :wavey

Jun 28th, 2008, 06:49 PM
Thanks Mike and Mike! Thanks for showing me how great my paint could look. I was afraid of polishers before...no more, it's easy when you know how. Thanks again,

Jun 28th, 2008, 08:08 PM
Hey Mike thanks again. I made it back home safe and sound! It was well worth the 6 hour drive i've had my g110 sitting at my house for about 2 weeks and been afraid to use it but after the class i'm confident that i can use this thing just like you taught. For anyone that hasn't attended and that has the chance GET THERE!

Jun 28th, 2008, 09:29 PM
Thanks Mike for an excellent class! Definitely learned a lot of things I didn't know before, your plethora of knowledge is inspiring :xyxthumbs

Jun 28th, 2008, 11:54 PM

Wait on hot second.... Mr. Reed? I believe that is Tom Reed in the passenger seat. He took me to the Peterson for the first time and got me started on my career that I am currently in. Drafting. I wish I knew he would be there.

Jun 29th, 2008, 04:55 AM
I did not realize how little I knew about detailing till I took this class, a "must take" for any hobbyist or would be pro. Thanks so much!

Jun 29th, 2008, 05:32 AM
Hey Mike, I forgot to check out that Datsun you just got when I was at the class Saturday could you post a few picks? Thanks

Jun 29th, 2008, 04:49 PM
:xyxthumbsMike & Mike. (The M&M twins) Thanks guys for a class that was second to none. I learned that I knew nothing about polishing. Well, not very much. I know loads more now and might even try to make one of the advance classes some day. By the way, who was the makers of the pizza? They were great. All in all a wonderful day of learning was had by all. The wife saw how clean those two bird spots turned out so.... now she wants me to put what I learned to use a finish the Charger.

Oh yes, for the guy that asked. That is Tom Reed in the front seat. A fellow member of the Golden State Region of the Plymouth Owners Club, a teacher and a great guy. And a good friend I might add too. It's good to see that his students feel as we in the club do about him.

Jun 29th, 2008, 08:09 PM
For your listening pleasure!



Jun 29th, 2008, 08:53 PM
I will just repeat what I said in the feedback form.
I was impressed and amazed by the knowledge you possess and the ability you have to present information
in such a way that we walk away not only overwhelmed by what we have learned but a hunger to learn more. I know there is an advanced class which I will try to attend in the near future but additional thoughts are that you should have specialized classes that zero in on specific topics.
Have you ever asked forum members if they ever wished for this type of class and what would they want the topic to be?
I can't remember when I spent a more enjoyable day and didn't want it to end.I will be spending time "catching up" on reading the topics on the forum and will then be placing an order. I have a 1940 Plymouth Business Coupe, painted by Maaco (metallica Grary), that even though I thought and others think the finish looks great, I now know better and it will get the treatment you taught us in the class. After that, I will do my 2007 Chrysler 300 Touring.
Thanks again for sharing and hope to see you again soon at another session.

Jun 30th, 2008, 07:36 AM
The class was great and VERY informative. Thanks for all the tips Mike!!!!

Jun 30th, 2008, 09:11 AM
What is better than spending the day hanging out in a garage with a bunch of great guys who are Car Crazy's and learning how to make your car shine? - Doing it at Meguiar's Garage where you not only learn what to use but more importantly why you use a particular product, what it does, and how to use it.

And even better yet you get to get hands on experience and demonstrations so you know exactly what to do when you get home. There was so much information that I'm sure I will be back again just as a refresher.

Good job Meguiar's for holding these free clinics. :xyxthumbs

And great job Mike for sharing you decades of knowledge with everyone - not to mention your sense of humor which keeps things lively and fun and makes the day fly by. :dp:

And oh yeah - those 28" pizzas were pretty good too. Yes there is such a thing as a free lunch.

Mike Phillips
Jun 30th, 2008, 12:17 PM
The wife saw how clean those two bird spots turned out so.... now she wants me to put what I learned to use a finish the Charger.

Here's some before & after pictures of two bird dropping etchings we removed by HAND

The first one we removed by hand using M105 Ultra Cut Compound, the second one we removed by hand using ScratchX.

The results were both amazing but what most people found interesting was the M105 removed 99.9% of the defect with one application while ScratchX removed about 95% of the defect with 3 applications.

ScratchX also required more "Passion behind the pad" for each application while M105 required some passion to engage the product with the paint but nowhere near as much pressure or as much time.

First we'll frame up the shot so you can see the car and where the bird dropping etchings were. The etching being pointed to is the one we removed using M105 and just to the left of that spot is the bird dropping etching we removed using ScratchX

Except for the first picture, all the rest are original photos, no touch-up work at all was done to them. Some were cropped and resized but that's just so they will fit on your monitor.





The finish overall is swirled-out but Bob's going to put his new learned skills and knowledge to work to restore a show car finish for his wife!


M105 Before


M105 After


ScratchX Before


ScratchX After


Both work if you work them but it was very apparent that for removing below surface defects by hand M105 Ultra Cut Compound was the hands-down winner.

Thanks for letting us demonstrate on your wife's car Bob!


Mike Phillips
Jun 30th, 2008, 02:04 PM
After Pizza we viewed some of the paint on member's cars, a number had easily visible rotary buffer swirls also called holograms or buffer trails.


We chose a couple of cars in need of claying so everyone could learn the correct technique for moving the clay over the paint with Quik Detailer.






Mike Phillips
Jun 30th, 2008, 02:53 PM
The real fun begins...



Putting a little passion behind the pad...

Showing how to use a swirl finder light to highlight defects and then showing
how to check your before and after results...





Demonstrating the correct technique for removing swirls with the G110

Then showing others how easy it is to do themselves...

Always place the cord over your shoulder so you don't drag it against the finish...

Hands-on Training...




Cleaning the pad on the fly...




Next up....





Buffing like a seasoned Pro!

Mike Phillips
Jun 30th, 2008, 03:18 PM
We used the G110 on the 3.0 Speed Setting with
a W-9006 Finishing Pad to apply NXT 2.0



Then we inspected the before and after results for all sections using
the Swirl Finder Light



And then out in the sun...



Mike Phillips
Jun 30th, 2008, 03:55 PM
The Hot Rod 1948 Lincoln had a custom lacquer paint job that includes a lacquer clear top coat, so while it does have a clear coat paint system it's an old school type clear coat system, not a modern basecoat/clearcoat paint system and as such the paint is very soft and easy to polish out.

The finish had a mottled look with a lot of swirls and this made the paint look hazy and difficult to see the beautiful Candy Brandywine color as well as the metallic flake in the paint.

We clayed the area first and the car appears to have some bonded contaminants which will need to be removed using detailing clay.


We showed the owner how to use the G110 with a W-8006 Polishing pad on the 5.0 Speed Setting with some M80 Speed Glaze to remove the swirls and restore clarity to the clear layer of paint.



These results were achieved with just a very few passes of the M80 over the paint. More time invested will result in even better results.

This is a very rare car as well as a very unique car... http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/797/28June0054.jpg



Time to cruise home!

Blk N Wht GT
Jul 1st, 2008, 07:12 AM
Thanks for a great class Mike. Using the clay on my Mustang was an eye opener and made me realize what I really need to get done because of the shape my paint is in. I'm gonna order my products soon and get to work! Thanks again

Apr 5th, 2009, 09:20 AM
Just curious, but are there any classes north of the border in Canada?