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Michael Stoops
Aug 24th, 2008, 11:37 AM
Great session yesterday and a big "thank you" to everyone who dedicated the better part of their Saturday to come down and be part of this experience.

I'll get some pictures posted up on Monday afternoon but until then, feel free to add your comments.

Markus Kleis
Aug 24th, 2008, 01:38 PM
Can't wait for the pics....sure was a great time. I love the fact that I left knowing I learned a TON. Information is my best friend...

Thanks again to you (Michael Stoops), Mike Pennington, Darren (Spelling on last name?), and everyone else who helped teach technique and the science of detailing paint.

Lt1Corvette
Aug 24th, 2008, 06:48 PM
Thank you as well to the Mikes, Darren, and Meguiars. I found the class to be very informative and a good introduction to advanced defect removal. The class room section while slightly overwhelming provided a wealth of information. I thoroughly enjoyed the opportunity to try out Meguiars sanding paper as well as 105. Additionally, seeing your different approaches to polishing tough sections of the car with the rotary buffer was very educational.

Thanks again.

Bill Prentice
Aug 25th, 2008, 08:13 AM
To Mike, Darren and Mike.

Thank you for a great presentation and learning session. You guys really did a great job of showing us what sound knowledge is all about. We were lucky to have had professionals like yourselves teach us.

Thank you again for being so willing to share your knowledge and experience. It is always the best learning from a committed professional. Thanks again.

Bill P.

Michael Stoops
Aug 25th, 2008, 03:19 PM
Pictures!!

Mike Pennington gives "ol' Blue" the initial wipe down:
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/IMG_0005.JPG

Time to inspect the surface. Take a close look. Closer......yeah, that's it!
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/IMG_00092.JPG

Before wet sanding it's a good idea to check paint thickness:
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/IMG_00154.JPG

Here we have paint that can only be described as "sliced deli thin". 2.87 mils? Are you kidding me? How 'bout we just skip the trunk, ok?
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/IMG_00181.JPG

Proper technique is critical when hand sanding, and Mike shows us how:
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/IMG_0021.JPG

DA sanding goes a bit quicker but technique is still important:
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/IMG_0041.JPG

Each group is supplied with a cart loaded for the task at hand:
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/IMG_00371.JPG

Darin demonstrates hand sanding on a panel with a curve or two:
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/IMG_0067.JPG

This is wet sanding, not the hand jive - get with the program!:
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/IMG_00642.JPG

Concentration is key (and it makes you look like a pro!):
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/IMG_00711.JPG

Proper control of the rotary is important, and Darren says you can do it all with one thumb. No, really.
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/IMG_0091.JPG

Compound curves and narrow areas with a rotary? Sure, and Mike shows how:
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/IMG_00901.JPG

Poor "ol' Blue" was wetsanded to death and looks a bit haggard here:
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/IMG_00771.JPG

But a mix of M105/wool, some M80/foam and a bunch of new found skill restored "ol' Blue" to a beautiful shine!
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/IMG_0107.JPG



I'll see about maybe adding another picture or three in a day or so.

SSMUFF
Aug 25th, 2008, 03:23 PM
Wow, those last two pictures are amazing!

yalerd
Aug 25th, 2008, 03:29 PM
Seems like you guys had lots of fun!

Mikejl
Aug 25th, 2008, 03:45 PM
Man! I gotta tell you, I am so impressed with Meguiar's. Offering us these classes and Open Garages and providing us with such expert trainers. IMHO it just puts them in a class head and shoulders above the rest. :canadaflag1

I'm even more excited about the 101 class coming up than I was before. I'm holding off using my new G110 until after I've got some training on how to use it properly. I can't wait. :woot2

Mike

TimG
Aug 25th, 2008, 03:58 PM
Coool!! :doublethumbsup2

Thanks for the share

Tim

Sprzout
Aug 25th, 2008, 11:31 PM
This class was INVALUABLE to me. Darren, Mike Stoop, and Mike Pennington, my thanks go out to all of you for your help and answering a bunch of what seemed like silly questions for technique. I was VERY worried that I'd burn through the paint (and after seeing some of the paint on that car, ranging anywhere from 11.0 all the way down to 2.87 mils, I think there was some major worry there!) the three of you helped to instill that the rotary is a very useful tool in the right hands.

I am going to go practice on my old '74 Vette now with these tips (and don't worry, the paint is peeling on it in various areas from an old Maaco/Earl Scheib "Scuff-n-Spray" special, and due for a repaint in the near future) and will practice diligently to see what technique I can come up with. That'll be a challenge for sure, working with some really wierd curves, but it'll be good practice.

Thank you again for providing this wonderful class, and I HIGHLY recommend it to anyone who wants to attempt rotary work.

BTW, Mike...Great car for us to work with...I wish you'd gotten some pics before we started the rotary work...That car had HORRIBLE scratches from an automatic car washer. When we were done, that car looked almost brand new. :)

Sydster
Aug 26th, 2008, 01:28 AM
The class looked really great! Can't wait to get to the US.

CWM3
Aug 26th, 2008, 08:36 AM
Man do I miss living in SoCal.

Michael Stoops
Aug 26th, 2008, 08:54 AM
I wish you'd gotten some pics before we started the rotary work...That car had HORRIBLE scratches from an automatic car washer.
You mean like this?
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/IMG_00061.JPG

This shot shows the difference between hand sanding on the left (with a sanding block) and D/A sanding on the right. Notice how much more uniform the D/A sanded side is:
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/IMG_0043.JPG

Sprzout
Aug 26th, 2008, 11:27 AM
Those are the ones, Mike! I still can't get over how bad that car was, and how nice it looked when we were all done.

Sal329
Aug 26th, 2008, 05:15 PM
WOW that is awesome, 2 things I would love to learn, proper rotary handling and wet sanding

jjbleds
Aug 26th, 2008, 05:48 PM
Does anyone have any info on the paint thickness guage in photo 4? I've been looking at them recently and have not seen that one.

Funkster
Aug 26th, 2008, 07:47 PM
Beautiful color. Great work everyone!

Hemin8r
Aug 26th, 2008, 08:11 PM
Once again thank you Mike Pennington, Mike Stoops, Darin and Meguiar's. I learned quite a bit as well and it's just amazing how there is always something to learn & it only keeps getting more amazing. Everyone there was pretty cool and my team kicked some rear. J/k, it was a great time! :dp:

Mike Pennington
Aug 28th, 2008, 07:35 AM
Does anyone have any info on the paint thickness guage in photo 4? I've been looking at them recently and have not seen that one.


Try Here for Info on the Gauge (http://automationusa.trustpass.alibaba.com/product/11837372/Quanix_4500_Paint_Meter.html)

jjbleds
Aug 28th, 2008, 01:24 PM
Thanks Mike, I will look in to it.

CAShine
Aug 29th, 2008, 05:01 PM
Man, I wish Meguiars had an east coast headquarters. :furious1 That looks like an amazing class. :chuckle1 Awesome pics!

Optimum Auto Salon
Nov 20th, 2008, 01:58 PM
where can i buy one of these carts???? i cant seem to find one online.
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/IMG_00371.JPG

Mike Phillips
Nov 20th, 2008, 03:21 PM
where can i buy one of these carts???? i cant seem to find one online.


I've seen them at Costco from time to time, might also look at Smart & Final.

:)

sfbenz
Dec 4th, 2008, 12:52 PM
Was there orange peel in the paint before the team wet-sanded the vehicle? I can't identify it by looking at the pictures.

Mike Phillips
Dec 4th, 2008, 01:01 PM
Yes.

Look carefully at the edges where the sanding took place... there's a texture like orange peel...

Also look at the reflection of the florescent tube lights, see the waviness instead of sharp, straight lines...

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/IMG_0043.JPG

:)

Sandstone
Dec 4th, 2008, 01:59 PM
Great job! I'm assuming that this was the no charge factory installed orange peel option and not a repaint right?

Mike Phillips
Dec 4th, 2008, 03:36 PM
Great job! I'm assuming that this was the no charge factory installed orange peel option and not a repaint right?

Factory paint.

:xyxthumbs

TerryAdams
Dec 5th, 2008, 10:18 AM
where can i buy one of these carts???? i cant seem to find one online.
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/IMG_00371.JPG


A three tier wire cart, can be found at target dot com. "Search" for the words: Utility cart. I've seen it for as low as $60 on sale.

Optimum Auto Salon
Dec 5th, 2008, 11:34 AM
A three tier wire cart, can be found at target dot com. "Search" for the words: Utility cart. I've seen it for as low as $60 on sale.

Thanks for the heads up.I have a new target 10 minutes from my house.There isnt any Costco's in my area as far as i know.Thanks!!!!!

Andres
Dec 12th, 2008, 10:26 PM
nice pictures.... coming to meguiars mexico! :)

Counterfiend
Jul 23rd, 2010, 08:03 PM
Bet that paint looks better then it did stock. Looks great.
I wanna bring my car to teach a class with!