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superbogel
Aug 28th, 2008, 06:09 PM
guys i need help here, my new car arrived about two weeks ago and i just wash it two times with NXT car wash + MF sponge, and i realise that it has too much swirls

here is the pictures: click to zoom on it

http://modupload.com/images/odc6qdnqdkalokt7grl_thumb.jpg (http://modupload.com/viewer.php?file=odc6qdnqdkalokt7grl.jpg)

if u zoom u can see the metallic, my questions is this single stage or its coated?

http://modupload.com/images/gqc8yl58xadai8tpjswg_thumb.jpg (http://modupload.com/viewer.php?file=gqc8yl58xadai8tpjswg.jpg)

http://modupload.com/images/nies45zbwb3ve89f3fqj_thumb.jpg (http://modupload.com/viewer.php?file=nies45zbwb3ve89f3fqj.jpg)

questions :
can i use color X to make all the swirls go away for good?:confused::confused:

help please, i am planning this saturday to do the cleaning Scottwax2

Murr1525
Aug 28th, 2008, 07:10 PM
Will ScratchX do it, yes. All in one day...no...

Did I show you the video of how to use it?

How to correctly apply ScratchX to remove swirls and scratches (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6561779259119696224&ei=x0V1SK-hKJSGrQKuq8i7Aw&hl=en)

As you can see, it takes a fair bit of effort. If you try to do too much at once, you will not get good results. If you have all day, maybe you can get several panels done with resting in between.

But as your arms get tired, your results will suffer, so dont try to do too much. Try to get some panels ScratchXed and waxed in one day, then do the rest over the next few days, or next weekend.

superbogel
Aug 28th, 2008, 07:20 PM
it cant be done in one day? OMG any suggestions which part to start first?? i havent bought scratch X, can i just focus using Color X and after that do i plan to put wax on it, it need to be done one whole car first right?

bro mur, is that swirls light or heavy???

Murr1525
Aug 28th, 2008, 07:38 PM
I mean, you can try all in one day... but for 90% of people, after the second or third panel, their results will start to tail off, esp if the swirls take 2 or 3 applications to remove.

superbogel
Aug 28th, 2008, 08:11 PM
oki then i will give it a try and post it here again :D

pwaug
Aug 29th, 2008, 03:20 AM
M105 with a microfiber applicator would require allot less work. Do small sections at a time, 12 X12, check your work then do it again if you need too. What might take 3 or 4 applications with ScratchX might only take one or two with M105. Then add a coat of ColorX with some passion. Take a look at my posts in 'Working by Hand" I had great results with M105 on an 11 year old car with allot of swirls. Don't forget to clay first.

yalerd
Aug 29th, 2008, 04:56 AM
M105 would be a great choice, not as easy to get as ScratchX but it'll require less effort from you to remove those defects.

superbogel
Sep 3rd, 2008, 07:01 PM
can i have the products pictures? :D

superbogel
Sep 14th, 2008, 09:53 PM
guys i have tried using color x with MF sponge aplicator, seems like it didnt do any good, my car still have a lot of swirls and holograms

am i doing any wrong? and is it better to use foam aplicator rather than MF aplicator?

help please thx

J. A. Michaels
Sep 15th, 2008, 02:17 AM
Try the scratch-x. Do a panel at a time for the best results.

superbogel
Sep 17th, 2008, 06:16 PM
does that mean color x dont go any good? btw seems like my car has hologram.. and i use color x but its still there :(

Ryan L.
Sep 17th, 2008, 08:17 PM
I would you Scratch-X first, like mentioned before and then finish it off with ColorX if your going to work by hand.

Read through these threads:
How To Remove Swirls By Hand (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7011)
How to remove a defect by hand with ScratchX (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1516)

ColorX isn't a real strong cleaner, thats why we are suggesting ScratchX and Ultra Cut Compound (#105) (http://www.meguiarsdirect.com/detail/MEG+ULTRA+32) to get rid of the swirls on your car first.

Ryan

J. A. Michaels
Sep 18th, 2008, 02:10 AM
See how well the scratch-x improves things, then use your color-x.

superbogel
Oct 2nd, 2008, 01:14 AM
before :
http://modupload.com/images/doyk8twnfpvh6hqqwcn.jpg (http://modupload.com/)

After :
color x one time apply
http://modupload.com/images/87hwm73x01p7gt5pmo9.jpg (http://modupload.com/)
color x two times apply
http://modupload.com/images/vg09igq4m0sf49ss0v15.jpg (http://modupload.com/)
color x third times apply :
http://modupload.com/images/tjpjyprrs0q34mq541od.jpg (http://modupload.com/)

and after that i apply the whole body only 1 time apply of color X :
http://modupload.com/images/tiuik0c6sa5h5yojd77.jpg (http://modupload.com/)
http://modupload.com/images/qeq99kl62vk9ojbiu920.jpg (http://modupload.com/)

http://modupload.com/images/h8h871hjkwpagpy76wp7.jpg (http://modupload.com/)

http://modupload.com/images/zywadv7wcgl2vfrid.jpg (http://modupload.com/)

after that i spray the whole body to look at the water beading:
http://modupload.com/images/l1m7upnt5mdtl1r465qd.jpg (http://modupload.com/)
http://modupload.com/images/63ooifycq2eqscn17t3t.jpg (http://modupload.com/)


http://modupload.com/images/3d6ixshdm7g6dh7rmkf.jpg (http://modupload.com/)
http://modupload.com/images/i4vxrn4q245dd7gymt9.jpg (http://modupload.com/)

note : my front bemper and back and rooftop is not color x yet, i am too tired to do that :D :D maybe next time, i notice that my car still have little bit of swirls, can NXT wax cover it up???

thx guys, pls comment if i have done wrong

Dav_C
Oct 2nd, 2008, 01:23 AM
Do you think the swirls are created before or after the car handed to you by the dealer?

If the answer is after, you might want to analyse what went wrong in your car washing process.

superbogel
Oct 2nd, 2008, 03:52 AM
its before, when it arrived it already have swirls all over and holograms

Nuclear
Nov 23rd, 2008, 02:53 PM
from what I read on this forum, you have to use a Dual Action orbital and M80.Scottwax4

it will work.:xyxthumbs

superbogel
Jan 3rd, 2010, 06:39 PM
does M80 have protections like NXT 2.0, or we need to apply NXT 2.0 immediately after applying M80? since I am using a 4,75inch BP pad, can anyone recommend what pad should how use? to obtain a maximum result