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HealthyCivic
Sep 29th, 2008, 08:17 AM
Wash or Wipe after Rain? (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27514)

How do you guys deal with rain? I'm brand new to detailing and I have a brand new black Honda Civic. I went to the gym this morning and apparently it rained for like 10 minutes because I came out and the cars were all wet and then the sun was out so it was creating water spots extremely fast. So the spots got all over the car. Unfortunately, I still have to go to work soon so I had no time to wash or rinse the car, plus the sun was out in full force so I wouldn't want to do that anyway.

So what I did was try to do a Q.D. to remove the mineral spots but I was kinda in a rush and it was my first time dealing with this on the new car. The MF towels I used got black dirt really quick because the minerals so I ended up using a bunch of them.

Anyway, how do you guys deal with rain? As much as I'd like to avoid it, that's not realistic and rain happens. Thanks!

Mike Phillips
Sep 29th, 2008, 08:28 AM
Rain is a problem.

Not much you can do except what you tried or wash the car or later wash the car and if you find water spots then clean, polish and protect.

How bad the spots are depends upon what's in the air when it rains, the more pollution in the air then it's likely the water spots can be worse.

There really isn't an easy answer except to maintain a good coat of wax or a paint sealant on your car and then do your best to keep it clean to the best of your abilities...

Sometimes because of priorities, (work), there's not much you can do.

It rained up here in the desert at 6:00am this morning and the wife's Honda Pilot gets the garage and my car gets to sit outside, so I was up tarping the Jimmy because it's a convertible and later this week I'll probably get to polish the paint again to remove any water spots.

For this I'll use D151 with a DA Polisher and just do a light waxing and this should remove any spots.

Darn world....

:)

akimel
Sep 29th, 2008, 08:48 AM
If one has the opportunity to dry one's car shortly after it's been rained upon, should one just dry it normally? Would there be any benefit to spray the already wet panels with QD, for example? I have seen that sometimes suggested, but I do not understand the reason behind the practice. TIA.

RaskyR1
Sep 29th, 2008, 10:25 AM
Rain is a problem.

Not much you can do except what you tried or wash the car or later wash the car and if you find water spots then clean, polish and protect.

How bad the spots are depends upon what's in the air when it rains, the more pollution in the air then it's likely the water spots can be worse.

There really isn't an easy answer except to maintain a good coat of wax or a paint sealant on your car and then do your best to keep it clean to the best of your abilities...

Sometimes because of priorities, (work), there's not much you can do.

It rained up here in the desert at 6:00am this morning and the wife's Honda Pilot gets the garage and my car gets to sit outside, so I was up tarping the Jimmy because it's a convertible and later this week I'll probably get to polish the paint again to remove any water spots.

For this I'll use D151 with a DA Polisher and just do a light waxing and this should remove any spots.

Darn world....

:)

:chuckle1

Murr1525
Sep 29th, 2008, 10:28 AM
Well, QDing while drying would at least add a little lubrication....

roushstage2
Sep 29th, 2008, 10:30 AM
If one has the opportunity to dry one's car shortly after it's been rained upon, should one just dry it normally?
No.


Would there be any benefit to spray the already wet panels with QD, for example? I have seen that sometimes suggested, but I do not understand the reason behind the practice. TIA.
Yes because there is dirt/dust in the rain water and that will scratch the paint. QD will help lubricate the surface to keep that from happening. At the same time, best and safest bet is to wash the car.

Mike Phillips
Sep 29th, 2008, 11:19 AM
best and safest bet is to wash the car.




Agree.

Now if you're parked at a store on your way to work and not time or opportunity to hand wash your car then you have two options.

1) Do nothing. Drive to work, keep your job and deal with it later.

2) Do something. If you know or think they're might be dirt on the car deposited by the rain, or the car was dusty before and rained, whatever the deal is, if you think or know the finish has dirt on it then you then need to consider the risk of wiping down your car's paint.

Theres no mist and wipe product by any company that's perfect for this kind of job that's going to give you peace of mind as you wipe the car down.

If you choose to wipe the freshly rained-on car down then do the best you can do then drive to work and keep your job. You can deal with any subsequent paint problems later.

Kind of a real-world scenario...

:)

ColonelCash
Sep 29th, 2008, 11:22 AM
Can someone enlighten me on this "rain" idea? I once read in elementry school that perioically water would fall from the sky to help the grass grow...then cows eat grass...and we drink the cows milk, etc.

Guess Nashville, TN was an exception. No gas, no rain, no good.

Murr1525
Sep 29th, 2008, 11:23 AM
Rain's great as long as it isnt over my car....:nervous1

Mike Phillips
Sep 29th, 2008, 11:25 AM
Can someone enlighten me on this "rain" idea?


Water spots are the problem. Especially if they end up being Type II


:)

Ryan L.
Sep 29th, 2008, 12:11 PM
It rained up here in the desert at 6:00am this morning and the wife's Honda Pilot gets the garage and my car gets to sit outside, so I was up tarping the Jimmy because it's a convertible and later this week I'll probably get to polish the paint again to remove any water spots.


I heard the thunder and saw the lightening from that storm at my house...never rained though.

Ryan

Maserati Mario
Sep 29th, 2008, 12:48 PM
Washing is always the answer. I would never touch a car that was dirty and then lightly rained on. If you have wax on it already then it should be fine until you can wash it.

Mike Phillips
Sep 29th, 2008, 12:51 PM
Took some pictures of the dirt spots, will add them to this thread...

:)

Mike Phillips
Sep 29th, 2008, 01:24 PM
Dirt Spots/Water Spots after Rain (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27521)

Washed my truck on Friday, so it wasn't freshly washed before it rained, it had been 2 days, (took these pictures on Monday). but the truck wasn't what you would call dirty, just dusty.

Here's some photos of the dirt spots on the hood after a light sprinkle early in the morning.

Original pic #1
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/649/DirtSpotsFromRain001.jpg
Original pic #1 resized to 800 pixels wide
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/649/DirtSpotsFromRain001c.jpg

Original pic #2
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/649/DirtSpotsFromRain002.jpg
Original pic #1 resized to 800 pixels wide
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/649/DirtSpotsFromRain002c.jpg

Close-ups...
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/649/DirtSpotsFromRain003.jpg
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/649/DirtSpotsFromRain004.jpg

Now some of the dirt on the hood could have been blown onto the hood via the wind and then heavier deposits of dirt accumulated on the water puddles/spots. Even so, the end result is dirt on the water spots after the rain because where your car is parked, if it rains it could also be windy.

From the looks of the last two close-ups, it looks like it would be safer to rinse the car really well and then wash it, not wipe it down.
Personal preference.

I'll try to wash the truck later tonight and if it rains again try to capture a few more pictures of the results.

:)

HealthyCivic
Sep 29th, 2008, 06:07 PM
Thanks a lot guys. :)

davey g-force
Sep 29th, 2008, 06:26 PM
Rain, wind and the weather in general can be my worst enemies. I think it's because it's one of the few things in life I can't control.

...Not from a lack of trying though... :wall:

Sal329
Sep 29th, 2008, 06:29 PM
I do not worry about the rain too much. After it rains I clean my windshield. If I get 20 free minutes (usually a day or 2 after the rain) I use ONR and wash the car.

eyezack87
Sep 29th, 2008, 08:41 PM
Today's thunderstorm was quite something huh? It made me QD my car with Last Touch and I ordered a gallon of ONR to use on these annoying days. The rain just couldn't last for a whole day...that way I could've take beading pics of Rubbish Boys OE and Collonite that is on my car right now :(

eric_son
Sep 29th, 2008, 09:39 PM
I don't mind strong or torrential rains. What I hate are the light drizzles followed by burning sunlight. Such is the typical weather we have here in the Philippines during the rainy season. It will rain just enough to moisten up the layer of dust on your car but not wash it away. Then the clouds will open up to let the sun through to bake in the water droplet/dust combo.

What's worse is driving on a wet road after the rain. When I get home, the side panels of my black car become completely beige with a thin film of caked on dirt.

During the rainy season, I just wax more often. If I'm lucky, the worst I get are TypeI water marks.

bt2580
Sep 29th, 2008, 09:44 PM
All of this over a lil old t-storm??? LOL Try facing the fact that for the next 8-9 months there will be MANY more rainy days than non. Add to that that on the days that are sunny, temps here in northern WA are not all that conducive to wanting to stick my hand in water to wash a car. I HATE RAIN... Only good thing is that for the most part, it rains SO much here that airborne pollutants are highly minimized.

Best answer I have found is to keep the vehicle waxed at all times. That way the wax does its true job of being a 'sacrificial' layer on the surface of the car.

davey g-force
Sep 30th, 2008, 06:09 PM
The ironic thing is that well waxed cars bead up more and thus leave more (and worse) water spots behind when the rain dries.

Just can't win I tell ya! :furious1

eric_son
Oct 13th, 2008, 11:02 PM
The ironic thing is that well waxed cars bead up more and thus leave more (and worse) water spots behind when the rain dries.

Just can't win I tell ya! :furious1


Arrgghhh!!! This is exactly what is happening right now!
The rainy season here in the Philippines is a nightmare. It rains or rather... drizzles.. for 10-20 minutes. This is just enough to capture all the pollutants and dust and transfer them to my car. It also wets the road long enough to liquefy the dirt and cause road mist that stick to my doors like spray adhesive. And to top it off, after the short rain, the sun start burning a hole through the overcast clouds long enough to bake in the beaded water on the car. THEN after the sun did its dirty work, it hides behind the clouds again and thus starts another 10-20 minutes of rain.

:bawling1

tguil
Oct 14th, 2008, 10:55 AM
Rain happens and to be quite honest, I'd prefer an LSP that doesn't bead very much. So why do folks "love" #16?

Look at it this way, rain isn't as bad as hail, right?

Tom :cool:

Pocket_Aces
Oct 14th, 2008, 11:14 AM
I would not QD after a rainstorm (but then again I never QD) Storms kick up alot of dirt and debris which end up on the car. While small these will definitely scratch a cars finish if not sprayed or sponged off.

BTW if this is your first black car you will learn fast that black will show every flaw in the paint. So my advice is to only touch the paint when you are washing/drying. Only wax or polish when you know it is clean or you will start to see alot of swirls develop.

Black will show all signs of dust and dirt on you car so you will be tempted often to wipe it down with a cloth or QD it between washes. Seriously fight the urge and just wash it or wait til you wash it. Otherwise you will induce alot of noticeable microscratching.

davey g-force
Oct 14th, 2008, 11:45 AM
...to be quite honest, I'd prefer an LSP that doesn't bead very much...

Me too! Is there such a thing? Whilst still giving the protection and shine of say, NXT?

eric_son
Oct 14th, 2008, 03:54 PM
BTW if this is your first black car you will learn fast that black will show every flaw in the paint. So my advice is to only touch the paint when you are washing/drying. Only wax or polish when you know it is clean or you will start to see alot of swirls develop.

I agree. Unfortunately, in some places where I park, there are people who have absolutely no respect for other people's things.

Those people seem to have a very keen eye on shiny black cars that are dirty. When they spot a shiny but dirty dark colored car, their fingers start to get possessed by the devil and compels them to scribble "Kinis" (that's "smooth and shiny" in our language) and "Please clean me" on my paint. :furious1

So if it's a choice between consistent ColorXable swirls and etched "Kinis"/"Please clean me" writings that requires ScratchX, I'd choose the lesser evil. :(

Mike Phillips
Nov 24th, 2008, 09:35 AM
Moved to Hot Topics

Tagged wtih Rain

:)