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Mike Phillips
Oct 24th, 2008, 08:55 AM
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Advanced Class #4 - Pictures & Comments
Meguiar's Car Care 201
Saturday October 25, 2008


This is our first year of our Advanced Classes coordinated through our forum and building on the foundation laid by our Car Care 101 Classes since 2002

These classes are limited to approximately 12 people to keep a high Instructor to Student ratio.

:woot2

Mike Phillips
Oct 25th, 2008, 02:47 PM
Another fun and educational class at Meguiar's Garage!

We had an excellent turnout with 15 energized forum members in our class today!

Here's our victim, err I mean our demo car, a 2007 Chevrolet Cobalt in which the paint looks like it's from 1987... that is completely toast with tons of swirls and scratches and factory orange peel.

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Classroom portion getting head knowledge...
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Garage portion getting hands-on skills and experience...
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Having fun too!
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The students of Advanced Class #4
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Thank you everyone, this was a fun class, hope everyone had as good a time as I did!

:)

captaincog
Oct 25th, 2008, 05:08 PM
Thank you Barry Meguiar for having these classes! A big thank you to goes to Mike for doing these classes and finding a suitable patient. I certainly increased my comfort level with some new techniques and then being ably to apply them.
I wanted to thank Harry, Erik, and Mike for being patient with me while I forgot their names for most of the day.

Erik Mejia
Oct 25th, 2008, 05:25 PM
Mike thanks for hosting today's class, althought I've been to the several classes before, I always seem to leave with a few more tips/techniques that I didn't know before. Thanks again Mike, it's always fun to visit the garage.:xyxthumbs

TeamAllen
Oct 25th, 2008, 08:38 PM
Thanks Mike for a great learning session!

can't wait to see the pictures.

Mikejl
Oct 26th, 2008, 10:22 AM
I have to echo Jeff here, thank you Barry Maguiar for providing these classes for us. Mike Phillips you do such an outstanding job instructing these classes. I enjoyed every minute of class. The time just flew by.

I'm still a newbee when it comes to detailing, but now I would feel comfortable doing some spot wet sanding on my car if necessary to make a needed correction.

Jeff, don't worry about forgetting my name. It was good talking with you.

Harry, thanks for the bottle of Final Touch and for showing me how you keep that Tundra swirl free. The paint on your truck is gorgeous.

Mike

havoc0351
Oct 26th, 2008, 05:08 PM
The class was amazing!!! Thanks again for everything Mike...

I'll PM you my mailing address so that my wife and I can get the those certificates for Sept. 6th class.

Mike Phillips
Oct 27th, 2008, 03:31 PM
Here's the first batch of pictures, more to come...

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bmrfan
Oct 27th, 2008, 06:47 PM
Mike,

Great class! I really enjoyed the class room instruction and the hands-on session showing us how to hand sand, machine sand & work with a Rotary Buffer.

After the class, I am definitely more comfortable with sanding & using a rotary buffer. Can't wait to apply what I've learned.

I really think its great Meguiar's offers this type of class to its end-users. This is the stuff that differentiates Meguiar's from its competitors.

Silverado 03
Oct 27th, 2008, 11:23 PM
The best class ever. Hey Meguiar's thank you for everything. This was such an interesting class. We really learned alot. I feel that I did reach that "COMFORT LEVEL" Once again thank you very much.

Mike Phillips
Oct 28th, 2008, 02:38 PM
After learning the correct procedure for hand sanding with a sanding backing pad we moved onto using a DA Sander to Machine Sand. We keep the classes small so everyone gets time behind the tools...

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Mike Phillips
Oct 28th, 2008, 03:29 PM
After sanding, it's time to learn how to use the rotary buffer to remove the sanding marks, this includes proper technique for picking up a bead of product, buffing the product to remove the sanding marks and working clean by removing spent product off the surface and cleaning your pad in-between buffing out section.

In order to use our W5000 Double Sided Wool Pad you MUST use an adaptor... see the below link for more information,

W5000 Dual Sided Wool Pad with Adapter to attach to the Rotary Buffer (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=193585)

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Next we turn our forum members loose with the rotary buffer!

:)

Mike Phillips
Oct 28th, 2008, 10:40 PM
Hands-on training with the rotary buffer...

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Mike Phillips
Oct 28th, 2008, 11:29 PM
After the rotary buffer step we did a second step polishing process using the rotary buffer with our
W8207 Washable Foam Polishing Pad with some M82 Swirl Free Polish.

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Mike Phillips
Oct 28th, 2008, 11:59 PM
Next we used the G110 with a W9207 Washable Finishing Pad with M82 Swirl Free Polish to insure all swirls have been removed.

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Mike Phillips
Oct 29th, 2008, 01:01 AM
Looking clear and glossy after our last machine polishing step...
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After polishing we used the G110 with a W9207 Washable Finishing Pad to apply a thin coating of NXT Tech Wax.
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A few finishing touches like cleaning the glass...
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Taking some measurements...
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A few reflection shots...
Note the paint on the sign actually has some orange peel as the hood and trunk lid are completely orange peel-free...
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Clear and reflective enough to use as a mirror...
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Here are some before shots, note that wet-sanding is not normally used to remove swirls as this can be done with the G110 in most cases. These shots are mostly just to show everyone what the paint looked like before the class and then to show that our forum members sanded, buffed and polished the paint leaving a swirl-free finish even in direct sunlight.

Before
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After
There's actually a light coat of dust from sitting outside all day Sunday in the desert and overnight on Sunday night and these shots were taken right before returning the car to the car rental business. Even with a light coating of dust you can still see a huge difference in appearance quality with no swirls.
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Thank you to all the forum members for another fun Advanced Class at Meguiar's Garage!

:xyxthumbs

maarten22
Oct 29th, 2008, 02:29 AM
Someone will have a really shining rental car:chuckle1 Really nice work, hope I can make it to one of the classes

Jokeman
Oct 29th, 2008, 03:00 AM
Looks like a good time. Good idea on using a rental car for practice!

cchute1
Oct 29th, 2008, 07:51 AM
I have attended one of these sessions in the past and I must say it's a blast. It wasn't the advance session, but I learned so much and it really is amazaing when all of these products work together how good one's car looks. Thanks to everyone down there at Meguiars. P.S. The guy in the blue shirt and the glasses is a real jerk.

Just kidding, he's a friend.

Carfire
Oct 29th, 2008, 08:04 AM
That looks really cool, fun and a great learning experience. I wish there were places like that near Wisconsin. Or even in the midwest.

dpardo
Oct 31st, 2008, 11:18 AM
Thank you Meguiar's for the awesome advanced class!

Mike is such an excellent instructor. He knows how to keep the attention of his students and makes the material easy to understand!

It would be even better if Meguiar's offered some sort of training/testing/certification for professional auto detailers...:D

bene vita
Oct 31st, 2008, 12:15 PM
Mike,
Thanks for the Advanced Class this Saturday at Meguiar’s. It took four times to finally be selected in the Lottery, but what a fun and valuable learning experience that I will never forget.

Sure was great to see Andy - bmrfan again and to meet a bunch of new guys.

Mike - Mikejl thanks for the compliments on the “Surf City Tundra” much appreciated. Enjoy the Last Touch detailer it’ll keep that new Toyota looking great. For the record, Mike took most of the photos of the class and did an outstanding job of documenting all of the four teams in action.

Jeff - Captiancog don’t worry about forgetting all of our names. It comes with AGE. Now you realize why I gave you the blue tape name badge … none of the rest of us OLD guys could remember your name either. Sure did enjoy talking with you about your “fleet” of PT Curisers and how well they do on the Drag Strip.

I know that Mike Phillips’ bosses … Mike Pennington and Barry Meguiar … realize he’s a hard worker, great Forum Moderator and an outstanding Teacher, but if they saw Mike in action at Saturday’s Advanced Class they would have given him a raise.

Picture this (160 pictures above) ALL ALONE with NO ASSISTANT this guy kept thirteen (yes 13) Car Crazy people focused on learning to wet sand by hand and machine and use the rotary buffer on a nearly BRAND NEW black Rental car without destroying it was truly unbelievable.

As always the doughnuts, coffee, soft drinks and Pizza were a treat. Thanks. Oh and thanks Mike for the raffle of Meguiar’s products. I got the Clay Kit and will be giving it to my neighbor this weekend. If I get lucky he will get into taking care of his cars and I won’t be the only “Car Nut” in the neighborhood.

Mike, thanks again to you and Barry Meguiar for hosting this wonderful class.

I look forward to seeing all of you soon.

Harry – Bene Vita

TeamAllen
Nov 8th, 2008, 12:48 PM
The best part of these pictures is I can go back and reference the skills we were taught.

I just look at a few of them and go, "Oh Yeah, that's right"

Thanks again for all the effort that went into putting it on.

Mike Allen

fletch4u2000
Nov 22nd, 2009, 01:03 PM
Cool class, look forward to taking a few to expanding my knowledge