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Mike Phillips
Dec 9th, 2008, 10:41 AM
MGH-4 Hand Cleaner - Still Good After All These Years! (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29062)

Over the weekend I used a bottle of MGH-4 Hand Cleaner that is Post WWII and probably from between 1950 and 1960 to remove stains from antique lacquer paint on a 1938 Packard Model 1603

Lots of people will join our forum and ask the question,

What's the shelf life of Meguiar's products?

The official answer is 3-5 years as long as the product hasn't frozen. That said, if the product has never frozen it's possible you can shake it up and if it still has a uniform appearance and consistency it's probably perfectly fine to use. Such is the case for this old glass bottle of MGH-4

Here a few pics...

A protective plastic wrap was placed on the paint to protect it while the car was transported from the East Coast to Palm Springs, California. After the plastic wrap was removed it was discovered that the paint had been mottled or stained after moisture got underneath the plastic.

Before
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/648/1938Packared001.jpg

Cropped out close-up from the same shot above...
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/648/1938Packared001c.jpg

From the front of the roof
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/648/1938Packared002.jpg

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/648/1938Packared002a.jpg

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/648/1938Packared003.jpg

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/648/1938Packared003a.jpg

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/648/1938Packared004.jpg

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/648/1938Packared005.jpg


"You never know what you can do until you try"

:xyxthumbs

Jokeman
Dec 9th, 2008, 10:42 AM
Wow very cool!

Nappers
Dec 9th, 2008, 10:45 AM
That's awesome!

I have yet to try the Trim Dressing (M38 I believe) although not as old, but no longer available.

Good show :bigups

BlueZero
Dec 9th, 2008, 11:41 AM
That's great Mike! That's cool that you used it!

Zach W.
Dec 9th, 2008, 12:01 PM
Wow!! Was the bottle opened previously before you used it? Thats amazing....:xyxthumbs

PorscheGuy997
Dec 9th, 2008, 12:09 PM
You know, the product in my bottle of MGH-4 is perfectly fine, too!

Zach W.
Dec 9th, 2008, 12:27 PM
PorscheGuy, how long has your bottle been open for?

This type of stuff amazes me..

Mike Phillips
Dec 9th, 2008, 12:35 PM
That's great Mike! That's cool that you used it!

Actually took a good selection of both old and new technology because this automobile had both antique single stage lacquer paint and modern basecoat/clearcoat panels. The doors, roof, hood cowl, and rear light components were all single stage, the main body and fenders were basecoat/clearcoat.

All of the antique products appeared to be completely fine to use and the antique can of M16 Professional Paste Wax was not only in perfect condition but this can has never been used and never even broken-in.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/648/NewAndOldTechnology01.jpg

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/648/NewAndOldTechnology02.jpg

A few after shots, it's hard to photograph such a large car while it's in the garage...

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/648/1938Packared005_5.jpg

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/648/1938Packared006.jpg

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/648/1938Packared007.jpg

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/648/1938Packared008.jpg

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/648/1938Packared009.jpg

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/648/1938Packared010.jpg


After all the work was finished we toasted the survivorship of this classic Packard using some antique Meguiar's Mirror Glaze Glasses.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/648/MirrorGlazeGlasses01.jpg

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/648/MirrorGlazeGlasses02.jpg



:)

Murr1525
Dec 9th, 2008, 12:43 PM
Black and Gold.... at least Meguiars knew good colors to choose... :D

Certainly cool though, doesnt seem to be the same variety of logo stuff these days.

TimG
Dec 9th, 2008, 02:18 PM
Sweet! That Packard - looks fantastic. More picts please.

Same goes to the collection of Mirror Glaze glasses.

Thanks for the share

Tim

J. A. Michaels
Dec 9th, 2008, 02:42 PM
The Packard looks fantastic. Those glasses are unbelievable. It is truly amazing that those products were still good to use after all these years. Thanks for sharing, Mike.

Mikejl
Dec 9th, 2008, 04:48 PM
The Packard came out fantastic Mike! :xyxthumbs That is a lot of car to do all by hand. Were you able to get the stains polished out on one pass?

Mike

Ezmoney95
Dec 10th, 2008, 08:24 PM
Mike,

With all of the products at your disposal, what made you think of the MGH-4 Hand Cleaner to use for this project?

EZ

Markus Kleis
Dec 10th, 2008, 08:33 PM
Solid work, Mike. That car looks better than it did the day it rolled out from the factory I am sure.

If you need an extra pair of hands next time you have a special project, you know where to find me ;) Haha.

gb387
Jan 7th, 2009, 03:03 PM
Very interesting thread... missed this one, is that an antique bottle of M205!?!? :D