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Beercan31
Oct 5th, 2004, 04:59 PM
I'm not sure where to post this so I thought it fit this topic

Hypothetically Speaking

If I use #83 with a PC I have 3 different options
1. #83 with a W-9006 Finishing pad
2. #83 with a W-8006 polishing pad
3. #83 with a W-7006 cutting pad
Knowing full in advance that #83 will do what it is made to do, Will the different pads give the #83 a different "bite" or have some degree of change in it's aggression?

Tnx

Chris Nemlich
Oct 5th, 2004, 05:20 PM
Beercan31,

Technically you have 3 choices. However, only one is truly recommended if being used with the PC, that is the Polishing pad. The finishing pad I do not believe has the kind of bite you need when working with a product such as #83. The cutting pad is not suggested to be used with the PC although I know some people do use and like the results.

As Mike often says...

"You never know what you can do until you try"

Hope this helps!

:xyxthumbs

Chris

travisdecpn
Oct 5th, 2004, 07:35 PM
I love using the cutting pad with 83 via pc. That said, i always follow that combo with 83 and a polishing pad. I think that it would be more efficient to use 80 with a polishing pad, rather than 83 and a finishing pad, kind of seems like a wasted step. Just my thoughts on it.

Mike Phillips
Oct 5th, 2004, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by Beercan31
I'm not sure where to post this so I thought it fit this topic

Hypothetically Speaking

If I use #83 with a PC I have 3 different options
1. #83 with a W-9006 Finishing pad
2. #83 with a W-8006 polishing pad
3. #83 with a W-7006 cutting pad
Knowing full in advance that #83 will do what it is made to do, Will the different pads give the #83 a different "bite" or have some degree of change in it's aggression?

Tnx

The W-9006 will be to soft, or gushy to effectively supply the pressure necessary to break the diminishing abrasives down. It may do it, but it won't be effective.

The W-7006 foam cutting pad will be effective at breaking the diminishing abrasives down, but the foam itself, combined with the diminishing abrasive and the oscillating action of the PC will leave a dark colored, or black finish looking hazy, so you defeat the purpose of your goal.

Your best bet is to stick with the W-8006 foam polishing pad with the #83 and if you need more aggressive power to remove a defect, substitute the rotary buffer. Even then, depending on the pant you will have to perform a secondary polishing process t restore any haze the #83 leaves behind.

Mike

Mike

Alfisti
Oct 5th, 2004, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by Mike Phillips
The W-7006 foam cutting pad will be effective at breaking the diminishing abrasives down, but the foam itself, combined with the diminishing abrasive and the oscillating action of the PC will leave a dark colored, or black finish looking hazy, so you defeat the purpose of your goal.
1) What if your goal is to remove bad swirling/marring with the intention of doing a polishing step to remove haze?

2) Would not a PC/#83/W-7006 remove more defects than PC/#83/W-8006?


Your best bet is to stick with the W-8006 foam polishing pad with the #83 and if you need more aggressive power to remove a defect, substitute the rotary buffer. Even then, depending on the pant you will have to perform a secondary polishing process to restore any haze the #83 leaves behind.

3) Mike, since both PC/#83/W-7006 and Rotary/#83/? pad will leave a hazy finish requiring PC/#80/W-8006, why use a rotary at all (apart from the obvious different degree of defect removal?

I ask for those not owning or confident in using a rotary (e.g. me!)

Just seems both will require secondary polishing step and will achieve similar results with a cutting pad...excepting that the PC combo won't restore as serious defects that a rotary combo can.

Does that make sense? Is my understanding up the creek?

Tim Lingor
Oct 5th, 2004, 08:26 PM
Hey,

Using the W-7006 Cutting Pad with the Rotary versus a PC, the results are very different. The Cutting pad was designed to be used with the rotary. As such, it will leave a much deeper, and glossy surface.

While the PC may remove the swirls when used with the cutting pad, the end result, IMHO, is often a slightly dulled down finish that may not respond well to further steps. So while you could follow the cutting pad with a polishing pad, the results are not usually as good as those often obtained with a rotary and the W-7006.

Tim

Beercan31
Oct 6th, 2004, 04:14 PM
Thanks for the responses I was just thinking out side the box on the concept of using the least aggressive product first and thinking that the pads would play it to the factor also.