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Mike Phillips
Apr 23rd, 2009, 09:41 AM
How to create a dark sheen on flat black plastic (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32565)

Flat black looks cool when it's used to accent components rear window louvers on this Mustang. There are two problems with flat black surfaces

1) Over time the the flat black appearance becomes dull and loses it's dark sheen.

2) There's nothing really on the market targeted and the variety of different flat black components to restore and maintain their appearance.


Part of the problem is the material or the coating that makes up whatever the flat black component is varies greatly from from a thin vinyl tape used for graphics, to flat black paint used to paint components and flat black plastic which is where the pigment is throughout the entire plastic matrix of the component.

Meguiar's doesn't make a product specific to flat black surfaces just like no one else does, at least at the time stamp of the post. When left without options, a car crazy enthusiast has to take what they can get if it's shows to actually help, (solve the problem, and not harm, (cause a problem).

Meguiar's Gold Class Trim Detailer is for restoring and maintaining rubber, plastic and vinyl trim, so while it's not specifically for these louvers and the material they are made out of, it does work pretty good.

The way to use it is to gently massage this product onto the surface using a clean, soft foam applicator pad, somewhat like you would rub skin lotion onto our face. Allow to penetrate for a few minutes and then softly wipe all surfaces down with a clean microfiber to remove any excess residue off the surface.

The results are a deep, dark black sheen...

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http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/1114/FlatBlackTrim012.jpg

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MrCLRider
Apr 23rd, 2009, 10:08 AM
used product last friday on a 03 Focus. Used it on the mirrors and door handles, AMAZING stuff.

ColonelCash
Apr 23rd, 2009, 11:51 AM
Just curious, does this product wash off in the rain? I've tried similar products from other companies only to be left with black water streaks down my doors.

Would UQW also work on this type plastic?

Mike Phillips
Apr 23rd, 2009, 12:14 PM
Just curious, does this product wash off in the rain? I've tried similar products from other companies only to be left with black water streaks down my doors.

Would UQW also work on this type plastic?

It's not a perfect solution but as mentioned in the thread, there's not anything really made for this kind of thing...




There are two problems with flat black surfaces

1) Over time the the flat black appearance becomes dull and loses it's dark sheen.

2) There's nothing really on the market targeted and the variety of different flat black components to restore and maintain their appearance.




Besides that, it also says,




The way to use it is to gently massage this product onto the surface using a clean, soft foam applicator pad, somewhat like you would rub skin lotion onto our face.

Allow to penetrate for a few minutes and then softly wipe all surfaces down with a clean microfiber to remove any excess residue off the surface.




Microfiber is excellent at removing liquids off surfaces, this includes removing trace residues off the surface. If you apply this type of product heavily and don't remove all the excess residue then if it rains the excess will run off with the rain.

Again, Gold Class Trim Detailer isn't made specifically for this type of project so use at your own discretion. One thing for sure, the driver's side looks better than the passenger side.


http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/1114/FlatBlackTrim007.jpg



The owner was happy too as he's been struggling with finding a product to do exactly what we did this night to his louvers... he has the paint covered, notice how glossy it looks? (NXT Tech Wax), so his car looked mostly great, there was just a few sections that needed to be amped up to to look as nice as the paint.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/1114/FlatBlackTrim012.jpg

Tuck91
Apr 23rd, 2009, 01:02 PM
GC Trim Detailer is definitly a good product. How long do you think it will take until he has to re apply the product on his Mustang?

Mike Phillips
Apr 23rd, 2009, 02:06 PM
GC Trim Detailer is definitely a good product. How long do you think it will take until he has to re apply the product on his Mustang?

Good question...

He's pretty passionate about his Mustang, he belongs to a local Mustang club...

:idea:

My guess is he actively maintains his car and he'll be applying more dressing before the louvers degrade back to where they were in the before pictures. He'll probably apply a coat of wax before the other coat is completely worn off.

See the pattern?


:D

Poki
Apr 23rd, 2009, 03:27 PM
How would the new Supreme Shine work for this application?

BlueZero
Apr 23rd, 2009, 03:41 PM
Great post Mike!

I've never used Gold Class Trim Detailer. Does it compare directly to any of the dressings in the detailer line?

Mike Phillips
Apr 23rd, 2009, 03:59 PM
How would the new Supreme Shine work for this application?

Probably not very good. One of the things that's nice about the Trim Detailer for this kind of application is it comes in a rich lotion which makes it easy to apply and work in and then penetrate.

A spray on liquid is going to be harder to control and the chemicals are going to be different so to be honest I don't know if it would work or not but I would choose Trim Detailer for this types of applications first.

There's also an aerosol product like Trim Detailer in our Consumer Line called Exterior Trim Coating (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/target=_blank) and we should have tried it too but once we got going with Trim Detailer that's the course we stayed on.

http://meguiarsdirect.com/imagesEdp/p84726b.jpg




I've never used Gold Class Trim Detailer. Does it compare directly to any of the dressings in the detailer line?


I'd have to check on that, you could probably use Hyper Dressing and get the same dark sheen.


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Honda Fit
Apr 23rd, 2009, 04:07 PM
I have the aerosol Trim Detailer. Would you recommend spraying it on, then wiping off? Or should we also use an applicator pad to massage it in?

Mike Phillips
Apr 23rd, 2009, 04:19 PM
I have the aerosol Trim Detailer. Would you recommend spraying it on, then wiping off? Or should we also use an applicator pad to massage it in?

Actually the aerosol product does a pretty good job of atomizing over the surface to form an even coating, so I would try just spraying it on, allowing it to penetrate for a few minutes and then wipe any excess off the surface being treated and any overspray off the paint. It wont' hurt paint and wipes off paint real easy as a design feature in the formula.

You could try both ways and go with the one that works best and looks best in your eyes.


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10Fore
Apr 26th, 2009, 01:08 PM
I own a Toyota FJ.
It has a fair amount of plastic on it.
I assume the Gold Class Trim Detailer would work well on the black plastic parts.

R0N1N
Apr 27th, 2009, 10:01 AM
I have to say GC Trim Detailer is my favourite product for detailing exterior unpainted plastics. It is unbelievably efficient, easy to apply and doesn't leave an oily residue. It is so good I'm often asked if bumpers on my car are painted. :) The answer is "no" - they are simply treated with Trim Detailer. :D

Mike Phillips
Apr 27th, 2009, 10:20 AM
I own a Toyota FJ.
It has a fair amount of plastic on it.
I assume the Gold Class Trim Detailer would work well on the black plastic parts.

Should work fine. The product can be hard to find on store shelves so if you're looking for some call Customer Care at 1-800-347-5700 and they may be able to help you.


:)

speed3blackmica
Dec 6th, 2009, 02:36 PM
i love the gold class trim detailer..however there is one other product i love to use for dressing exterior trim like this...and thats M40.

babyt
Dec 13th, 2009, 05:53 PM
i heard GC Trim Detailer doesnt last after a rain...is it true? pls...be frank..coz i am choosing between GC Trim Detailer or Autogylm Bumper Care.

Mike Phillips
Dec 13th, 2009, 06:15 PM
i heard GC Trim Detailer doesn't last after a rain...is it true? pls...be frank..coz i am choosing between GC Trim Detailer or Autogylm Bumper Care.

Hi babyt,

This thread is about treating surfaces that there is no product really for the surfaces being treated.

Your question would be better if you posted your own "Dedicated Thread" instead of tagging onto a non-related thread.

The question is... does any topical dressing last on a surface that doesn't absorb.

Plastic trim doesn't absorb so most dressings you apply will be topical and if it rains or you wash the car, unless the product you apply is water-insoluble or cures hard to the surface, it's not going to last.

Buy them both and do a side-by-side comparison on the same piece of trim and then make you or judgment.


Since most people don't start new threads here's another option for you and all the people that will read this into the future.
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/1383/G14512_UltyProtect_Custom_.jpg
New Product for 2010!
Ultimate Protectant (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38030)



Note, as I pointed out in the beginning of this thread, this thread isn't about using dressings on surfaces dressings are meant to be used on, but on surfaces there are no product for.

At the time and day I'm posting this I've never used this new product on the components and surface materials addressed in this thread so keep this in mind.

Seriously, your question would be much better if you "started your own thread". If you're new to discussion forums, on the bottom of the forum homepage there's instructions and pictures on how to start your own thread, I've copied and pasted them here.


If you want to start a new thread, then click to the appropriate forum by clicking here (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/index.php) and selecting the forum that best describes what your topic will be about and then look for the button on the left hand side of the page that says, New Thread and click on it. You'll see a place to type in your Subject and below that a message box that you can type your message into. After you're finished with your message, click on the Submit New Thread button and your message will be posted to the forum.


http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/StartingAnewThreadsmall.jpg


:)

Kendra
Jan 6th, 2010, 10:01 AM
Definitely going to have to try this on the bits of the Dakota. :)

fullbirdmusic
Jan 7th, 2010, 06:35 AM
Wow, that was a pretty big difference. I thought it looked great before the application...

rmatamorz
Jan 27th, 2010, 12:59 PM
does anyone knows if I should use the trim detailer for the plastic that is between the door window and the rear small window of the 350Z?

davey g-force
Jan 27th, 2010, 02:28 PM
GCTD works great but does run in the rain in my experience. Then again - what dressing doesn't?
UP however is said to solve all that. Can't wait to try it as soon as it becomes available here...

Mike Phillips
Jan 28th, 2010, 05:38 AM
GCTD works great but does run in the rain in my experience. Then again - what dressing doesn't?
UP however is said to solve all that. Can't wait to try it as soon as it becomes available here...

It's been a while since I've read through this entire thread but I think I bring up the point about how plastic doesn't absorb very well so for the most part dressings applied to plastic are more or less just topical and you need to wipe off any excess.


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