View Full Version : San Diego Mercedes-Benz club at Meguiar's!

Mike Phillips
Mar 26th, 2005, 04:02 PM
This Saturday at Meguiar's Garage!
Meguiar's would like to welcome members of the San Diego Mercedes-Benz club for our Detailing 101 class!


We would like to thank the President of the San Diego Mercedes Benz Club for bringing us something to demonstrate on!

Hanging out at Meguiar's!

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Superior Shine
Mar 26th, 2005, 04:12 PM
:eek: SWEET!!!! :eek:

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2GrossSwirls.jpg :eek: :eek:

Mar 26th, 2005, 07:47 PM
Once again, Mike, Tim, Shane and Jose come through with a great clinic at Meguiar's

Thanks Mike for a great class. I was happy to finally see and get my hands on some of the new car care accessories from Meguiar's.

I know there's several brushes I need and the new micro-fiber towels and water magnet felt great.

Now I'll have to go out and spend a bunch of dough on Meg's products again.

It was a very diverse group this time and a chance to see some nice classic Mercedes Benz along with a few of their newest models. Lisa was sure showing off her new AMG SLK-55.

This was my second time attending the Detail 101 clinic and I even learned a few things I missed the first time around.

Thanks again, Bill L.

Mar 26th, 2005, 08:05 PM
Great event as always. Mike's a great presenter and detailer. Made that "rotary buffer abused" green car's front shine like new.

Lets get those pictures posted!!! :bounce

Mar 26th, 2005, 09:46 PM
Wanted to add pics of the 2 convertibles side by side.


Lisa wiping down here slk (again) after finding out how well her headlight cleaner fluid dispenser worked.

I wish my 450SL had the auto retractable hardtop (or softtop).

Mar 27th, 2005, 12:35 AM
Ya thanks Mike, Tom, and everyone else their. It really was a great clinic. And I got my 1980 300CD to look ALOT better with just claying and waxing. I cant wait till I use paint cleaner on it and do the interior. Hopefully you'll hold more soon

Thanks again,

Mar 27th, 2005, 02:21 AM
The best teacher ive ever had in all of my schooling, including high school and jr high school and everything. Thanks so much Mike for your hard work and long day of help and very informative information. You make it so easy for anyone to understand how to do something, and i enjoyed myself not 99, but 100% at the meguiars detailing class on saturday. And i Learned soooooooooo much. High five for you and all your helpers, thanks a bunch


Mar 27th, 2005, 12:49 PM

This class accomplished way more than I expected. I had to enhance my car care knowledge. I had been watching the wheels of my car corrode before my eyes with no help or correct advise from the manufacturer. I had to catch up quick.

Lucky for me, Maguire's products are the best on the planet and, as their resident car care expert, I guess that makes Mike Phillips the best car care expert on the planet!

Questions I didn't even know I had, were answered! Also, after using some of the products, I just kept filling out my order sheet because I kept finding that I was able to do alot of the detailing myself with little effort, the results, thus the products, were just that good!

I now know what to expect and how to get the big stuff done when having a pro detail job done (just take it to Maguire's Detail Center in Lake Forest, actually). And, for myself, I now have the knowledge and know I have the ability to do everyday and last minute stuff, and come away with killer results.

So great! Thanks :db:

Mar 27th, 2005, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by wblynch
... It was a very diverse group this time and a chance to see some nice classic Mercedes Benz along with a few of their newest models. Lisa was sure showing off her new AMG SLK-55 ...

Hey! It wasn't my fault everyone wanted a ride, and I had to put the top down (automatically, within 22 seconds, just by pushing a button), and the car got so shiny using the NXT Exterior Detail and Spray Wax (on the already brand new perfect gleaming Iridium Silver paint), and it was already so gorgeous to begin with!!! :D

Mar 27th, 2005, 01:08 PM
Lisa your car is just :bow :bow :bow along with all the other Benz their.

Mar 27th, 2005, 01:39 PM
I learned alot here, especially about former misconceptions I had about certain cleaning products. If I were to make an analogy, this would be like a religious meet--I am now a believer! Well, of course, it pays to know all the juicy details that Mike explained to us very well. I wish I could detail my car then, but it sure needed a good wash first. Didn't want to scratch my paint if I tried waxing it with all that dust. :xyxthumbs

Marshall, I didn't get to meet you. You took off before I was able to get a chance! Needless, your car is sick! I think you burned some rubber going out. Did you have a boost gauge in your dash?

Doug, thanks for the ride. Maybe next time I'll have the guts to drive your car. :bow Love that manual Citron coupe!

Regis, I sent you a PM with all the sites you might need. Hope that helps. Let's keep that 450SL in great shape!

Lisa, your car is simply :bow along with three 500E's! You never get another chance like that again. Take some rest now, your foot will see enough action once it heals. :D If it gets worse, blame that on the joyriders lol

It was nice meeting you all! :xyxthumbs

Mar 27th, 2005, 03:41 PM
What amazed me at this event is that I clayed and waxed the car with NXT back in November at the MBWorld.com detail days event and at yesterday's event I figured I'ld have to clay it again but the hood was pretty close to as smooth now as 4 months ago. I can't remember a wax that protected for so long. Some people on the forums say NXT doesn't last, don't know what they are basing it on, I think it held up great, specially considering the record breaking rain since November.

Where's the pics of the green car transformation. It's funny that people noticed the orange peel in that paint under the indoor lighting but my 2004 has just as much orange peel when you look at it indoors. Outside it tends to dissapear.

Mar 27th, 2005, 07:28 PM
I was going to wait until Mike put up some swirl photos first since my photography isn't the best but this will do for now......





Mar 27th, 2005, 09:20 PM
Inside my goodie bag was a bottle of the new NXT spray detailer.

I used it on Jane's silver C-240 wagon yesterday afternoon. That car has 3 month old NXT Tech Wax on it and had been washed in the morning.

Then I washed and used the NXT spray detailer today on my black Jag S-Type. This car has 3 month old Meguiar's Mirror Glaze #16 on it.

I figured the NXT spray detailer would work better on the NXT-waxed car.

Well, the Jag with its #16 is still silky smooth and the spray detailer just glided off that car. It was very impressive.

On the NXT-waxed car, the micro-fiber wipe dragged and stuck and I had to rub pretty hard to get the detailer off. It tended to streak and blotch.

Although the #16 is a little more work to apply, it seems like it has outlasted the NXT.

I like the look of the NXT Tech Wax on that silver car though.

(Both cars live outdoors).

Mar 27th, 2005, 10:39 PM
Mike, Tim, Shane and Jose ... well done!

Once again, the staff at Meguiar's is top notch. Thanks for the Goodie bag - much appreciated!

I went to one of the first 'NXT' coming-out Detailing Days last year and one thing I noticed from this last DD, is the extensive collection of new accessories that Meguiar's is now producing. I can not wait to get my hands on my order of goodies!

It was great seeing old faces and new ... in particular, I was very pleased to see how enthused the two Ladies are about their cars - both wonderful (Ladies and their MBs).

Thanks to Tom Richards of MBCA of San Diego for organizing this event. I hope to see everyone at some future event soon. My cadre of 500Es (E500s) tend to do quite a few GTGs in the L.A./O.C./S.D. areas ... hope you all can join us!

I'm Car Crazy !

Mar 28th, 2005, 08:53 AM
Thanks Mike, I learned a lot. It was great meeting enthusiasts who share the same passion for cars that I do. Also, thanks for dispelling so many “wives tales�!

I didn't bring my C230 since I rode with Bill, but I did spend yesterday afternoon washing and waxing it. I bought it new in late December and it spends nights tucked in the garage, so it didn't take much. I used Gold Class Car Wash and Wax followed with some Last Touch. It sure looks sweet.

Hopefully we’ll see you guys at the Good Guys show in Del mar this weekend.


Mark Cummins
Mar 28th, 2005, 09:30 AM
Another Great Clinic! Thanks Again to Meguiars and Mike Phillips.
For a Employee to drive two hours (One Way) and show such Interest during the class Thats Passion!
It Was great to see some Return Guests and a couple of New Members.The New Product line has SEVERAL Great items! its a great idea to try out the products BEFORE the purchase... The Detail Brushes look great.. The New Products keep getting better and better.. ...Thank You!

Mike Phillips
Mar 28th, 2005, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by Buellwinkle
Where's the pics of the green car transformation.

There on there way!

Tom Richards recently had the hood of his Mercedes-Benz repainted, after repainting it, the hood was buffed in a manner that the following pictures will force you to cringe!






Although these swirls in the finish of Tom's Mercedes-Benz look horrendous, we will use this crime against his car's paint as an opportunity to show people how to remove swirls both by hand and the Meguiar's G100 Dual Action Polisher.

Mar 28th, 2005, 11:54 AM
i had a blast you guys and lisa! :D

thanks for a great class mike. i would definately love to attend again. next time im buying a buffer for sure!

awesome cars everyone has. i love the mix of old and new and such an a great mix of people as well!

Mar 28th, 2005, 09:22 PM
Sorry I couldn't make the class (unavoidable due to illness). When is the next class? Nice shots of the group and their rides.

Mike Phillips
Mar 29th, 2005, 08:20 PM
After selecting two Mercedes-Benz automobiles to work on, one being Tom's, we broke for a pizza lunch. After everyone had their fill of pizza and something cold to drink, it was time to re-gather in Meguiar's Garage to see what we could do with the gross swirls in Tom's recently painted hood.


Mike Phillips
Mar 29th, 2005, 08:32 PM
Often times when the topic of removing swirls is being discussed on our discussion forum, or some other detailing forum, it centers around the dual action polisher, foam buffing pads and somebody's compound or polish. Yet many people don't own a dual action polisher. So here at Meguiar's Garage, we like to show people how to use the what they already own... their hands!


Like most detailing enthusiasts, I personally love a challenge, and with Tom's car, I believe most people would agree, his car's finish presents a challenge!

BEFORE - 700 Pixel-wide cropped out section from an un-touched, original photo of rotary buffer swirls in a clear coat finish.


Mike Phillips
Mar 29th, 2005, 09:05 PM
Using some painters tape, we taped-off a section of the hood to separate the before and after results. Then, we applied three, well worked in applications of Meguiar's ScratchX (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=G-103) all applied by hand using Meguiar's High-Tech Applicator Pad (http://meguiars.com/newproducts05/accessoryproduct_page.cfm?SKU=X-3070)

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The secret to removing swirls by hand using Meguiar's ScratchX is all in your technique. You see in order to remove swirls out of your car's finish, you need to remove a little bit of paint. If we we're to look at a horizontal view of what gross rotary buffer swirls look like in the paint, it would look something like the diagram below. In order to remove these below surface defects, (swirls), you need to remove enough paint from the finish to level the upper surface with the *****t depths of the swirls until you've restored the finish to a flat, level surface.


To do this by hand with ScratchX, you need to,

* Apply to a small section at a time
* First spread the ScratchX evenly over the area you're going to work (before working it in)
* Work the microscopic diminishing abrasives against the finish applying a little passion behind the applicator pad
* Repeat this process with multiple applications after first removing the residue from each application after working it against the finish


Remember that Meguiar's paint cleaners, like ScratchX do not need to dry before removing. Drying adds no benefit. The only Meguiar's paint products that need to dry before removing are Meguiar's waxes.

Technique Tip

The question is often asked,

"Which direction should I move my hand when applying a Meguiar's paint cleaner?"

A common mis-conception, often espoused on other discussion forums, or by some car care product manufactures, is the technique of only rubbing a product in a certain direction to keep all of your scratches going in the same direction.

Meguiar's teaches that if the products you're using are non-abrasive, that is they are not instilling scratches into the finish, as such, it shouldn't matter which direction you move your hand!

If the products you're using are inflicting scratches into your car's finish, the correct thing to do is to stop using the product! Don't try to camouflage the scratches to your eyes by instilling them in straight-lines as determined by the movement of your hand.

ScratchX can be applied using straight-lines or circular motion and for this particular demonstration we used a combination of both.

Removing ScratchX using Meguiar's Supreme Shine Microfiber (http://meguiars.com/newproducts05/accessoryproduct_page.cfm?SKU=X-2010) after working the product against the finish until the product has broken down, turned somewhat clear and begun to dissipate.


Mike Phillips
Mar 30th, 2005, 08:23 AM
At Meguiar's Saturday Detailing 101 classes, we go through a power point presentation that covers a wide spectrum of detailing topics, one of which is Meguiar's 5-Step Paint Care Cycle (http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2409), which includes;
Step 1 Wash
Step 2 Clean
Step 3 Polish
Step 4 Protect
Step 5 Maintain
After cleaning the paint with a paint cleaner like ScratchX, we then apply a pure polish, in this case, Deep Crystal Polish (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=A-21) which is a non-abrasive pure polish.


In Meguiar's line, we offer two types of polishes, cleaner/polishes, which contain a diminishing abrasive, and pure polishes, which are completely non-abrasive and are used solely for the purpose of creating brilliant gloss. Deep Crystal Polish is a pure polish.


The way you apply a pure polish is akin to applying a skin lotion to your skin. That is you apply the polish to a small section at a time, work the product in thoroughly.


After thoroughly, (but gently with care and passion), remove any excess polish with a clean, soft premium quality microfiber polishing cloth or 100% cotton towel.


Like ScratchX a paint cleaner, it is not necessary to let a pure polish like Deep Crystal Polish dry before removing it. Allowing a polish to dry will not add anything beneficial to the process, so after you work it in well, go a head and remove it.

Mike Phillips
Mar 30th, 2005, 10:03 AM
At this point, we have cleaned and polished the finish. The cleaning step removed the swirls and the polishing step restored optical clarity, depth, reflectivity, richness of color and brilliant gloss. Next we're going to apply a coating of Meguiar's new NXT Generation Tech Wax Paste (http://meguiars.com/newproducts05/nxtproduct_page.cfm?SKU=G-12711)


NXT Generation Tech Wax Paste is identical to NXT Generation Tech Wax Liquid except that it comes in a paste form. There are two types of paste waxes, the difference is in their consistency. The practical application difference is in how you remove them from the can and then apply them.

With a cleaner/wax (paste), like Meguiar's A12 Meguiar's Cleaner/Wax (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=A-12) you can scoop out a small amount and with your applicator pad and then apply it to the finish and work it in.


With paste waxes like Gold Class Clear Coat Wax Paste, M26 Hi Tech Yellow Wax, and NXT Generation Tech Wax Paste, instead of scooping wax out of the can, you can twist, or spin your wax applicator against the wax while it's in the can and this little bit of agitation will help to liquefy the wax and enable it to seep, or penetrate into your applicator pad whereupon making it easier to apply to the finish.



Paste waxes like NXT Tech Generation Wax offer good gliding action and tend to apply very easy. Remember a little bit goes a long ways and it's important to try to apply a uniform, thin coating.

Mike Phillips
Mar 30th, 2005, 10:24 AM
After applying the Tech Wax Paste and allowing it to dry, we removed it using a Supreme Shine Microfiber polishing cloth and the Tom backed his Mercedes-Benz out into the sun where everyone could look at the results and see with their own two eyes what can be accomplished by hand with the right products and the correct techniques.




Here's the owner Tom inspecting closely!


And here I am capturing the results with our Sony Digital which does an excellent job of capture swirls in the sun.


Mike Phillips
Mar 30th, 2005, 10:33 AM










Perfect? No.

dramatically improved? Yes!

Most importantly, we fixed by hand what someone else inflicted with a rotary buffer.

Next up, we'll see what we can do to the same finish using Meguiar's G100 and the right products and techniques.

Mar 31st, 2005, 09:59 PM
It was incredible! i couldnt believe my eyes


May 3rd, 2005, 07:49 AM
Did Tom ever finish detailing that green car or is he driving around with a very shiny hood and the rest of the car swirled up?

Jul 20th, 2006, 02:09 PM
Holy S*** , Great Work! :xyxthumbs

Please can Anybody tell me what Color this is on that E-Class W124?
How can i contact the Owner of this car?

greets from "good old" Germany, Christian....