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Garry Dean
Jul 26th, 2012, 05:35 AM
Mods: If this is out of line I apologize. Please remove if you see fit.


I have been talking about this for a while now and its finally here for you all to enjoy!


Over the past few months I have been tweaking my wash method and using it as a professional in the field. I also have multiple clients who are using this method with fantastic results over other methods. This is similar to what we all already know and love, but with some "Garry Dean" flare.


I hope you all benefit from and enjoy this video.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kY_S-fkgrE


Thanks for watching!

juliom2
Jul 26th, 2012, 06:51 AM
Awesome approach!!!!
No doubt is a world saving method!!!
Efficient, Convenient, Great Solution.....
:hotrod2

Scott's 62
Jul 26th, 2012, 08:56 AM
That is great, and it is still fast and easy thanks for sharing your method Gary.

greg0303
Jul 26th, 2012, 12:21 PM
I like it !!!

It's really between waterless and rinseless wash. Very economical.

bmrfan
Jul 26th, 2012, 03:30 PM
Garry - thank you for sharing!

Great approach to using blending the waterless & rinseless systems

STRIFE
Jul 26th, 2012, 04:16 PM
all I can say is......Gary, you are BRILLIANT!!!
this is a super great ideal!! sooo simple yet extremely effective!!!

Thanks for sharing!

Garry Dean
Jul 27th, 2012, 03:51 AM
Hey thanks guys for the kind words. I really hope this helps some of you out.

chevy
Jul 27th, 2012, 05:54 AM
Thanks Garry. Very innovative. I will use this wash method as well.

Garry Dean
Jul 27th, 2012, 06:38 AM
Thanks Garry. Very innovative. I will use this wash method as well.

Good deal!

Andy M.
Jul 27th, 2012, 07:35 AM
I will be trying it also. Thanks for sharing!

Andy

Michael Stoops
Jul 27th, 2012, 08:57 AM
A very cool twist on rinseless washing, Garry.

If we can be so bold as to perhaps add a little something to it, we'd like to. Obviously the goal here is two fold - get the car clean, and do it without scratching or otherwise marring the paint. Well, add in the third aspect of using less water, which is a good thing too, of course. But the car you showed here wasn't all that dirty so your towel wasn't getting all that dirty either. On a really dirty car we would like to suggest that when you pull the wash towel out of the bucket, make one pass across the pre-soaked panel and then flip to a clean portion of the towel for a second pass, and again for each subsequent pass on that panel. Or lift the leading edge of the towel for each pass so as to keep that line of dirt away from the paint. Something like the technique we show for using Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere on a dirty car, as shown here:

Lift the leading edge of the towel as you move over the paint immediately next to your first swipe. This keeps the dirt you've just picked up away from the paint, allowing a clean portion of the towel to pick up the dirt in this path.
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/1971/UWWA_056.jpg

Two passes, two stripes of removed dirt.
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/1971/UWWA_058.jpg

With the towel rolled even further back, a third pass is made.....
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/1971/UWWA_060.jpg

.... and a third stripe of dirt is created. (the first one is on the part of the towel being held by the thumb here)
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/1971/UWWA_061.jpg

Obviously the dirtier the car the more care you need to use when washing. And certainly really heavy dirt will need to be hosed off first in extreme cases - like you've been off-roading in a 4x4. But this method of loading a bunch of towels in a bucket of a rinseless wash solution is very cool. With one of those gamma seal lids attached to a typical bucket anyone can transport enough material to clean several cars without need for a hose.

Garry, please understand that we say all this not as a criticism of your process, but for all the members of MOL who might be new to rinseless washing in general. We think this is a very slick idea and applaud you for your continued creativity!!

Garry Dean
Jul 27th, 2012, 09:44 AM
A very cool twist on rinseless washing, Garry.

If we can be so bold as to perhaps add a little something to it, we'd like to. Obviously the goal here is two fold - get the car clean, and do it without scratching or otherwise marring the paint. Well, add in the third aspect of using less water, which is a good thing too, of course. But the car you showed here wasn't all that dirty so your towel wasn't getting all that dirty either. On a really dirty car we would like to suggest that when you pull the wash towel out of the bucket, make one pass across the pre-soaked panel and then flip to a clean portion of the towel for a second pass, and again for each subsequent pass on that panel. Or lift the leading edge of the towel for each pass so as to keep that line of dirt away from the paint. Something like the technique we show for using Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere on a dirty car, as shown here:

Lift the leading edge of the towel as you move over the paint immediately next to your first swipe. This keeps the dirt you've just picked up away from the paint, allowing a clean portion of the towel to pick up the dirt in this path.
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/1971/UWWA_056.jpg

Two passes, two stripes of removed dirt.
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/1971/UWWA_058.jpg

With the towel rolled even further back, a third pass is made.....
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/1971/UWWA_060.jpg

.... and a third stripe of dirt is created. (the first one is on the part of the towel being held by the thumb here)
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/1971/UWWA_061.jpg

Obviously the dirtier the car the more care you need to use when washing. And certainly really heavy dirt will need to be hosed off first in extreme cases - like you've been off-roading in a 4x4. But this method of loading a bunch of towels in a bucket of a rinseless wash solution is very cool. With one of those gamma seal lids attached to a typical bucket anyone can transport enough material to clean several cars without need for a hose.

Garry, please understand that we say all this not as a criticism of your process, but for all the members of MOL who might be new to rinseless washing in general. We think this is a very slick idea and applaud you for your continued creativity!!

No worries, Mike. I agree with your point. I use this method as well. The Porsche was definitely not very dirty. Thanks for the comment.

Shawn T.
Jul 28th, 2012, 10:51 AM
I like it, I'm going to use it too!

Also, to make my less abundance of towels last a little longer, would it be good to flip the towel and use multiple sides since there are an available 8?

I know you have way more towels to use than me and this method would work well for people with loads of towels. I think it would be a little more sensible for me though to flip the towels and utilize all 8 sides of the towel or at least more than one of the sides.

I love the method though!!!!!!

Andy M.
Jul 28th, 2012, 12:03 PM
Curious. What is your dilution ratio? I know you aren't using Megs products but they are similar. Secondly, does the solution settle to the bottom of the bucket with the towels in it?

Andy

Garry Dean
Jul 28th, 2012, 12:51 PM
I like it, I'm going to use it too!

Also, to make my less abundance of towels last a little longer, would it be good to flip the towel and use multiple sides since there are an available 8?

I know you have way more towels to use than me and this method would work well for people with loads of towels. I think it would be a little more sensible for me though to flip the towels and utilize all 8 sides of the towel or at least more than one of the sides.

I love the method though!!!!!!

Thanks! In my testing the towels seem to lose a lot of lubricity in drips during towel flips that could be better used on the surface of the paint.

I generally will use between 1 and 3 of the 8 available towel sides before switching to a new towel.


Curious. What is your dilution ratio? I know you aren't using Megs products but they are similar. Secondly, does the solution settle to the bottom of the bucket with the towels in it?

Andy

I have my own product line and I am using one of mine in the video. Its called Infinite Use Detail Juice. Essentially its a waterless/Rinseless wash concentrate, but it can be used for many other things, like dressing tires... Sounds crazy, right?

IUDJ stays suspended in the water solution. It does not separate. 1 oz per 3-4 gallons of water is what I use. For the presoak I use my IUDJ 1/2 oz to 24 oz water.

smack
Jul 28th, 2012, 04:53 PM
Thanks for the video Garry. Im gonna have to try that method.

Curious, what would one do to clean the wheels with this method? Pull out the hose?

Garry Dean
Jul 29th, 2012, 06:24 AM
Thanks for the video Garry. Im gonna have to try that method.

Curious, what would one do to clean the wheels with this method? Pull out the hose?

Thats a fantastic question and Im glad you asked it. I am shooting the video for my bucket kits today and I will be sure to do a short video on how I recommend cleaning wheels with my method.

smack
Jul 29th, 2012, 09:40 AM
Thats a fantastic question and Im glad you asked it. I am shooting the video for my bucket kits today and I will be sure to do a short video on how I recommend cleaning wheels with my method.

Fantastic Garry. We have all done the basic rinsless wash/waterless wash and I have pulled out the hose for the wheels. I have always wondered about getting the wheels clean without the use of the hose. Looking forward to seeing your method on cleaning the wheels.

Shawn T.
Jul 29th, 2012, 12:41 PM
I tried this today and absolutely love it. The only difference is that I used 4 sides of the towel (2 sides per panel). I found the lubricity to be good enough for me up until that 4th side and then its good to grab a fresh one.

I used 5 towels to do my Civic with ONRv2. I really liked the method.

I then used the same technique on the wheels just using different towels (ones I have for just wheels and tires).

Garry Dean
Jul 29th, 2012, 02:00 PM
I tried this today and absolutely love it. The only difference is that I used 4 sides of the towel (2 sides per panel). I found the lubricity to be good enough for me up until that 4th side and then its good to grab a fresh one.

I used 5 towels to do my Civic with ONRv2. I really liked the method.

I then used the same technique on the wheels just using different towels (ones I have for just wheels and tires).

Sounds good, Shawn. Im glad you like it.

Everyone should just remember that I did this video as a guide to my personal twist on the rinseless method. Everyone will find their own path with this method. Just use your best judgement and make sure the lubricity factor stays high and all will be well.

GotToyota?
Aug 6th, 2012, 04:01 PM
Wow, great method!

Is there anything similar to this that you would recommend for daily drivers? Obviously this method is meant for weekend cars.

Or maybe this process could work as well, by washing the towels after every washing.

Garry Dean
Aug 14th, 2012, 03:45 AM
Wow, great method!

Is there anything similar to this that you would recommend for daily drivers? Obviously this method is meant for weekend cars.

Or maybe this process could work as well, by washing the towels after every washing.

This method is meant for any day of the week. Just buy more microfiber towels!

Hoytman
Aug 15th, 2012, 11:13 AM
I'd like to say props to Garry for never resting when it comes to thinking of new ideas. There are so many benefits to washing using the Garry Dean method. It's a twist on previous methods I've seen, and is the best method I've seen to date for rinseless washing.

Lots of ways to tweak or detweak to your liking. I already have some ideas.

davey g-force
Aug 23rd, 2012, 10:04 PM
This is awesome - thanks for sharing Garry! :xyxthumbs

Garry Dean
Aug 25th, 2012, 04:05 PM
No problem!

MicrofiberMan
Dec 24th, 2016, 08:14 AM
how long can you store that bucket with all the wet towels in it?

the other pc
Jan 15th, 2017, 03:14 PM
I'm guessing that depends a lot on your local weather. In the cool of the north it will probably take longer for your towels to get moldy than in the humid heat of the deep south.

And I wouldn't be surprised if a pro like Garry has never found out. He goes through a lot of washes so his buckets aren't likely to sit around very long before being used up and re-filled.

For the home detailer that won't be turning over their towels and wash solution very often, I'd recommend a modified version of the system, sort of a "two-bucket Garry Dean method."

By filling one bucket with wash solution and keeping your towels clean and dry in a second bucket (or bin), you just grab towels and dip them in the solution as needed. You never need to leave towels sitting in the solution.

This takes slightly longer per wash because you're grabbing and dipping towels, not just grabbing them. It's a fast motion and a small price to pay for the ease of keeping towels dry and ready for anything.

It really ends up taking three buckets, one for wash solution, one for dry towels and a third one to give you someplace to toss used, wet, dirty towels.

Killerken
May 19th, 2017, 05:50 AM
Garry, Great video, Really like this concept especially during the spring time when you have a ton of pollen.
This is also great when you have clients where you are maintaining there vehicle on a weekly bases.
To me one of the keys to this system is having paint that is sealed and waxed properly and the wax is maintained regularly to keep scratching an marring from happening.