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Michael Stoops
Oct 18th, 2012, 01:12 PM
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Product Attributes:


Fast cutting compound
Rotary tool, foam pad application
Quickly removes sanding marks

Size: 32 ounce
Part Number: M10132
US MSRP: $58.00

Alfisti
Oct 29th, 2012, 08:01 AM
I knew Megs would release this after all the excitement!

juliom2
Oct 29th, 2012, 08:19 AM
Incredible correction ability with Meguiar's Foam Cut M101....really happy to see this on the new line up.

Marc08EX
Oct 29th, 2012, 08:19 AM
Wow didn't expect this!

Is it a different formulation than the M101 specifically formulated for EU?

If only customs didn't steal my M101..... :(

Jorge Sanchez
Oct 29th, 2012, 08:23 AM
Same formula.


Wow didn't expect this!

Is it a different formulation than the M101 specifically formulated for EU?

If only customs didn't steal my M101..... :(

Michael Stoops
Oct 29th, 2012, 08:48 AM
Not only is this the exact same formula that is offered in Europe, it's even the same label. What does that mean? Well, labeling requirements are different in Europe but we knew that if we changed the label some people would think the product itself had changed, so we didn't touch a thing. There is actually an additional US regulatory bit that needs to be included in the label for products sold in the US, but rather than change the label to accommodate that requirement we're just adding an additional sticker to the back of the bottle. In fact, when a batch of M101 is produced and bottled, part of that line of bottles turns one way to get the additional US label affixed to it and the other part of the line goes straight on to skip the label. So even a single batch of M101 will be distributed worldwide - we haven't changed a thing with this formulation.Now, keep in mind that this product was specifically developed for use on European aftermarket paint (ie, the paint used in body shops in Europe) and for the typical body shop workflow used in Europe. That means foam pads (smaller than typically used here in the US) and a rotary buffer (moving at a slower speed than typical here in the US). But since many high end detailers took it upon themselves to source this product and have it shipped to them domestically and then fell in love with it, even when used on a DA with microfiber pads, we relented and decided to offer it for sale in the US.Interesting story about the development of M101 - Jason Rose, our Pro Products Development guru, traveled to Europe with one of our chemists and a makeshift mobile lab to create this product. This made more sense than tweaking the product, sending to Europe for evaluation, tweaking again based on feedback, resending and waiting for feedback again, over and over. With our guys on the ground in Europe and able to respond immediately, and actually participate in the testing, we were able to fine tune the product much faster, and know for sure that we had a winner. We just didn't really expect so many people here to actually ship it back to the US (it is produced domestically, just like all of our products) and then fall in love with it. Further, even with the amount of dust it can create when used with a DA, these guys were so taken by the speed and level of cut coupled with a high level of finish, that they are willing to overlook the dust because everything else is just so stellar. While we still recommend using M101 with a foam pad on a rotary, we know you guys are going to experiment and play with it in all kinds of scenarios, so have at it. Just remember those design parameters in case you come across a situation where it's not the perfect fit!!

aerogt01
Oct 29th, 2012, 09:48 AM
Dang. At almost $2 / oz this stuff must be like liquid gold for detailers. At least I won't have to import it to try now!

DRT BRD
Oct 29th, 2012, 10:59 AM
Tell me about it.

I paid $80 for my 32oz bottle. Thank goodness I didn't have to pay shipping on it.

This stuff is absolutely amazing though!

imacarnut
Oct 29th, 2012, 11:10 AM
Nice to see that this liquid gold will be available here in the states! :)

Soarer5
Oct 29th, 2012, 11:27 AM
Ah, this is the icing on the cake we've been waiting for!:bigups When's the release date? I'm almost out of M105 and need this bad lol.

RaskyR1
Oct 29th, 2012, 12:21 PM
Pimp Juice in the house! :D

Michael Stoops
Oct 29th, 2012, 12:48 PM
Ah, this is the icing on the cake we've been waiting for!:bigups When's the release date? I'm almost out of M105 and need this bad lol.We're releasing this immediately, so you should see it available from your fave online retailer very soon.

smack
Oct 29th, 2012, 12:58 PM
We're releasing this immediately, so you should see it available from your fave online retailer very soon.


Seeing this product being availible made my day. Being released ASAP makes my week.

habeba86
Oct 29th, 2012, 03:50 PM
Yes!!!!!!!

Garry Dean
Oct 30th, 2012, 05:22 PM
Not only is this the exact same formula that is offered in Europe, it's even the same label. What does that mean? Well, labeling requirements are different in Europe but we knew that if we changed the label some people would think the product itself had changed, so we didn't touch a thing. There is actually an additional US regulatory bit that needs to be included in the label for products sold in the US, but rather than change the label to accommodate that requirement we're just adding an additional sticker to the back of the bottle. In fact, when a batch of M101 is produced and bottled, part of that line of bottles turns one way to get the additional US label affixed to it and the other part of the line goes straight on to skip the label. So even a single batch of M101 will be distributed worldwide - we haven't changed a thing with this formulation.Now, keep in mind that this product was specifically developed for use on European aftermarket paint (ie, the paint used in body shops in Europe) and for the typical body shop workflow used in Europe. That means foam pads (smaller than typically used here in the US) and a rotary buffer (moving at a slower speed than typical here in the US). But since many high end detailers took it upon themselves to source this product and have it shipped to them domestically and then fell in love with it, even when used on a DA with microfiber pads, we relented and decided to offer it for sale in the US.Interesting story about the development of M101 - Jason Rose, our Pro Products Development guru, traveled to Europe with one of our chemists and a makeshift mobile lab to create this product. This made more sense than tweaking the product, sending to Europe for evaluation, tweaking again based on feedback, resending and waiting for feedback again, over and over. With our guys on the ground in Europe and able to respond immediately, and actually participate in the testing, we were able to fine tune the product much faster, and know for sure that we had a winner. We just didn't really expect so many people here to actually ship it back to the US (it is produced domestically, just like all of our products) and then fall in love with it. Further, even with the amount of dust it can create when used with a DA, these guys were so taken by the speed and level of cut coupled with a high level of finish, that they are willing to overlook the dust because everything else is just so stellar. While we still recommend using M101 with a foam pad on a rotary, we know you guys are going to experiment and play with it in all kinds of scenarios, so have at it. Just remember those design parameters in case you come across a situation where it's not the perfect fit!!

Garry Dean asks and he receives, lol.

Awesome!

davey g-force
Oct 30th, 2012, 05:37 PM
Ha ha... I remember your review of M101 several months ago calling it the "Jesus" of compounds.

Let the experimentation begin! I'm waiting for the "M101 via DAMF" review lol...

Scottwax
Oct 30th, 2012, 07:54 PM
So when will my local Walmart have it? ;)

Michael Stoops
Oct 31st, 2012, 08:01 AM
Garry Dean asks and he receives, lol.

Awesome!LOL!! Garry, you'd be surprised at the pushback Jason and I got when we insisted that the label remain identical. "But that's a European label" we were told, "we can't use that domestically". We said "look, we know these guys, and if you change a single thing on that label they will immediately start thinking we somehow altered what's inside the bottle, too, and that just won't fly". Our conversation with you and others at Detail Fest convinced us of this. The powers that be caved, but we had to add an additional sticker with a little domestic regulatory blurb for sale here in the US.


So when will my local Walmart have it? ;)Hmmmmm...... do you think a compound that calls out rotary use only with a foam pad (forget for a moment what you already know about this product) that is priced at $58/qt will work there????

Alfisti
Oct 31st, 2012, 08:11 AM
I think Scottwax had his tongue firmly planted in his cheek when he said that. :poke

Merlin
Oct 31st, 2012, 11:32 AM
When and where is it going to be available domestically?
Can we expect to see it in the local auto-parts stores?

Michael Stoops
Oct 31st, 2012, 12:33 PM
I think Scottwax had his tongue firmly planted in his cheek when he said that. :pokeOh, we know he did..... and our response was a bit of the same. Maybe we should have used the same emoticon? ;)


When and where is it going to be available domestically?
Can we expect to see it in the local auto-parts stores?Availability could be as soon as the next couple of weeks as this is a currently produced product. It's just a question of delivery through the proper channels. But don't expect to see it at your local auto parts store; it's going to be either an online purchase or through a PBE store like the majority of the Mirror Glaze line.

Evan.J
Oct 31st, 2012, 02:37 PM
Michael, or anyone else that can answer this, What will be the normal process for this? M101 followed by... M205 or something else?

Michael Stoops
Oct 31st, 2012, 03:55 PM
Michael, or anyone else that can answer this, What will be the normal process for this? M101 followed by... M205 or something else?
Generally, yes. In most cases you'll need to follow M101 with a less aggressive polish, whether that be M205 or anything else you like as a finishing polish.

Selectchoice
Oct 31st, 2012, 04:19 PM
Generally, yes. In most cases you'll need to follow M101 with a less aggressive polish, whether that be M205 or anything else you like as a finishing polish.

So now all we really need to add to the line up is M201, and then their consumer equivilents, let's call them 'Ultimate Compound-Cousin', and 'Ultimate Polish-Cousin' so we know they are related, but not the same. Don't forget 'Ultimate Wax-Cousin'..... Just kidding Mike.

There really seems to be a whole lot of choice of product from Meguiars. Great for those that like to experiment, but I still loves me good ol' M105/M205 combo! :cool:

DRT BRD
Nov 2nd, 2012, 06:47 AM
I've found that following up M101 with D300 on a polishing disk is usually LSP ready. Of course the varialbes matter and come into play but that's a pretty killer defect combo.

Merlin
Nov 2nd, 2012, 09:09 AM
I've found that following up M101 with D300 on a polishing disk is usually LSP ready. Of course the variables matter and come into play but that's a pretty killer defect combo.

Follow that combo with M205 and the finish is even better. Although M105 works great it dries quickly and splatters. I can deal with a little M101 dusting but the M105 flashing and splatte4r drives me nuts. I'm looking forward to M101.

rwright
Nov 2nd, 2012, 12:21 PM
Follow that combo with M205 and the finish is even better. Although M105 works great it dries quickly and splatters. I can deal with a little M101 dusting but the M105 flashing and splatte4r drives me nuts. I'm looking forward to M101.

Drop a little D300 on the same pad as M105 and watch your working time increase and dust decrease.

s word
Nov 5th, 2012, 09:38 AM
MY favorite online Retailer isn't selling it yet.:bawling1
I could have used some this weekend. I am also running low on M105.
Shoot I'd be willing to drive down to Irvine to get some.

Michael Stoops
Nov 5th, 2012, 09:49 AM
MY favorite online Retailer isn't selling it yet.:bawling1
I could have used some this weekend. I am also running low on M105.
Shoot I'd be willing to drive down to Irvine to get some.
Be patient..... it won't be long now. As for driving to Irvine, remember that we don't have a full "factory store" here so you can't buy it at our offices here.

s word
Nov 5th, 2012, 11:16 AM
Be patient..... it won't be long now. As for driving to Irvine, remember that we don't have a full "factory store" here so you can't buy it at our offices here.

The push comes from being pretty excited to give this stuff a try. Nothing likes to cut through my paint, and maybe just maybe M101 will be my answer. Plus I am really amped on the idea of using with D300 to reduce dusting.

About Irvine, I figured if I sat out front long enough with a "GOT M101?" written on cardboard someone would throw me a bone/bottle.:laughing2

Merlin
Nov 5th, 2012, 05:38 PM
I've created M310. :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:

I mix a little M105 with a little M205.
Longer work time & much less splatter.

aerogt01
Nov 5th, 2012, 05:46 PM
Wouldn't that be M155?

Merlin
Nov 5th, 2012, 05:52 PM
Wouldn't that be M155?

My math M105 + M205 = M310 (TaDa)

Sorry for going off topic. Yes, I'm looking forward to trying M101

davey g-force
Nov 5th, 2012, 08:25 PM
I think what aerogt01 meant was:

You use 50% M105 plus 50% M205, so:

(105/2) + (205/2) = M155.

That's assuming you use 50% of each though...

(Yes, off topic sorry...)

s word
Nov 12th, 2012, 04:34 PM
Looks like M101 hit Detailing.com sometime this weekend or today. Mike are you guys going to offer different sizes? I wouldn;t know what to do with all that M101.

Edit: M101 did not hit, it was posted up for pre-ordering. But my size question still stands. I got a M105 in a small black container, that size in M101 would be lovely.

lionshark
Jan 2nd, 2013, 08:06 PM
hmmmm don't know if i messed something the last 4 pages, but this can be used on a DA right??

s word
Jan 2nd, 2013, 11:51 PM
hmmmm don't know if i messed something the last 4 pages, but this can be used on a DA right??Works fine for me this way. Foam and mf.

Michael Stoops
Jan 3rd, 2013, 08:04 AM
We are offering M101 here in the US in just the quart size. No gallons, no 8 or 16 oz, sorry.

As for using M101 on a DA, well....................

It was designed very specifically for the European aftermarket paint business (ie - collision repair). The paint used in Euro body shops is very different from that used in US body shops, and the buffing workflow is also very different. Where we tend to use wool pads and sand/buff entire panels, they use smaller foam pads and tend to just do spot repair. So we developed this product specifically for those paints and that workflow.

And then some guys here in the US got a hold of it and started using it with the DA microfiber system and immediately began begging us to release it domestically. These guys, including some of the most elite detailers in the country, couldn't get enough of it and used it with wool pads, foam pads, rotary buffers, DA buffers, microfiber pads, fresh paint, new factory paint, beat up older paint - you name it, they tried it. And they loved it. So we gave in and decided to offer it up domestically, but only in quart size.

So, back to the question about using it on a DA. We may not have designed it for that application, but plenty of people will tell you that it is outstanding in that application. We will tell you, however, that it will create a fair amount of dust this way, especially if you over use it. If you absolutely HATE dust when buffing, M101 may not be for you. But we heard so many people tell us that they're happy to put up with the dust because of how fast it cuts and how nice a finish it leaves. It's a trade off they're more than willing to live with.

Merlin
Jan 20th, 2013, 04:48 AM
Finally got around to using M101. All I can say is WOW! I found a new love.


I'd say there was "no mess" with M101 & only a minimal amount of dusting.
In My Humble Opinion M105 vs M101 are at opposite ends of the bell curve.
They both cut great. M101 is no mess, longer work time and a sweet finish.


I believe I have found a new one-two go-to combo. When can we get Gal?

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1619/Meguiars_M101_Foam_Cut_Compound_007.jpg

Merlin
Feb 2nd, 2013, 07:37 AM
We are offering M101 here in the US in just the quart size. No gallons, no 8 or 16 oz, sorry.

As for using M101 on a DA, well....................they tried it. And they loved it. So we gave in and decided to offer it up domestically, but only in quart size.

I've tried it. I'm sold! Are you planning to release gallons in the US anytime soon? I'm ready.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/m101.jpg

davey g-force
Feb 3rd, 2013, 12:14 PM
^^ Wow, you must detail a lot of cars!

Michael Stoops
Feb 4th, 2013, 09:43 AM
To my knowledge, there are no plans at the moment to offer gallons of M101 in the US. But hey, we didn't plan on selling M101 domestically at all to start with, so things can always change!

STRIFE
Feb 5th, 2013, 12:48 PM
I personally think many of the online vendors would sell more if sold in 12 or 16 oz bottles, those self cleaning bottles are great.

s word
Feb 5th, 2013, 01:41 PM
I personally think many of the online vendors would sell more if sold in 12 or 16 oz bottles, those self cleaning bottles are great.

I agree. I think Meguiars is still modeling this product as it was intended (european body shops) which could explain the 1 somewhat large size.

I wanted a smaller bottle but in the end bucked up for the big one.

If you plan to just use this on your own car as an enthusiast, you will have a 15 yr supply. Not sure if product expires but there is plenty of product in that bottle. If you were local I would offer up a bit of mine.


Also I have used this product with both foam pads and DAMF system. Strangely I found it had a better cut when used on a foam pad (yellow) than the DAMF. Not sure if anyone else noticed the same thing. Even with DAMF this stuff is pretty amazing.