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Nick Winn
Oct 29th, 2019, 11:23 AM
Meguiar's M799 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Bead Booster (https://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?69235-Meguiar-s-M799-PRO-Hybrid-Ceramic-Bead-Booster)

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Hybrid Ceramic SiO2 Spray Sealant restores gloss, slickness & water beading to coatings
Versatile, dilutable formula works as spray sealant, boosted detailer, drying aid & clay lubricant
Durable beading protection on Paint Protection Film, paint & coatings


Highly versatile formula that serves several roles including:

Coating Topper
Standalone Spray Sealant
Drying Aid
Quick Detailer Spray
Synthetic Clay Lubricant


Dilutable

Full Strength: Spray Sealant or Coating Topper
1:3 (1 part water to 3 parts M799) = Clay Lubricant or Drying Aide
1:3 (1 part water to 3 parts M799) = Boosted Quick Detailer / For Use in Sun


Primary Function is a maintenance topper for Meguiar's M788 Deep Crystal Ceramic Paint Coating, to restore gloss, slickness, and hydrophobic properties

Excellent "standalone" topper, or for one-step "clay & wax" for light colored cars

Meguiar's M799 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Bead Booster
Product Number, Sizes, MSRP's:
M79932 - 32OZ - $39.99US (Sealed & Capped for shipping, sprayer not included)
M79901 - 1 Gallon - $99.99US


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hGwFnWT0HU

The Guz
Nov 5th, 2019, 09:49 AM
This is going to be a popular product.

drumdan
Nov 5th, 2019, 11:05 AM
This is the first in recent years that I would absolutely love to pick up EVERY new item - immediately.

Well done, Megs!

Nick Winn
Nov 6th, 2019, 08:53 AM
This is the first in recent years that I would absolutely love to pick up EVERY new item - immediately.

Well done, Megs!

I have shared your comment with our product managers! Thanks!

drumdan
Nov 6th, 2019, 07:10 PM
I have shared your comment with our product managers! Thanks!

Thanks, Nick!

Drmilr
Nov 11th, 2019, 04:10 AM
Possible as a rinseless wash??

Nick Winn
Nov 11th, 2019, 07:34 AM
Possible as a rinseless wash??

It does not have the cleaning ability/package to take on contaminants beyond light dust, fingerprints, etc. like a rinseless wash would/should. 1:3 for quick detailer.

symmetrical
Nov 21st, 2019, 09:09 PM
"Primary Function is a maintenance topper for Meguiar's M788 Deep Crystal Ceramic Paint Coating"

Answer is probably obvious, but would this also work the same for M27 since it's in the same SiO2 family?

Nick Winn
Nov 22nd, 2019, 12:25 PM
"Primary Function is a maintenance topper for Meguiar's M788 Deep Crystal Ceramic Paint Coating"

Answer is probably obvious, but would this also work the same for M27 since it's in the same SiO2 family?

Yes, absolutely. This also is a excellent standalone spray sealant when used at full strength, delivering what our product managers are saying 3 - 4 months real world durability.

I've actually edited my bullet points to add "standalone spray sealant" so it is more clear.

pcfxer
Nov 25th, 2019, 05:36 AM
This is the first in recent years that I would absolutely love to pick up EVERY new item - immediately.

Well done, Megs!

+100000

2018 z71
Dec 4th, 2019, 06:10 PM
Nick
How is the gloss level of M799 when used over M27 as a maintenance topper at full strength and diluted 1:3?

Nick Winn
Dec 5th, 2019, 03:48 PM
Nick
How is the gloss level of M799 when used over M27 as a maintenance topper at full strength and diluted 1:3?

Hi 2018 z71,

M799 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Bead Booster's gloss is great! Similar gloss to our D156 Synthetic X-Press Spray Wax.

davey g-force
Feb 26th, 2020, 07:35 PM
Ooh I want me some of this!!

Whipped500
Mar 10th, 2020, 08:23 AM
Meguiar's M799 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Bead Booster (https://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?69235-Meguiar-s-M799-PRO-Hybrid-Ceramic-Bead-Booster)

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/2691/M799_BeadBooster_pres_Custom_1_.png http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/2691/M79901_ProHybridCeramicBeadBooster_pres_250.jpg



Hybrid Ceramic SiO2 Spray Sealant restores gloss, slickness & water beading to coatings
Versatile, dilutable formula works as spray sealant, boosted detailer, drying aid & clay lubricant
Durable beading protection on Paint Protection Film, paint & coatings


Highly versatile formula that serves several roles including:

Coating Topper
Standalone Spray Sealant
Drying Aid
Quick Detailer Spray
Synthetic Clay Lubricant


Dilutable

Full Strength: Spray Sealant or Coating Topper
1:3 (1 part water to 3 parts M799) = Clay Lubricant or Drying Aide
1:3 (1 part water to 3 parts M799) = Boosted Quick Detailer / For Use in Sun


Primary Function is a maintenance topper for Meguiar's M788 Deep Crystal Ceramic Paint Coating, to restore gloss, slickness, and hydrophobic properties

Excellent "standalone" topper, or for one-step "clay & wax" for light colored cars

Meguiar's M799 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Bead Booster
Product Number, Sizes, MSRP's:
M79932 - 32OZ - $39.99US (Sealed & Capped for shipping, sprayer not included)
M79901 - 1 Gallon - $99.99US


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hGwFnWT0HU

Any idea when this will be released?

Whipped500
Mar 11th, 2020, 02:52 AM
When is this supposed to be available?

If this was used after each wash (weekly/bi weekly) would a foundation of M27 be a waste or would it be better to have the M27?

Thanks

HCAD
Mar 13th, 2020, 12:01 PM
Any idea when this will be released?

My supplier is estimating 4/10/20.

The Guz
Mar 13th, 2020, 05:32 PM
If this was used after each wash (weekly/bi weekly) would a foundation of M27 be a waste or would it be better to have the M27?

Thanks

Not at all. Spray products are not always as durable as a liquid product.

Whipped500
Mar 16th, 2020, 04:27 PM
My supplier is estimating 4/10/20.

Thanks

Whipped500
Mar 16th, 2020, 04:29 PM
Not at all. Spray products are not always as durable as a liquid product.

Ok, thanks!
I just wasn't sure if using so often would make up for not using m27? I was hoping to use up some ultimate polish and ultimate wax and a AIO for a base and maintain/top with the m799

The Guz
Mar 17th, 2020, 12:02 AM
Ok, thanks!
I just wasn't sure if using so often would make up for not using m27? I was hoping to use up some ultimate polish and ultimate wax and a AIO for a base and maintain/top with the m799

You certainly can use it over an AIO or ultimate wax. Give it a shot. You also have access to the hybrid ceramic detailer locally which will accomplish the same thing.

Buck91
Apr 29th, 2020, 04:22 PM
Hi 2018 z71,

M799 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Bead Booster's gloss is great! Similar gloss to our D156 Synthetic X-Press Spray Wax.



Sweet! D156 is probably my favorite single paint detailing product. Just a very large return on investment of time/effort. How does M799 compare to HCW (spray)?

thedoc46
Apr 30th, 2020, 07:30 AM
So i just ordered a gallon jug of this rather expensive M799. After using M27 i've now decided to make M27 as my new main goto LSP.... Really enjoyed using it. So I'm trying to say to myself... Ceramic with ceramic was the need. I'm assuming its going to work better than D156, being you're marrying ceramic to ceramic... D156 is typically something i was using on a weekly basis, as a top up to a typically more traditional wax / sealant that's always applied on a monthly basis. Normally, HLCW, ULW, Fast Finish or sometimes, dare i say it a competitor's product ! I can't ever see myself going down the M788 route. Because i'm someone who enjoys detailing. So no, i'm not going to ever put on a full on ceramic coating. I already have something called a clear coat that gets properly protected..

So tell me, this stuff is probably around the same price as the hybrid Ceramic Detailer, if i went retail and picked 5 of em up. A first for Meguiars. Also as a straight up spray on RTU detailer, its more expensive than well anything else on the market. P&S BM, your own D156 as good examples.

Make me feel better about my purchase.. What makes this worth the extra price tag. Probably questions i should of asked, prior to buying it. But you know how it goes... that need !! You guys always have impressed with your new products, so that was good enough reason to just go for it. Plus for some reason, i just enjoy trying out new car cleaning products !

510GUY
May 4th, 2020, 09:17 PM
My supplier is estimating 4/10/20.

Does anyone know if the 32oz size is available yet? My supplier does not have this in 1 gallon or 32 ounce size yet.

Thanks,

HCAD
May 5th, 2020, 04:15 AM
Does anyone know if the 32oz size is available yet? My supplier does not have this in 1 gallon or 32 ounce size yet.

Thanks,

Detailed Image has the 128 oz jug in stock now. The 32 oz spray bottle has been pushed back to 5/26. Odd.

symmetrical
May 11th, 2020, 07:44 AM
So i just ordered a gallon jug of this rather expensive M799. After using M27 i've now decided to make M27 as my new main goto LSP.... Really enjoyed using it. So I'm trying to say to myself... Ceramic with ceramic was the need. I'm assuming its going to work better than D156, being you're marrying ceramic to ceramic... D156 is typically something i was using on a weekly basis, as a top up to a typically more traditional wax / sealant that's always applied on a monthly basis. Normally, HLCW, ULW, Fast Finish or sometimes, dare i say it a competitor's product ! I can't ever see myself going down the M788 route. Because i'm someone who enjoys detailing. So no, i'm not going to ever put on a full on ceramic coating. I already have something called a clear coat that gets properly protected..

So tell me, this stuff is probably around the same price as the hybrid Ceramic Detailer, if i went retail and picked 5 of em up. A first for Meguiars. Also as a straight up spray on RTU detailer, its more expensive than well anything else on the market. P&S BM, your own D156 as good examples.

Make me feel better about my purchase.. What makes this worth the extra price tag. Probably questions i should of asked, prior to buying it. But you know how it goes... that need !! You guys always have impressed with your new products, so that was good enough reason to just go for it. Plus for some reason, i just enjoy trying out new car cleaning products !

Your comment is spot on for me, I can't see myself going with the M788 actual ceramic coating either cause I actually like to clean and play around with products too often. So I've also went with M27 as the primary protection on all my cars.

Regarding the Hybrid Ceramic Detailer, I have a few bottles and love that stuff. I use it purely as a quick detailer to remove dust and not as a standalone sealant.

I just ordered this Bead Booster but not to use as a detailer, but curious on how well it works as a stand alone. I clean my family's cars sometimes and will be using this as a once or every other month topper on their cars. If it even remotely lasts 3 months that'll be amazing for me. We'll see :)

thedoc46
May 11th, 2020, 11:38 AM
So this weekend, with my new M799, i tried full strength and also 3 parts M799 to 1 part distilled water and sad to say, i really struggled with this product. It was used in low humidity in a garage at temps of around 85 on a pearl black 2018 VW, which was washed using a waterless D114 at 1:128 dilution. This SUV has been garaged for the most part, apart from short hops to the grocery store. So it had only a light dusting of pollen. It was pretty clean. I chose D114 over D115 (my typical favorite waterless) because A.\ it wasn't dirty enough to warrant a getting the hose or foam cannon out for, and B.\ i was going to M799 it, so I didn't want the additional wax in D115 to interfere with the application. Not to mention that 2 weeks ago, I went over to the darkside and went all out buying and applying some Turtle Wax ‘Black’ Acrylic Ceramic polish and wax. (hey who can blame me, I have two black auto’s I clean on a weekly basis).. As part of that detail, I went the full hog, and i did a full M1801 decon, a clay (with last touch 50:50 as my lube) and did my polishing using the new TW black acrylic ceramic polish, along with an orange Lake Country pad using my megs MT300. I opted for the Lake Country pad over the amazing Meguiars MF system because i knew the TW black ceramic polish would stain up my Megs MF pads, which I wanted to avoid... I found this lake country/TW polish to be nowhere near as good as using the Megs MF Compound and MF correction pads. That combo really does an amazing job. I don't know why i bothered trying something else, other than to say to myself, at least i tried something meant for black cars ! Anyway, the car really didn't need a polish. Maybe it had some very light hairline scratches, but this car has never seen an automatic wash or anyone else wash it, and i'm very particular about my cleaning regiment so the paint is always in either A or A+ condition. Also worth mentioning is between polish and wax i did use your new M122 Surface Prep, to get the paint as ready as possible before the final TW ceramic black LSP. i did question this to myself, why am I doing the M122? Ok typically you’re supposed too, however as this new TW ceramic polish claims to include protection. why am i removing it before applying the spray ceramic wax?? i'm only going on so much about this because i'm wondering if this detail less than two weeks ago, is the reason i had so much trouble using M799.

Re M799, I thought i could perhaps use it as a replacement for Fast Finish at full strength, in that i spritz up a MF pad, get around the car, then use a Supreme shine MF to buff off any residue to a deep black gloss. I'll be honest, i have so many LSP's, carnauba waxes, sealants, paint protectant this paint protectant that. All normally do a good job, and leave the cars looking deep black.. Some streak a little, some are a pain to buff off, some are so easy it's a joy, that I question why do I keep wanting to try different products????...
What can I say, I like trying out different detailing products. Last week I was really excited about using M27 for the first time, on my other black pearl VW gti, again A+ condition. it was possibly one of the easiest products i've ever worked with. However M799, was as grippy and streaky as they come! I thought at first is perhaps because i allowed it to flash dry on the paintwork, before wiping it off. So then i thought ok, maybe i'll re-do half the hood using my 3:1 mixture.. Directly onto the paint and immediately wiping off. Given it’s also a drying aid. Despite it being a little easier, it was still no walk in the park! I think the last time i was felt so disappointed was when i went out and bought the Collinite 915 marque d'elegance, with its supposedly highest concentration of carnauba wax in any wax, but ended up a pig to remove and left my car a streaky mess! Instead of the most elegant it was ever supposed to look. I don’t think I’ve used it since.. I guess I should have / will do another M799 test, but this time using M122 as surface prep, to remove any previous competitors product, to see if this extra grippy feel & streak still exists.
I don’t own a gloss meter, I use my own eyes and feel factor to rate how good a product is… M27 got a 10 out of 10 from me… Fast Finish probably just shy of a 10, cos using a purple paste you squeeze out of a bottle, that smells nicer, just feels better than using an aerosol ! But geez this M799, really didn’t do it for me other than smelling fantastic. Again I’m hoping its that the prior application of the acrylic ceramic TW stuff is what caused the streaking ? Last time I had this much streaking on a Meguiars product was using Paint Protect 365 on a black car and that what back in 2014/2015? That just seemed to take all my effort to get off, and left it looking meh ! Still got a bottle of that stuff knocking around. But I can happily swallow wasting $10. This stuff was $60 for the gallon which is an amazing deal considering it was supposed to be $99, and with that new cool font on the bottle, is making it harder to swallow ! I had high expectations.

I dunno, maybe the temps / humidity levels had something to do with it. Using your D156 normally is breeze, but occasionally I get streaks that I seem to be say why the heck are they showing? Or maybe this M799 only really shines when used on paintwork that’s been treated with M788 ?
I’m not quite ready to throw the towel in yet with M799, but I definitely lost the first round !

davey g-force
May 11th, 2020, 03:52 PM
So this weekend, with my new M799, i tried full strength and also 3 parts M799 to 1 part distilled water and sad to say, i really struggled with this product. It was used in low humidity in a garage at temps of around 85 on a pearl black 2018 VW, which was washed using a waterless D114 at 1:128 dilution. This SUV has been garaged for the most part, apart from short hops to the grocery store. So it had only a light dusting of pollen. It was pretty clean. I chose D114 over D115 (my typical favorite waterless) because A.\ it wasn't dirty enough to warrant a getting the hose or foam cannon out for, and B.\ i was going to M799 it, so I didn't want the additional wax in D115 to interfere with the application. Not to mention that 2 weeks ago, I went over to the darkside and went all out buying and applying some Turtle Wax ‘Black’ Acrylic Ceramic polish and wax. (hey who can blame me, I have two black auto’s I clean on a weekly basis).. As part of that detail, I went the full hog, and i did a full M1801 decon, a clay (with last touch 50:50 as my lube) and did my polishing using the new TW black acrylic ceramic polish, along with an orange Lake Country pad using my megs MT300. I opted for the Lake Country pad over the amazing Meguiars MF system because i knew the TW black ceramic polish would stain up my Megs MF pads, which I wanted to avoid... I found this lake country/TW polish to be nowhere near as good as using the Megs MF Compound and MF correction pads. That combo really does an amazing job. I don't know why i bothered trying something else, other than to say to myself, at least i tried something meant for black cars ! Anyway, the car really didn't need a polish. Maybe it had some very light hairline scratches, but this car has never seen an automatic wash or anyone else wash it, and i'm very particular about my cleaning regiment so the paint is always in either A or A+ condition. Also worth mentioning is between polish and wax i did use your new M122 Surface Prep, to get the paint as ready as possible before the final TW ceramic black LSP. i did question this to myself, why am I doing the M122? Ok typically you’re supposed too, however as this new TW ceramic polish claims to include protection. why am i removing it before applying the spray ceramic wax?? i'm only going on so much about this because i'm wondering if this detail less than two weeks ago, is the reason i had so much trouble using M799.

Re M799, I thought i could perhaps use it as a replacement for Fast Finish at full strength, in that i spritz up a MF pad, get around the car, then use a Supreme shine MF to buff off any residue to a deep black gloss. I'll be honest, i have so many LSP's, carnauba waxes, sealants, paint protectant this paint protectant that. All normally do a good job, and leave the cars looking deep black.. Some streak a little, some are a pain to buff off, some are so easy it's a joy, that I question why do I keep wanting to try different products????...
What can I say, I like trying out different detailing products. Last week I was really excited about using M27 for the first time, on my other black pearl VW gti, again A+ condition. it was possibly one of the easiest products i've ever worked with. However M799, was as grippy and streaky as they come! I thought at first is perhaps because i allowed it to flash dry on the paintwork, before wiping it off. So then i thought ok, maybe i'll re-do half the hood using my 3:1 mixture.. Directly onto the paint and immediately wiping off. Given it’s also a drying aid. Despite it being a little easier, it was still no walk in the park! I think the last time i was felt so disappointed was when i went out and bought the Collinite 915 marque d'elegance, with its supposedly highest concentration of carnauba wax in any wax, but ended up a pig to remove and left my car a streaky mess! Instead of the most elegant it was ever supposed to look. I don’t think I’ve used it since.. I guess I should have / will do another M799 test, but this time using M122 as surface prep, to remove any previous competitors product, to see if this extra grippy feel & streak still exists.
I don’t own a gloss meter, I use my own eyes and feel factor to rate how good a product is… M27 got a 10 out of 10 from me… Fast Finish probably just shy of a 10, cos using a purple paste you squeeze out of a bottle, that smells nicer, just feels better than using an aerosol ! But geez this M799, really didn’t do it for me other than smelling fantastic. Again I’m hoping its that the prior application of the acrylic ceramic TW stuff is what caused the streaking ? Last time I had this much streaking on a Meguiars product was using Paint Protect 365 on a black car and that what back in 2014/2015? That just seemed to take all my effort to get off, and left it looking meh ! Still got a bottle of that stuff knocking around. But I can happily swallow wasting $10. This stuff was $60 for the gallon which is an amazing deal considering it was supposed to be $99, and with that new cool font on the bottle, is making it harder to swallow ! I had high expectations.

I dunno, maybe the temps / humidity levels had something to do with it. Using your D156 normally is breeze, but occasionally I get streaks that I seem to be say why the heck are they showing? Or maybe this M799 only really shines when used on paintwork that’s been treated with M788 ?
I’m not quite ready to throw the towel in yet with M799, but I definitely lost the first round !

That's not good!
Was the paint warm to touch? Do you think you could have been using too much product? :scratchhead1

thedoc46
May 12th, 2020, 06:37 AM
That's not good!
Was the paint warm to touch? Do you think you could have been using too much product? :scratchhead1

In all honesty, i'm really not sure what the deal was. But i am VERY HAPPY :overhere:heelclick1.gif:heelclick1.gif:heelclick1.gif:overhere TO REPORT !!!! that on my second attempt that i've just tried has been a much more positive experience. I've just gone ahead and spritzed up M799 3:1 my other VW that had a full M27 detail last week, despite really not needing the M799, as its not left the garage with all this COVID19, i went for it. Zero issues !! Also to further cement my joy, I went ahead and did the same VW SUV i had the issues on this weekend, (which took a very light sprinkling of rain on Sun after a run to the grocery store) Both auto's. ZERO !! streaking and none of that grippy feel i had.


So with all that in mind, Either one of three things caused my issues last weekend.

1.\ The TW black acrylic ceramic application and M799 really didn't like each other. However that doesn't explain why the M799 seemed to work much much better this time. Surely the TW is still present? Perhaps the M799 now overrides as the last coat, and allowed the fresh coat of M799 to do its thing ? I will say, using M799 over a fresh coating of M27 on that auto, i had zero issues.

2.\ I allowed M799 to dry on the panel like a typical wax, and that perhaps ?? was a big no no... But then that doesn't explain why when i spritzed up the hood last weekend, to get to the bottom of what was going on, i still struggled.

3.\ The Microfiber i used. Now a few days prior, i went out and bought a new Megs Clay retail kit and they give you a free brand new MF. I typically put all new MF's through the wash before use, as i buy a bunch at a time, however on one single one brand new one, i didn't bother. Perhaps being new, the texture was different enough to create that extra grip ?

I'm going to guess it was probably a combination of all three. The prior TW application, didn't allow the M799 to bond properly. Maybe it was just too soon. Then the allowing of the 1:1 product to dry, just created extra work for me and set me off on a negative thought pattern. Finally to top things off in my now distressed mode ! the new MF was too grabby cos it was new.

Nick Winn
May 12th, 2020, 08:11 AM
1.\ The TW black acrylic ceramic application and M799 really didn't like each other. However that doesn't explain why the M799 seemed to work much much better this time. Surely the TW is still present? Perhaps the M799 now overrides as the last coat, and allowed the fresh coat of M799 to do its thing ? I will say, using M799 over a fresh coating of M27 on that auto, i had zero issues.

2.\ I allowed M799 to dry on the panel like a typical wax, and that perhaps ?? was a big no no... But then that doesn't explain why when i spritzed up the hood last weekend, to get to the bottom of what was going on, i still struggled.

3.\ The Microfiber i used. Now a few days prior, i went out and bought a new Megs Clay retail kit and they give you a free brand new MF. I typically put all new MF's through the wash before use, as i buy a bunch at a time, however on one single one brand new one, i didn't bother. Perhaps being new, the texture was different enough to create that extra grip ?

I'm going to guess it was probably a combination of all three. The prior TW application, didn't allow the M799 to bond properly. Maybe it was just too soon. Then the allowing of the 1:1 product to dry, just created extra work for me and set me off on a negative thought pattern. Finally to top things off in my now distressed mode ! the new MF was too grabby cos it was new.

1. I would say in general, prior to applying a booster/maintenance spray sealant type product over your existing LSP, it is best to allow that LSP to fully cure. So yes this could have something to do with the experience.

2. Yes, definitely not a product you want to allow to dry on panel.

3. Yes, would definitely recommend washing & drying our microfiber towels prior to use. This will make a big difference especially with a spray sealant.

+4. To add regarding your comment on humidity, in general, humidity makes products more difficult to use, especially this category, spray sealant. We try to do everything we can to minimize impact on experience for humidity on the R&D/development end, with that said, depending on how high of humidity and or category of product being used, plus other variables like mentioned above, certainly can all combine to not have best experience.

Hope this helps & feel free to keep us in touch.

Nick Winn
May 12th, 2020, 08:36 AM
Not to mention that 2 weeks ago, I went over to the darkside and went all out buying and applying some Turtle Wax ‘Black’ Acrylic Ceramic polish and wax. (hey who can blame me, I have two black auto’s I clean on a weekly basis).. As part of that detail, I went the full hog, and i did a full M1801 decon, a clay (with last touch 50:50 as my lube) and did my polishing using the new TW black acrylic ceramic polish, along with an orange Lake Country pad using my megs MT300. I opted for the Lake Country pad over the amazing Meguiars MF system because i knew the TW black ceramic polish would stain up my Megs MF pads, which I wanted to avoid... I found this lake country/TW polish to be nowhere near as good as using the Megs MF Compound and MF correction pads. That combo really does an amazing job. I don't know why i bothered trying something else, other than to say to myself, at least i tried something meant for black cars ! Anyway, the car really didn't need a polish. Maybe it had some very light hairline scratches, but this car has never seen an automatic wash or anyone else wash it, and i'm very particular about my cleaning regiment so the paint is always in either A or A+ condition. Also worth mentioning is between polish and wax i did use your new M122 Surface Prep, to get the paint as ready as possible before the final TW ceramic black LSP. i did question this to myself, why am I doing the M122? Ok typically you’re supposed too, however as this new TW ceramic polish claims to include protection. why am i removing it before applying the spray ceramic wax?? i'm only going on so much about this because i'm wondering if this detail less than two weeks ago, is the reason i had so much trouble using M799.

Furthermore, we would imagine this "black color" specific product you mention is using fillers & oils to accomplish it's results. We are quite confident that you are likely re-activating these components which may never fully cure & this is contributing to your experience.

Additionally, you may or may have not noticed that the directions for this product are detailed & specific. Directions to spray directly onto the towel are advised for several applications. We would encourage you to reference these if you are not already & this should help, depending on what function you are using, i.e. Full Strength Sealant, Boosted Detailer, Clay Lubricant, Drying Aid.

thedoc46
May 14th, 2020, 06:25 AM
Thanks Nick, i should have known better to not mix and match using a competitors product. As i said, i had fantastic results using on top of M27, which will now become my go-to LSP. and will use this M799 on top of M27. So i should be good. What is your opinion though on using it on top of D115, which does contains wax. Because i never let my cars ever get too dirty, i prefer to just do a waterless wash, using D115 8:1 dilution, and a few microfibers. I just use it to lift the dirt, then to give it all a final buff once the paint is clean of contaminates, either using Fast Finish, ULW or a different product, In-between the monthly LSP's i was just using D156 synthetic x-spray. Everything was non-ceramic, so to speak. Today, everything is 'ceramic' Will it affect the bonding, if i used a non-ceramic traditional 'wax' waterless wash. i have an entire jug of D115 that i recently bought to get through. I do also have still most of my original D114 left. (same as D115 minus the wax for those that don't know) that i very very occasionally use at 1:128. Typically at times if I’m going to clay, or polish, I’ll get the D114 out… Should that now be my preferred waterless washing choice over D115 given there’s no wax in that product?, if i plan on doing my final detail using M799 outside of my monthly M27 LSP.

Nick Winn
May 14th, 2020, 07:51 AM
Thanks Nick, i should have known better to not mix and match using a competitors product. As i said, i had fantastic results using on top of M27, which will now become my go-to LSP. and will use this M799 on top of M27. So i should be good. What is your opinion though on using it on top of D115, which does contains wax. Because i never let my cars ever get too dirty, i prefer to just do a waterless wash, using D115 8:1 dilution, and a few microfibers. I just use it to lift the dirt, then to give it all a final buff once the paint is clean of contaminates, either using Fast Finish, ULW or a different product, In-between the monthly LSP's i was just using D156 synthetic x-spray. Everything was non-ceramic, so to speak. Today, everything is 'ceramic' Will it affect the bonding, if i used a non-ceramic traditional 'wax' waterless wash. i have an entire jug of D115 that i recently bought to get through. I do also have still most of my original D114 left. (same as D115 minus the wax for those that don't know) that i very very occasionally use at 1:128. Typically at times if I’m going to clay, or polish, I’ll get the D114 out… Should that now be my preferred waterless washing choice over D115 given there’s no wax in that product?, if i plan on doing my final detail using M799 outside of my monthly M27 LSP.

I really do not think the main culprit here is using over a non SiO2 based product, I feel that is more so has to do with the design of the product you were using it on top of like we discussed previously, regarding the abundance of fillers & oils potentially remaining on surface. So with that said, you should be fine to use over most anything else. But yes, ideally it is used as main source of protection on paint with no existing protection or to boost a SiO2 based sealant or coating.

davey g-force
May 19th, 2020, 02:04 PM
How does this product do on glass / windshields?

I'm pretty sure the official answer will be "it's not recommended / not designed to be used on glass" but has anyone actually tried it?

There are a few other Meguiar's products which, while officially not recommended for glass, do very well for this purpose - my favourite being M135 which is now sadly discontinued, so I'm looking for an alternative :)

HCAD
May 20th, 2020, 04:18 AM
How does this product do on glass / windshields?

I'm pretty sure the official answer will be "it's not recommended / not designed to be used on glass" but has anyone actually tried it?

There are a few other Meguiar's products which, while officially not recommended for glass, do very well for this purpose - my favourite being M135 which is now sadly discontinued, so I'm looking for an alternative :)

I don't put anything on windshields, but I do apply it to all other glass. When I first started using it, and applied the product too heavy, I noticed it was a little tough to remove from the glass. But after dialing back the quantity applied I don't see the same smearing.

symmetrical
May 20th, 2020, 08:11 AM
+1 to not putting anything on a windshield. I've learned the hard lesson that it messes with your wipers too much and causes them to chatter in particular conditions. I would use a dedicated glass sealant instead that has low friction.

davey g-force
May 21st, 2020, 02:31 PM
I don't put anything on windshields, but I do apply it to all other glass. When I first started using it, and applied the product too heavy, I noticed it was a little tough to remove from the glass. But after dialing back the quantity applied I don't see the same smearing.

Great, thanks for your help!

dwaleke
Jun 23rd, 2020, 07:02 AM
Is this correct:



Dilutable

Full Strength: Spray Sealant or Coating Topper
1:3 (1 part water to 3 parts M799) = Clay Lubricant or Drying Aide
1:3 (1 part water to 3 parts M799) = Boosted Quick Detailer / For Use in Sun



I've seen it listed as this at some retailers:

Dilutable


Full Strength: Spray Sealant or Coating Topper
1:3 (1 part water to 3 parts M799) = Clay Lubricant or Drying Aide
1:1 (1 part water to 1 parts M799) = Boosted Quick Detailer / For Use in Sun




If they were both 1:3 dilutions you'd think that would only be one line item and not two as listed.

symmetrical
Jun 23rd, 2020, 07:48 AM
The retailer could be incorrect, it's listed as both 1:3 dilutions on the bottle itself too.

HCAD
Jul 9th, 2020, 01:13 PM
How does this product do on glass / windshields?

I'm pretty sure the official answer will be "it's not recommended / not designed to be used on glass" but has anyone actually tried it?

There are a few other Meguiar's products which, while officially not recommended for glass, do very well for this purpose - my favourite being M135 which is now sadly discontinued, so I'm looking for an alternative :)


I don't put anything on windshields, but I do apply it to all other glass. When I first started using it, and applied the product too heavy, I noticed it was a little tough to remove from the glass. But after dialing back the quantity applied I don't see the same smearing.

Davey, I have to apologize. When I made this post answering your question about glass application, I had just moved from a couple of threads on M27. Somehow I thought your question was in regard to M27, which it obviously wasn't, since this is after all a M799 thread. My bad.

So, to answer your question again, I only just received my gallon of M799 and have not used it at all. LOL, sorry.

davey g-force
Jul 10th, 2020, 03:22 PM
Davey, I have to apologize. When I made this post answering your question about glass application, I had just moved from a couple of threads on M27. Somehow I thought your question was in regard to M27, which it obviously wasn't, since this is after all a M799 thread. My bad.

So, to answer your question again, I only just received my gallon of M799 and have not used it at all. LOL, sorry.

Ha ha that's ok... thanks for letting me know! :)

Nick Winn
Jul 13th, 2020, 12:01 PM
Is this correct:



I've seen it listed as this at some retailers:

Dilutable


Full Strength: Spray Sealant or Coating Topper
1:3 (1 part water to 3 parts M799) = Clay Lubricant or Drying Aide
1:1 (1 part water to 1 parts M799) = Boosted Quick Detailer / For Use in Sun




If they were both 1:3 dilutions you'd think that would only be one line item and not two as listed.


The retailer could be incorrect, it's listed as both 1:3 dilutions on the bottle itself too.

The official recommendation is as listed on label full strength & 1:3. If diluted at 1:1 you will start trading durability, gloss & slickness. Side note, also not officially recommended for a clay lubricant at 1:1 so overall, full strength & 1:3 is official recommendation.

510GUY
Jul 21st, 2020, 05:44 PM
For those who are wondering when M799 will be available in the 32oz. size. I picked up some in the 32oz. size from Detail Supply Plaza in Escondido, CA last Thursday. After the bottle I bought they had 5 bottles left. I haven't used it yet, but will soon as a drying agent when I wash my wrapped Miata and apply M27 afterwards.

Nick Winn
Jul 24th, 2020, 10:41 AM
Yes the 32 is in our Distribution Center now so should be able to start seeing it for sale at your favorite Meguiar's supplier.

ZL1TQ
Jul 27th, 2020, 07:25 PM
Nick

Does Bead Booster or Pro Hybrid Ceramic have good UV blockers in them?

Nick Winn
Jul 30th, 2020, 08:00 AM
Nick

Does Bead Booster or Pro Hybrid Ceramic have good UV blockers in them?

All of our waxes/sealants provide protection from the elements, including the sun's UV, including PRO Hybrid Ceramic Bead Booster as this is an Sio2 based spray sealant.

ZL1TQ
Jul 30th, 2020, 02:53 PM
All of our waxes/sealants provide protection from the elements, including the sun's UV, including PRO Hybrid Ceramic Bead Booster as this is an Sio2 based spray sealant.

Thank you for the reply. So they have uv blockers formulated in them? Or are you saying that because it has Sio2 that naturally it blocks uv rays?

Nick Winn
Jul 31st, 2020, 05:51 AM
Thank you for the reply. So they have uv blockers formulated in them? Or are you saying that because it has Sio2 that naturally it blocks uv rays? I am not really permitted to get more detailed than the response I gave you : )

ZL1TQ
Jul 31st, 2020, 07:45 PM
I am not really permitted to get more detailed than the response I gave you : )

I completely respect that. I think the company would do well in future product development to put some good money into actual paint quality type uv blockers. I love the products and the pro sealant and bead booster will probably be my primary source of protection with all my vehicles. But having black vehicles this is important to me. Turtle wax spray ceramic sealant has this built in. Hopefully your product development people are listening :)

I do love this product though. Did a full paint correction on my Lexus and camaro. I have my Tahoe fully wrapped in xpel and will seal that this fall. Month in on the car and it is holding up great. Did the pro sealant and bead booster. Gloss is excellent.

Nick Winn
Aug 3rd, 2020, 02:59 PM
I completely respect that. I think the company would do well in future product development to put some good money into actual paint quality type uv blockers. I love the products and the pro sealant and bead booster will probably be my primary source of protection with all my vehicles. But having black vehicles this is important to me. Turtle wax spray ceramic sealant has this built in. Hopefully your product development people are listening :)

I do love this product though. Did a full paint correction on my Lexus and camaro. I have my Tahoe fully wrapped in xpel and will seal that this fall. Month in on the car and it is holding up great. Did the pro sealant and bead booster. Gloss is excellent.

Just thinking out loud here, based on my response, it seems you are now assuming our waxes & sealants do not protect against UV, which is incorrect. Meguiar's waxes & sealants are engineered to protect against UV damage, as well as environmental hazards.

dwaleke
Apr 12th, 2021, 12:00 PM
Not much discussion on this product.

I have it and only used it full strength a few times before the weather turned in the fall. So far I think this product adds a nice darkening affect to a vehicle. Gloss looks good, slickness is ok - nothing spectacular - but none of the SIO2 based products have great slickness. Self cleaning seems good. One of the cars I applied this to sat a long time in the garage collecting dust. It seems after a quick drive most of this just blew off the car and not much was left attracted to the car. Could be coincidence or could be the fact that this product does not attract dust.

I also experienced the hazing effect. Applied full strength to a coated vehicle. The product kept hazing up after wipe off. I was surprised to see the haze coming back after 2-3 separate final wipes. In the end the result was great. Perhaps I should dilute it a bit instead of using it full strength.

I plan on using it much more this spring/summer. How is everyone using and liking the product?

symmetrical
Apr 12th, 2021, 02:22 PM
Not much discussion on this product.

I have it and only used it full strength a few times before the weather turned in the fall. So far I think this product adds a nice darkening affect to a vehicle. Gloss looks good, slickness is ok - nothing spectacular - but none of the SIO2 based products have great slickness. Self cleaning seems good. One of the cars I applied this to sat a long time in the garage collecting dust. It seems after a quick drive most of this just blew off the car and not much was left attracted to the car. Could be coincidence or could be the fact that this product does not attract dust.

I also experienced the hazing effect. Applied full strength to a coated vehicle. The product kept hazing up after wipe off. I was surprised to see the haze coming back after 2-3 separate final wipes. In the end the result was great. Perhaps I should dilute it a bit instead of using it full strength.

I plan on using it much more this spring/summer. How is everyone using and liking the product?


I agree, there doesn't seem to be a lot of talk about this product, on other forums or on youtube. I think the main killer for most folks is probably the price. (Though you can buy a Gallon for $65 on amazon right now) but even then, most people just don't need that much. Also it's a sting when you see D156 for half the price, or if you go to the competition and get something like Seal and Shine for $8 for 16oz.

With that said, it's one of my favorite products especially when used as a detailing spray (that wasn't even my original goal to use it as when I first bought it.) It's pretty much the same as hybrid ceramic detailer. I found that when using full strength, I followed Markus's recommendation to spray 3-4 times on the microfiber, and then just wipe on. I had issues spraying directly on the panel with streaking. But once cured, the beading is incredible. And for how easy it's to apply, it's so satisfying just seeing water slip on it when rinsing.

jcurr10
Apr 13th, 2021, 05:19 AM
I use the Pro Hybrid Ceramic Sealant and then do a stack with the Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax and Bead Booster. Pretty good results, held up for just about a year