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Tim Lingor
Mar 12th, 2004, 09:03 PM
Blinded by the shine (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7241)

Hey Everyone,

As many of you know, besides being a detailing fanatic, I am also a fishing maniac! As such, my tools of choice are a fly rod and an aluminum 12' boat. However, since my first love is detailing, having an oxidized aluminum boat sitting on top of a detailed truck, takes away from the overall impression and all of the hard work that went into the truck.

So, I decided to do something about it. After oodles of research, I was left scratching my head on which method would work best to provide the best finish. I decided to tackle the project with:

* Meguiar's All Metal Polish M-2805 (Professional Mirror Glaze Series)
* Meguiar's Wool Buffing Pad W-4000 on a Makita rotary buffer

followed by

* Gold Class All Metal Restorer G-9110
* Meguiar's W-7006 foam Cutting Pad on a Makita rotary buffer

Let me tell you right from the start, this is a messy job!! As you buff, the white polish turns black from the oxidized aluminum and makes everything very messy to say the least. You have been warned!!!!

First, the Meguiar's All Metal Polish is a paste that comes in a 5 oz. Container. Though the container seems small, it is surprising just how far a small amount of this polish will go. To me, the polish smells a little like coconuts, which is a pleasant change from the normal ammonia smelling products I used to use. I used some old towels (do not use good ones as they will be ruined from the black residue; ask me how I know!!! ) I applied a small amount to a 1'x 1' area on the boat, ran the rotary buffer at a much higher than normal speed (advice I received from an aluminum pontoon shop) at around 2000-2200 rpm! I buffed the area until the black residue disappeared. I had to spur the pad with pad spur quite often in order to remove the build up of polish.

The finish from this step was amazing!!! I could actually see my reflection like I was looking into chrome and not an aluminum fishing boat!! Now I was intrigued!! I wanted to see just how bright and shiny I could make the boat.

So, I decided to move on to the next step and use Meguiar's Gold Class All Metal Restorer (a liquid) on a Foam Cutting Pad W-7006. Again, I did a very small area at a time. The GC All Metal Restorer smells very similar to the All Metal Polish but not quite. Because this one is a liquid, I placed a fair amount on the pad, rubbed it around and proceeded to buff at a little lower but still high 1800 rpm. I found the GC All Metal Restorer was streaking a little and required more effort to remove. But once removed, the finish was incredible!! I could see my reflection as if I were looking into high polished chrome!!

Of course I had to now finish the rest of the boat. The painted sides were finished off with some Meguiar's #80 Speed Glaze and topped with Meguiar's #20 Polymer Sealant for long lasting protection. By this point I had several neighbors standing there wondering why I was detailing a 'fishing boat'. One commented that the boat was now a hazard for on-coming motorists as they will be blinded from the reflection of the sun in the boat!!

After the full detail, I used my pressure washer to remove any remaining black polish residue from around the rivets etc.

Here is a before and after shots. It is hard believe how good a job the Meguiar's metal polishes did on the aluminum boat. From this experience, I can hardly wait to try them on other pieces of metal!!!

Cheers!

Tim


Before:
http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/500/4989106_0631__small_.jpg

After:

http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/500/4989106_0636__small_.jpg

And...

http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/500/4989114_1403c__small_.jpg

Mike Phillips
Jul 18th, 2005, 04:07 PM
I'm not sure, but I think a grave injustice has been committed. This post was moved into a forum that is closed so while people can view it, they cannot reply to it.

I'm sure there have been plenty of people that would like to ask Tim questions or even make a comment about his results he achieved polishing the aluminum portions of his fishing boat and I know since he first finished this extreme makeover, he's now had a chance to revisit this project.

We apologize Tim, I think it was an honest mistake... This thread is now open for comments and questions!

Ranger72
Jul 18th, 2005, 04:14 PM
Wow man wow!!!! Looks beautiful! I bet you just picked up 2mph on the water with that slick bottom! Yes, your neighbors are right, you should by law have to cover the boat while in transport!!! LOL Looks great!

Superior Shine
Jul 18th, 2005, 05:46 PM
too nice to take fishing now!!!

Tim Lingor
Jul 18th, 2005, 05:52 PM
Hey everyone,

What can I say, I like a boat that shines! Maybe it will attract more fish? Or perhaps, my neighbors will think I am nuts for polishing an “aluminum fishing boat!” :)

Since that first buff-out of the boat, I have detailed it several more times. Each time is easier than the first, but no less messy. Once the major work is done, each buff-out becomes less strenuous than the previous one. Regardless, in my eyes, the results are worth it! I spend hours buffing and maintaining my truck’s paint. And since the boat sits on top of the truck year-round, I do not want the boat to take away from the hard work put into the truck’s paint. So off comes the boat, and out comes the rotary and wool pad.

Here is a picture from the most recent buff-out from a few days ago. This time however, I added one more step. I used Meguiar’s NXT Generation All Metal Polysh (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=G-130) with the PC as the final step. I was hoping that the NXT Metal Polysh may add just a little more gloss to the metal, and did it ever! I found that if you really work the product it in, give a few minutes to set-up, removal is a snap! The results were incredible!

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/6600_IMG_5101c.jpg


Do you think the boat will look like a giant fishing lure? I sure hope so! :D

Tim

Tom Weed
Jul 18th, 2005, 05:56 PM
WOW... You will either blind the fish and everyone else on the lake or the fish will think that's a big shiney lure! :confused:

that is the shiniest boat I've ever seen!

Tom

Tim Lingor
Jul 18th, 2005, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by Superior Shine
too nice to take fishing now!!!

Nah...what good is having the toy if you can not play with it? Besides, I can always buff it again! :D

Tim

rusty bumper
Jul 18th, 2005, 07:13 PM
I believe you're right Tim.......It does look a little better this time.

They don't look that good in the store! :bow

Ranger72
Jul 19th, 2005, 02:15 AM
Originally posted by 2hotford

Do you think the boat will look like a giant fishing lure? I sure hope so! :D

Tim
Better nto take it out into the ocean, you might get eaten by a blue whale!!! Hahahahaha

RDVT4ME
Jul 19th, 2005, 11:51 AM
Amazing!

I'm sure it looks better now than when it was brand new.

Epic18s
Jul 19th, 2005, 12:36 PM
Makes me want to go polish my boat!:coolgleam

RamAirV1
Jul 19th, 2005, 01:24 PM
The first time you polished it, it looked great! But the NXT Metal Polysh took the boat to an even higher level!

Is the Metal Polysh the LSP on the silver, chrome like bottom? Do you top it with anything else? How often do you detail it?


:xyxthumbs :xyxthumbs :xyxthumbs :xyxthumbs :xyxthumbs

RamAirV1

Tim Lingor
Jul 19th, 2005, 05:34 PM
Hey RamAirV1,

Since the NXT Metal Polysh offers cleaning with protection, I am using it as a LSP. Placing a non-metal type wax on the aluminum seems to tarnish it in a way. So I stick to the metal polishes.

Right now, I am only detailing the boat 2 times per year. That is all it seems to need. I am really curious as to how well the NXT Metal Polysh will hold up to the rigors of fishing!!

Cheers! :)

Tim

Larry A
Jul 20th, 2005, 04:40 AM
All I can say is "WOW"

RamAirV1
Jul 20th, 2005, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by 2hotford
Hey RamAirV1,

Since the NXT Metal Polysh offers cleaning with protection, I am using it as a LSP. Placing a non-metal type wax on the aluminum seems to tarnish it in a way. So I stick to the metal polishes.

Right now, I am only detailing the boat 2 times per year. That is all it seems to need. I am really curious as to how well the NXT Metal Polysh will hold up to the rigors of fishing!!

Cheers! :)

Tim

I was wondering about that. It makes sense since the aluminum is uncoated. It will be interesting to see how it holds up. I should get some for my chrome exhaust tips. I was hoping to get some locally but have not found it so far.

That's incredible that it can look that great with 2 details a year, considering the fact that it is attached to your daily driver.

RamAirV1

the3dwizard
Aug 12th, 2005, 01:58 AM
That is too cool! You can start a new career. Just go around to the boat shops and detail boats they have on the showroom floor. Bet they would sell more boats, but I am sure people would complain when their boats don't look as good. :D

Tim Lingor
Aug 12th, 2005, 04:50 AM
Hey,

Something I discovered on the last fishing trip. Usually when I get a fish close to the boat, the fish get spooked and take out line. But.... with the boat so shiny and the lake so clear, when the fish saw the boat this time, they went nuts!!!!! :D :D To make matters even more interesting, a fish tried to jump and hit the bottom of the boat!!! OUCH! :D Maybe Meguiar's should make little tags that can be placed on the fish that say..."I have been Meguiarized!!" :)

Hmmm...maybe I should not take the boat on the ocean...oh Moby.....:D :D :D

Tim

RamAirV1
Aug 12th, 2005, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by 2hotford
Hey,

Something I discovered on the last fishing trip. Usually when I get a fish close to the boat, the fish get spooked and take out line. But.... with the boat so shiny and the lake so clear, when the fish saw the boat this time, they went nuts!!!!! :D :D To make matters even more interesting, a fish tried to jump and hit the bottom of the boat!!! OUCH! :D Maybe Meguiar's should make little tags that can be placed on the fish that say..."I have been Meguiarized!!" :)

Hmmm...maybe I should not take the boat on the ocean...oh Moby.....:D :D :D

Tim

This should be a fishing tip on those outdoors shows they have on ESPN. I scan just see all the fishermen that have aluminum boats polishing their hulls with NXT Metal Polysh!

Do you QD your boat when you pull it out of the water? Maybe you should keep some Speed Detailer in the tackle box.

RamAirV1

Tim Lingor
Aug 12th, 2005, 06:32 AM
Originally posted by RamAirV1
This should be a fishing tip on those outdoors shows they have on ESPN. I scan just see all the fishermen that have aluminum boats polishing their hulls with NXT Metal Polysh!

Do you QD your boat when you pull it out of the water? Maybe you should keep some Speed Detailer in the tackle box.

RamAirV1

I am one step ahead on that one....LOL! :) Here are my supplies I take with camping! You never know when you might have to polish/clean/wax something!! :D

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/6IMG_5215_Small_.JPG

Tim

the3dwizard
Aug 12th, 2005, 07:07 AM
Originally posted by 2hotford
[B]I am one step ahead on that one....LOL! :) Here are my supplies I take with camping! You never know when you might have to polish/clean/wax something!! :D


Man that is sick, someone needs to seek medical attention. I hope it is not contagious :laughing

Blr123
Aug 12th, 2005, 07:08 AM
:D ahhhhhh you are a raskal Tim :D

Bryan

PS so what did you get for your B/Day.............I'll just keep asking eh :db:

Tim Lingor
Aug 12th, 2005, 07:48 AM
Hey Bryan,

What did I get for my birthday????...WAX!...and a couple of shirts! :D :D

Hey the3dwizard

Contagious? Yep! It sure is!!! :D

Tim

cwcad
Aug 11th, 2006, 05:21 AM
Thanks, 2Hotford for taking the time to post such a dramatic before and after post. It has given me something to strive for. I recently purchased a custom canopy made of aluminum. Have spent hours on it so far. Althouhg there is a change the results are so much less dramatic that yours.

I will purchase all the items and be prepared for the mess. Shine is where it is at and you have shown me possibilities.

Thanks again!!!

pcfxer
Aug 25th, 2006, 01:51 PM
There's one thing that even the best of Biologists still haven't been able to figure out. Why are animals so attracted to the Meguiar's shine? Even insects, rodents, arachnids, etc. are all supremely attracted to my vehicle after a good buff with Meguiar's.

I guess it's the eighth wonder of the world-Why are animals so attracted to the Meguiar's shine?

Tim Lingor
Aug 31st, 2006, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by pcfxer
There's one thing that even the best of Biologists still haven't been able to figure out. Why are animals so attracted to the Meguiar's shine? Even insects, rodents, arachnids, etc. are all supremely attracted to my vehicle after a good buff with Meguiar's.

I guess it's the eighth wonder of the world-Why are animals so attracted to the Meguiar's shine?

I have no idea. But I can tell you, I have caught a LOT of fish with that boat! Plus, while it is on my truck, I get to watch the sun reflect off if into my neighbors front window! :D :D

Tim

Tim Lingor
Aug 31st, 2006, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by cwcad
Thanks, 2Hotford for taking the time to post such a dramatic before and after post. It has given me something to strive for. I recently purchased a custom canopy made of aluminum. Have spent hours on it so far. Althouhg there is a change the results are so much less dramatic that yours.

I will purchase all the items and be prepared for the mess. Shine is where it is at and you have shown me possibilities.

Thanks again!!!

Hey cwcad

It has been a while! How are you doing???

I appreciate the kind the words. Thanks again! :)

Tim

Craig_mw
Sep 23rd, 2006, 05:39 PM
Hey first post for me...

Anyways, should you ever happen to come accross anouther aluminum boat such as this, I would try acidizing it before polishing it. That will get rid of almost all the oxidization making it much easier to polish.

Be warned, acid isn't easy to use, and you need some safety equpiment to do it. And if you mess up, and leave it on to long you can end up with some permenent streaks on the metal.

I would say take it to an 18 wheeler truck wash in your area. Something that size should be very quick to do, and pretty cheap. I would charge $15 or so for a job that size, which is much cheaper then buying the product it self since I have only ever seen it in 5 gallon drums, and you only need maybe a couple cups for that boat.

I've done this my self on canoes and they come out pretty shinny, though no where as close as what you did. But it would make the real job of polishing much quicker.

Nappers
Oct 23rd, 2006, 07:43 PM
That is really nice, was considering getting into the detail business as I am sick of being in Law Enforcement.

I had a question as how to detail aluminum and you answered my question. I was talking the Airstream trailers. Just think what one of those would look like all shined up.

Thanks
Aaron

Tim Lingor
Oct 24th, 2006, 03:02 PM
Hey Aaron,

Thanks for the comments. I have the utmost respect for people in law enforcement as that can be a very difficult job to do! :bigups

Polishing aluminum is both difficult and MESSY! But the rewards are awesome!

Tim

Nappers
Oct 25th, 2006, 06:40 PM
Hey Aaron,

Thanks for the comments. I have the utmost respect for people in law enforcement as that can be a very difficult job to do! :bigups

Tim

Thanks, it is hard, I am assigned the Jail (we have a patrol div. and a jail div in our dept) and have been for 12+ years and tired of it. If I can hang on for 12 more years I could retire with 24 years of service. I am assigned the court division (bailiff) for this year, gonna try to stay as long as I can, the jail setting can get old after a while.

That boat looks great, I want to polish my Dads boat up now, his is a aluminum Jet boat. He is a pig and it looks like ****.

Thanks again for the write up.

Aaron

LMBfishingCT
Dec 10th, 2006, 05:56 PM
I was inspired to do my boat after reading this. It is a 2004 Bass Tracker with alot of neglect. It is about as good or finished as its going to get for the rest of the winter.

The boat is in its final resting place until the spring and just weeks after finishing up, ive noticed the rain leaving stains. Is there anything i can use to prevent it from getting faded or stained?

Tim Lingor
Dec 11th, 2006, 06:08 PM
Hey,

Thanks for the comments.

I tested out Meg's Metal Guard which leaves a durable finish. It does require light coats sprayed on as thicker coats tend to orange peel on the surface. Otherwise, it seems to have lasted extremely well. :)

Tim

gorin002
Dec 11th, 2006, 11:00 PM
wowwwwww

if meg would make a toothpaste we all have wowwww teeth:D

BlueZero
May 10th, 2012, 02:41 PM
I was just thinking of Tim's boat the other day and had to dig up this thread. I am also giving it a bump to the top because this is just to good to be lost for over 5 years now.

Andy M.
May 10th, 2012, 04:47 PM
I was just thinking of Tim's boat the other day and had to dig up this thread. I am also giving it a bump to the top because this is just to good to be lost for over 5 years now.


It is awesome!