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adreed24
Oct 1st, 2005, 06:34 PM
Differences between Meguiar's Clay Bars? (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=69618)

I know that Meguiar's makes 2 clay bars. One comes with the "Meguiar's Quik Clay Detailing System" (G1116), the other comes from the professional line and is sold by itself.

I think the "Professional" one is supposed to be bigger, than the one that comes in the "Detailing System".

Is there a difference in performance, cleaning ability, or quality, between these 2 clay bars? If so, which is best?

Murr1525
Oct 1st, 2005, 08:59 PM
There is actially 3 different bars.

The Quick Clay is mild, and comes with the lubricant for $10. Easy to use, about impossible to screw up. Should last through 2 or 3 average cars at least. It will take off most contaminats that an average person will face.

The Mild Proffesional Clay is close to the Quick Clay, but without lube. It is 2 or 3 times bigger, for about $25.

The agressive Professional Clay is the same size and cost as the Mild CLay, but because it is agressive, it may leave micro-marring in the paint. These will be best removed with a PC, so if you do not have, or do not plan on using a machine, this is best avoided. It will remove contaminants and oxidation easier, but unless the paint is in very bad shape, then I dont know if you would need it.

Mike Phillips
Oct 3rd, 2005, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by adreed24
I know that Meguiar's makes 2 clay bars. One comes with the "Meguiar's Quik Clay Detailing System" (G1116), the other comes from the professional line and is sold by itself.

I think the "professional" one is supposed to be bigger, than the one that comes in the "Detailing System".

Is there a difference in performance, cleaning ability, or quality, between these 2 clay bars? If so, which is best?


http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2MegClay0011.jpg

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2MegClay0021.jpg


The differences are in size and aggressiveness, or mildness, whichever way you like to think of it

Quik Clay System - Fine clay
Professional Detailing Clay Mild - Mild clay
Professional Detailing Clay Aggressive - Aggressive


It all has to do with the type of abrasives used in the clay itself. Meguiar's doesn't recommend our Aggressive clay to consumers and enthusiasts as it has the potential to mar or clay haze the finish. For a professional this is okay because they're looking for speed in removing above surface bonded contaminants and in most cases they are going to machine clean the paint afterwards so any clay haze is the least of their worries as they will be going after much more serious below surface paint defects.

George Wax
Oct 3rd, 2005, 08:09 AM
I believe the clay bar has to be one of the best auto detailing product/tool to be developed what it does to a paint finish is simply incredible.

Mike Phillips
Oct 3rd, 2005, 08:13 AM
Clay bar technology enables anyone to safely remove above surface bonded contaminants without instilling any scratches or removing any paint.

They restore gloss by making the paint smooth like it was when it was brand new. They enable your wax to last longer because wax won't adhere to a dirty finish. The remove the things that cloud and block your eyes from seeing the true color of the paint.

Detailing Clay... it's not just for detailers anymore... :bigups

gb387
Oct 3rd, 2005, 11:42 AM
Thanks for the photo.... the pro line clay is MUCH larger, now I know why its cost so much more. I have never use the mild clay and I am now in need of some, is it just as user friendly as the Quik Clay? As in easy on the surface not going to add any extra work like the aggressive clay will?

JDMb18c
Jan 10th, 2008, 06:40 PM
Thanks for the photo.... the pro line clay is MUCH larger, now I know why its cost so much more. I have never use the mild clay and I am now in need of some, is it just as user friendly as the Quik Clay? As in easy on the surface not going to add any extra work like the aggressive clay will?

Bringing this thread back from the dead, but i would also like to know this. I noticed, Mike, that you posted the clays stating that the quick clay is a fine clay and that the other is mild.... To what degree of an effect will the mild have on a clear coat paint? and will it blemish the surface?

Murr1525
Jan 10th, 2008, 06:47 PM
The milder the clay, the less chance of any marring.

If you have stubborn contaminants, like sap or overspray, where you must work the clay a little harder, then there is always a chance of marring.

But if you are just working gently over the surface for normal contaminants, neither of the Smooth Surface clay kit or the Pro-Mild clay would cause marring.

J. A. Michaels
Jan 11th, 2008, 02:32 AM
Thanks for the photo.... the pro line clay is MUCH larger, now I know why its cost so much more. I have never use the mild clay and I am now in need of some, is it just as user friendly as the Quik Clay? As in easy on the surface not going to add any extra work like the aggressive clay will?

I have found the mild clay to be just as user friendly as the the fine clay. I switched over a 3 months ago. It works great for me. Good luck.

JDMb18c
Jan 11th, 2008, 10:54 AM
I have found the mild clay to be just as user friendly as the the fine clay. I switched over a 3 months ago. It works great for me. Good luck.

what do you use to lubricate? on the product catalog it says to use #34. can you still use a plain ol' bottle of QD with it?

Mike Pennington
Jan 11th, 2008, 11:04 AM
In additon....

Consumer "white" clay kit includes 2 each 50gram bars (100 grams of clay total per kit)

Professional "blue" and/or "red" clay package includes 1 each 200 gram bar (200 grams of clay total per package)

Mike

Mike Phillips
Jan 11th, 2008, 11:22 AM
To what degree of an effect will the mild have on a clear coat paint? and will it blemish the surface?

No.

This answer applies to any clay except the aggressive clay and that is as long as you're working clean, using a lubricant and using good technique claying will not harm the paint.

J. A. Michaels
Jan 11th, 2008, 03:50 PM
I have used the regular qd with it. I have also used Last Touch diluted at a 1 to 1 ratio.

cnfowler
Jan 11th, 2008, 10:47 PM
...They remove the things that cloud and block your eyes from seeing the true color of the paint.

Detailing Clay... it's not just for detailers anymore... :bigups

Here is a perfect example to drive that point home. This picture is the reflection of the door leading into my garage. It is off the hood of a 1999 Pontiac Grand Prix. The hood was washed and a portion of it was clayed for the picture. Nothing else has been done other than a wash and clay.
http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/medium/Dirty_clean_hood_Medium_.JPG

MoJam
Jan 12th, 2008, 04:55 AM
I believe the clay bar has to be one of the best auto detailing product/tool to be developed what it does to a paint finish is simply incredible.
:iagree: And one of the most looked-over or skipped also.

Mike Phillips
Feb 8th, 2008, 08:51 AM
***Bump***

Moving to "Hot Topics"

Andy M.
Feb 8th, 2008, 09:05 AM
Clay is what really got me hooked on Meguiars products. I know there is a thread out there on what got you hooked on detailing, but...... I went over to a friends house one day and he had just got done claying and waxing a 1999 Buick Regal GS. I couldn't believe how good it looked and how smooth and clean the finish was! When he told me he "clayed" his car I said, WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT! The rest is history, I searched online, came across MOL, and have been here ever since. Now he comes to me for car cleaning questions and advice. I think clay is one of the best things you could do to maintain a cars finish. I have used the consumer line white clay and the blue mild clay and have never had any kind of issue.
It is true that this is, in my opinion, one of the most overlooked and most beneficial things you can do for your vehicle.

Andy
101impala

HagFan
Feb 8th, 2008, 09:22 AM
This is a great step and you don't need to be a detailing pro to do it well. I'd get the Smooth Surface Clay Kit for your first use. Everything you need is right there, and I believe Barry Maguiar has a 3-part video at meguiars.com that shows you how to use it.

I've only been doing this for a year (about 6 times on 5 different cars) and I'm sold on gettting it done on each of my cars at least twice per year. I've bought some Last Touch and the Mild Clay, but have yet to try it. The plastic baggie test should make any detailing enthusiast a believer. Once you've washed the vehicle, take a sandwich bag and gently wipe a section of the top or hood. You'll feel some sandpaper-like grittiness on the surface. Do the clay on a 1'x1' test spot and repeat the baggie test. No sense waxing over all those contaminants when you can clay them out in about 1 hour.

Playr
Feb 12th, 2008, 08:50 AM
What is this "Last Touch" stuff? Google search turns up several different products. Currently I use the QD but I would like to move up to the bigger mild bar.

J. A. Michaels
Feb 12th, 2008, 01:51 PM
Last touch is a member of the professional line. It is a quik detailer. It can be used straight out of the bottle or diluted 1:1 for use a a lube for claying or I have heard qd your vehicle.

Playr
Feb 12th, 2008, 02:34 PM
Thanks for the reply. I'm used to the consumer line for the moment but I need to explore the different product lines to familiarize myself with what's available across the board.

Come2UCarwash
Jun 22nd, 2008, 10:44 AM
So, when would it be appropriate to use the pro mild in stead of the pro aggressive?

Murr1525
Jun 22nd, 2008, 11:34 AM
The pro-mild and the Smooth Surface clays are the ones that are used for most all situations.

The aggressive clay is only for the toughest contaminants, like paint, sap, etc that have been baked on for a long time.

Come2UCarwash
Jun 23rd, 2008, 12:35 PM
Does Meguair's produce their own clay, or do they just private label?

Mike Phillips
Jun 23rd, 2008, 12:44 PM
Does Meguiar's produce their own clay, or do they just private label?

We don't make our own clay, we, like everyone else, have our clay supplied to us to our specs by the only clay supplier in the United States who through a patent has a monopoly on the U.S. clay market.

Everyone that tries to obtain their clay from somewhere else and sell it here in the U.S. ends up in court with a lawsuit.

Does that help?

the other pc
Jun 23rd, 2008, 01:19 PM
So, when would it be appropriate to use the pro mild in stead of the pro aggressive?You can use the blue mild pro clay anytime.

You should only use the red aggressive clay if you have tough contaminants and you're planning on buffing the car afterward. The red clay can sometimes leave light marring.


PC.

Mike Phillips
Jun 23rd, 2008, 01:24 PM
You can use the blue mild pro clay anytime.

You should only use the red aggressive clay if you have tough contaminants and you're planning on buffing the car afterward. The red clay can sometimes leave light marring.


PC.

And this is the reason the aggressive clay is only available in the Professional Line, (a line of products targeted at people that are supposed to have knowledge and skills to use a rotary buffer), and not in the Consumer Line.

:)

Iam4st8
Jun 23rd, 2008, 04:09 PM
We don't make our own clay, we, like everyone else, have our clay supplied to us to our specs by the only clay supplier in the United States who through a patent has a monopoly on the U.S. clay market.

Everyone that tries to obtain their clay from somewhere else and sell it here in the U.S. ends up in court with a lawsuit.

Does that help?

Dern, that's really interesting. And like someone else said.. Clay NXT 2.0, and #26 is what turned me on to Meguires products.

Dmitriy15
Jun 24th, 2008, 11:11 AM
What about car wash soapy water, is that ok?

Mike Phillips
Jun 24th, 2008, 12:16 PM
What about car wash soapy water, is that ok?


Does anyone remember a thread where this has been brought up and discussed at length already?

There has to be at least a half dozen good threads on this subject. If anyone can find one, post the link here and we'll move it to Hot Topics for the future.

Thanks,

:xyxthumbs

Dmitriy15
Jun 24th, 2008, 02:10 PM
k, thx

Dmitriy15
Jun 24th, 2008, 02:24 PM
Found it... http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23304&highlight=clay+lube+soapy+water

I went ahead and made a mixture of my own, experimented on a trunk and found what amount of soap mixed with water is sufficient enough.

Thank you, when I can afford Quick Detailer, I will go back to that method.

Thx for help tho... i guess

Jokeman
Jun 25th, 2008, 09:29 AM
Does anyone remember a thread where this has been brought up and discussed at length already?

There has to be at least a half dozen good threads on this subject. If anyone can find one, post the link here and we'll move it to Hot Topics for the future.

Thanks,

:xyxthumbs

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=156737&postcount=9

Mike Phillips
Jun 25th, 2008, 11:59 AM
Found it...
http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23304&highlight=clay+lube+soapy+water





http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=156737&postcount=9


Thanks guys... I merged the two above threads because they both had good information on this topic and then moved them to Hot Topics.

Here's the clickable link...

Are there any inexpensive lubes to use while claying? (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17850)


:)

asim_296
Nov 2nd, 2008, 06:37 PM
I used both mild and agressive clay bars, thanks meguiars for including the clay bar in your lovely product list.