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cydewaze
Apr 29th, 2004, 12:48 PM
Hi everyone, I'm new here :wavey

I've been using Meguiars Deep Crystal polish and wax on my car for a number of years, until recently, when I bought a new car and had it professionally detailed. My detailer used NXT, and it looked amazing.

My question though has to do with some talk I've seen going on at other car forums. I've read where people use a carnuba-type wax over top of NXT to give an even deeper shine. Does anyone have any experience with this? It doesn't make much sense to me, but I don't know much about waxes.

I picked up a bottle of NXT and plan to try my own hand at detailing the car, and I was wondering if my left-over deep crystal wax would provide any benefit over top of the NXT.

Here are a few pics of the car after the first NXT application, though the pics don't really do it justice.

http://terminator.cydewaze.org/mar14062.jpg

http://terminator.cydewaze.org/mar14063.jpg

http://terminator.cydewaze.org/mar14064.jpg

Beercan31
Apr 29th, 2004, 05:37 PM
check out what gman39120 did on his ford, just what you wanted to know.

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=930

OOh sorry for being so rude.

:welcome
Welcome to Meguiar's

2000
Apr 29th, 2004, 05:58 PM
:welcome

this is the place...it's one bigparty:

Mike Phillips
Apr 29th, 2004, 06:07 PM
Hi cydewaze

Welcome to Meguiar's Online@ :welcome

The procedure of applying a Carnauba wax over the top of another product, usually a synthetic, but not always is called topping, or layering.

Far be it from me to stop somebody from experimenting with topping NXT or anyone's base coat of wax.

Meguiar's Deep Crystal Step 3 Carnauba Wax is actually a Blended wax. You can read more about it here in Meguiar's *NEW* FAQ (http://www.meguiars.com/faq/)

6. Are polymer sealants better than traditional carnauba waxes? (http://www.meguiars.com/faq/_index.cfm?faqCat=General%20Questions&faqQuestionID=6&section=_6#_6)

Here is what I suggest if you think you want to try applying a topper to NXT Tech Wax.

First, Start with two well applied coats of Tech wax on a flat panel, such as your hood, or deck lid.

Then, to one half of the panel, apply your choice of a topper, follow the directions and apply and remove accordingly. Then, inspect both sides under both artificial light and bright sun light at different angles.

Make sure you're improving upon the results you have already achieved by testing a section before applying the topper to the entire car. If you apply to the entire car without first testing and inspection... how will you know if it looks better?

Mike

scrub
Apr 29th, 2004, 06:19 PM
Welcome

just for giggles I topped NXT with #26 on my dark green GT. It seemed to darken the paint (kind of wet look). I received more compliments after this process than after 2 NXT coats!!

Whatever you decide you can't go wrong with the products..

Mike Phillips
Apr 29th, 2004, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by scrub
Welcome

just for giggles I topped NXT with #26 on my dark green GT. It seemed to darken the paint (kind of wet look). I received more compliments after this process than after 2 NXT coats!!

Whatever you decide you can't go wrong with the products..

and there you go...

:D

Mike

4.6GT
Apr 29th, 2004, 06:49 PM
I have a black GT and with the NXT it looks great but after reading scrub's post i'll have to try topping with #26.

Thanks for the info

scrub
Apr 29th, 2004, 06:57 PM
Good luck!! Seems this site is popular with stangers. BTW nice ride cydewaze

msmarcus
Apr 30th, 2004, 01:16 AM
Nice Cobra! Welcome to this site, lots of Mustanger's here. I haven't tried topping NXT with another wax, mainly because the shine and depth that NXT developed was amazing. I may have to try some Gold Class or #26 on it just to see.

2000
Apr 30th, 2004, 03:38 AM
Originally posted by Mike Phillips
Hi cydewaze



The procedure of applying a Carnauba wax over the top of another product, usually a synthetic, but not always is called topping, or layering.

Far be it from me to stop somebody from experimenting with topping NXT or anyone's base coat of wax.


Hi Mike,
to me, that sounds like you don't buy into it. do you? to me it seems if there is a layer of protection already there, the second coat can't do its job (look wise, not from a protection point of view). probably over thinking it, but curious just the same.

99BlackStangMan
Apr 30th, 2004, 05:29 AM
Nice cobra man.....thing is lookin good! Love the color. I have also been debating on whether or not to put a coat of 26 over the two coats of NXT.

cydewaze
Apr 30th, 2004, 04:17 PM
Wow! Thanks for the replies and welcomes everyone. I guess I just wanted to try the Deep Crystal on top of the NXT because I still have so much if it left. I promised my mother I'd wax her car sometime this summer (assuming I can ever remember to bring my detailing stuff when I go), so I might use the Deep Crystal on that. It's a 95 Civic, which has never been waxed in its life. Lotsa swirl marks from the guys at the car wash drying it for her. I bought some scratch X but I'm not sure if that's the right stuff to do the whole car with. I think I might also buy a Random Orbital Buffer.

Looks like I need to learn what all the numbers mean. What's #26? Next time I wax my Cobra, I think I'll re-claybar it. Never used claybar before, so this'll be a first (eek, maybe I should experiment on my mom's car first, next time I visit her).

BTW, thanks for the link to the FAQ. Good stuff.

scrub
Apr 30th, 2004, 06:18 PM
#26 is Hi-Tech Yellow Wax from the Pro line. I purchased the wax to use on my bling bling (chrome) rims. I saw a forum that said NXT does have some cleaning properties and I didn't want to chance it on the rims. Don't know why, just told not to.

Clay is very easy to use. I didn't think it would make a great difference on a car with light surface contamination but it does. It seems to shine even more. I've had good luck with Mammy's clay bar (Mothers) as Meguiar's was not available locally. I'm going to use Meguiar's tommorrow though.

Use this for help with clay.
http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=891&highlight=clay+bar

Good luck

cydewaze
Apr 30th, 2004, 10:41 PM
Thanks man!

Tim Lingor
May 1st, 2004, 06:07 AM
Hey,

I have been topping the polymers(#20) with a blended wax(#26) for a LONG time and love the results!

However, with Meguiar's NXT Tech Wax, I have tried topping it with both #26 and/or #16. I have to say, I like the look of the NXT all by itself. I will continue my #20/#26 combo when I use those products. But otherwise, when I use the NXT, I will use it by itself!

:xyxthumbs

Tim

cydewaze
May 1st, 2004, 11:27 AM
Ok, I just finished the car.

Washed it.

Clay barred the nose. Now this was interesting. Other than the nose (bugs, road grime) the claybar glided like wet ice over the rest of the car. After calling someone else with more claybar experience than myself, I came to the conclusion that the previous NXT application protected so well, that nothing was able to really stick to the paint. So the clay bar was confined to the front bumper, front section of the hood and roof, and the mirrors.

Next came the NXT. It goes on smoothly, and it comes off a LOT easier than Carnuba wax. Once I had the whole car done with NXT, I did half of the hood with Deep Crystal wax. After I was done, I have to say that the NXT alone did look a LOT better. I dunno, the DC seemed to leave tiny little criss-cross hair lines, whereas the NXT didn't.

What did make a difference was a 2nd coat of NXT. I applied the second coat to what I call the "high exposure" areas - hood, roof, trunk lid, mirrors, and front bumper.

Seriously, it goes on and comes off so easily, I don't see any reason (for my uses) to use anything else.

I've found my new wax :coolgleam

cydewaze
May 1st, 2004, 12:28 PM
As not to kill this page for dial-up users, I'll just provide a link to the pics.

http://terminator.cydewaze.org/details/

I didn't realize how dramatic the results were at first... because I had my polarized sunglasses on. :rolleyes: In case you don't know, those glasses remove almost all reflection and glare. Once I took them off, I was even more amazed at the results.

Very happy customer. :bigups

2000
May 1st, 2004, 12:44 PM
looks great!:xyxthumbs

sdiffen
May 6th, 2004, 11:42 AM
Well, after reading this post a week ago I decided to try it. But I was more intersted in did NXT attract more dust then #26.

I just got a brand new silver car and the first thing I did was clay detail it, apply #7 then #26 with the PC. This was a few weeks ago. Then a week later I applied a coat of NXT. The thing seemed to get dusty fast and I was convinced that NXT must attract dust more then the #26.

So, I waxed the car using NXT then on the hood and roof I applied #26 on one side.

I asked my wife to come out and see if she saw any differences in the finish. Her commnet was the side with the #26 looked better and had a wet look to it.

Me, I can't say it looked any beter or worse but it looked darker.

After about 4 days here in SCAL where it can be pretty dusty I saw no difference between the two sides. I couldn't see any difference on anf of the 4 days.

So, I have to conclude that this color and the way I see the hood from the drivers compartment must just be the rght angle to see the dust.


If I could get a good picture of the silver car I would post one but I can't seem to find the right way to get a good photo of a silver car.

Steve