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    Re: Special forum just for questions about so-called paint protection plans and produ

    In my area a alot of dealers use Simoniz System 5 and charge $500 to have it done. its a simple 20 minute wax job the dealer does. Alls it is is essentially (and most of these protectors) are ****** waxes that claim you need to let it sit for 24 hours with no water on it in order for it to work properly. I've used it before since I worked for Acura and got the bottles for free. It's kinda a gimmick if you ask me and just another form of warranty sales the dealer is offering. Just like rim and tire protection, extended warranties etc. etc.

    Just stick with Meguiar's stuff on a regular basis and you will be fine.

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    I hardly ever see dealers around here pushing the paint protection scam anymore. Maybe people are catching on to it?

    The bad news is that they are replacing it with other scams like engraving all the glass on the vehicle!

    Several years ago I actually got a dealer body shop manager to admit to me that those paint protection scams are just glorified car wax! He then said "you didn't hear that from me!" He was worried he would be in big trouble if someone found out that he said that.

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    Re: Special forum just for questions about so-called paint protection plans and produ

    Quote Originally Posted by Whelan View Post
    In my area a alot of dealers use Simoniz System 5 and charge $500 to have it done. its a simple 20 minute wax job the dealer does. Alls it is is essentially (and most of these protectors) are ****** waxes that claim you need to let it sit for 24 hours with no water on it in order for it to work properly. I've used it before since I worked for Acura and got the bottles for free. It's kinda a gimmick if you ask me and just another form of warranty sales the dealer is offering. Just like rim and tire protection, extended warranties etc. etc.

    Just stick with Meguiar's stuff on a regular basis and you will be fine.
    at mi Meguiar's dealer ship was a buisnes a ****** coat and he saw swirls
    he done second time.do not dollars in euros was 400
    and than he took bottle of Meguiar's was all gone

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    Re: Special forum just for questions about so-called paint protection plans and produ

    Yep, it is all a scam. The Jeep dealership wanted to charge my gf $1,200 for VIN etching on the windows, she was like umm no. So when she got the car, they actually had picked it up from another dealer. 2005 Liberty Renegade in Silver. So we took it home and realized it had the etching. After checking it turns out the dealer they got it from does it automatically to all cars on the lot, so we got it for free! lol.

    Funny too cause at Acura it was only $159 for the etching.

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    Re: Special forum just for questions about so-called paint protection plans and produ

    You can get a stencil & acid etching kit for a few bucks. It's probably right next to the super sealent (Nxt) on the self at Walmart.

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    Re: Special forum just for questions about so-called paint protection plans and produ

    Paint Sealants are nothing but an evolution of wax technology. In short, in my experience they are nothing but an improved wax. Most good sealants contain a bit of wax in them.

    The key difference between a wax and a paint sealant is the use of Amino-Functional Silicones used in sealants vs the standard silicone fluids used in waxes.

    These silicones have a cross-linking molecule when cured more or less bond to the finish of the car. That is not to say they stay there for a year or more as some claim. Of course, the small print says you have to renew within 4 to 6 months and give you a small vile of product to apply.

    But this become a gold mine for chemical companies and also smart marketers. Who have put together these protection package deals for car dealers with a fancy warranty sheet. Everyone makes money, the chemical company, the marketer, the dealer.

    The consumer is getting what they want, "insurance." That is, comfort that their car will shine and be protected, and it comes from a reputable auto dealer. (Wait is that an oxymoron?).

    Not all sealants are the same. Some have more shine than others. Some last longer than others. Some are more resistent to corrosion than others.

    Hard for one product to be tops in all catagories.

    So the chemist formulates what the marketing dept wants to sell.

    For example, in our comparative study of 25 popular waxes and sealants used by detailers in the USA and Canada the two products that were #1 and #2 in percentage increase of reflective gloss before and after application as measured by a Glossometer were #18 and #19 in resistence to salt water corrosion.

    If anyone would like to see the report email me with your email address buda@detailplus.com

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    Re: Special forum just for questions about so-called paint protection plans and produ

    Quote Originally Posted by STG View Post
    You can get a stencil & acid etching kit for a few bucks. It's probably right next to the super sealent (Nxt) on the self at Walmart.
    lol, nice!
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    Re: Special forum just for questions about so-called paint protection plans and produ

    I Just Purchased A 2007 Solara Without The Toyo Guard. I Have Just Put Some Water In A Bucket And Was About To Start The Car's First, At Least, My First Wash Job. Ok....what's Next....do I Start With A Carnuba Wax Or Poly Wax, One Of The Nxt Products....etc. What Is The Best First Protection, Kinda Like That First Love, What's The Story About Gold Class Vs The Poly Waxes. Now This Is A Red Solara, Rag Top So You See, I Want To Keep This Beauty Beautiful Forever. Thanks Kind Online Expert About Detailing.

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    Re: Special forum just for questions about so-called paint protection plans and produ

    It would probably be best to just start a new thread in the Detailing 101 forum, and we can give you all the new car links there. We can keep all your questions and answers in one spot easily then.
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    Re: Special forum just for questions about so-called paint protection plans and produ

    i would suggest a 21 with a top coat of nxt wax
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