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    Re: Dedicated thre just for questions about so-called paint protection plans and prod

    Our local Honda dealer has been trying to push their "Hydrophilic (water loving)" paint protection program to their customers since 2005. Interesting concept, but I love working on my car every weekend so I always refuse the offer.

    More details here: Honda's Hydrophilic Paint Protection

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    Re: Dedicated thre just for questions about so-called paint protection plans and prod

    im sorry but from what i have seen honda paint stinks if you dont take care of it... i dont think the hydrophillic plan will go over very well...



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    Quote Originally Posted by redhotchevy2000 View Post
    im sorry but from what i have seen honda paint stinks if you dont take care of it... i dont think the hydrophillic plan will go over very well...
    I agree!

    The paint on my Honda is so soft and fragile. I swear I can cause swirls to appear if I stare at my car long enough. Hehehehe.

    Anyway, nothing beats regular washing, polishing and waxing/sealing.

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    Re: Dedicated thre just for questions about so-called paint protection plans and prod

    Lets please make sure this thread stays going in the right direction.

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    Re: Dedicated thread just for questions about so-called paint protection plans/produc

    On my latest car, they really tried to sell the coating with a T. It was hard for me to refrain myself, from going mad on those people. I believe it was 600-700 dollars.

    First they told me they had really good wax on the car right now protecting it ,yeah right, it was what the car wash sprayed on it. ha-ha.

    Then they told me what they'd do is clay the car, and I probably don't know what that is. I told them I clay all the time. Then they told me I could clay for them then! ha-ha.

    Then they said they'd heat bond the special stuff to the paint, and they couldn't recommend it more. ha-ha.

    The sales lady had told me earlier that she has it on her car and anything just wipes off now. ok.

    They accepted me saying no, but it just pains me.

    If they want to sell something for that much money, why not sell a program where you pay and they'll wax your car every 2 months for a year or something? That would be better, in my opinion, than talking of a special super paint protection that lasts so long.

    The only thing is I bet these dealerships actually believe in this stuff. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think maybe some of them believe in it, with all their heart. They also seem to act like it lasts forever despite the need for the yearly touch up or whatever. It should be six times a year touchup.

    Hope that isn't out of line, but I think we all know here at these forums, that these protections don't last forever. Like everyone says, it's really a hard to maintain warranty you're buying.

    I don't remember where I read it, but like I read someone say somewhere, if this coating was so amazing, manufacturers would do it, at least some of them, to keep their cars standing out on the road.

    Just my opinion though, but boy I worry about my parents and stuff ever paying out that much money, 600-700 on such a product, for the fact they would think they're getting something really special.

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    Re: Dedicated thread just for questions about so-called paint protection plans/produc

    Quote Originally Posted by mb911 View Post

    I don't remember where I read it, but like I read someone say somewhere, if this coating was so amazing, manufacturers would do it, at least some of them, to keep their cars standing out on the road.
    The idea being if there really is a miracle coating that lasts a real long time and protects against everything and makes the paint look great... (That's 3 things), then why doesn't the paint manufacture include that with the coating either as a part of the paint system or as a component added after the paint is baked on but before the car leaves the assembly line?

    The answer is because such a wax or paint sealant or miracle product doesn't exist, at least not at this time.

    Even if there is a miracle coating you can apply or have applied, what do you do when something happens to the coating and how do you take care of the coating?

    At this time, it's better to simply take ownership of the car washing and waxing steps and find a product you like and trust and use it as often as needed to keep your car's appearance and value at a level that meets your expectations.

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    Re: Dedicated thread just for questions about so-called paint protection plans/produc

    Exactly true Mike. I'm glad my passion for car care has led me to know not to believe in such claims.

    Now, if they had tried to push me to get a clear 3m film on the front bumper. That is actually something helpful. ha-ha. Strangely, many dealers seem to put down the protectors. Much be more work/less profit.

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    Re: Special forum just for questions about so-called paint protection plans and produ

    Thats just plain sick, You are implying that everyone smokes on here...Yuck

    Just use a simple plastic sandwich bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buda View Post
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    You do not need to clay your vehicle unless there is Industrial Fallout (IFO) on the surface.

    You can determine this by simply taking the cellophane wrapper off a package of cigarettes and putting it over the first three fingers on your hand. Rub the various horizontal surfaces of the vehicle and if it feels like "sandpaper" then you should use the clay to remove.

    You cannot remove this with wax or even with a buffer and compound, it seems to just "stay there" through the process. Claying is the only way to remove.

    When finished claying you can try the cellophane trick again and see if you removed it all.

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    Re: Special forum just for questions about so-called paint protection plans and proud

    My parents are the same on both of their vehicles..I gave up asking them anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy M. View Post
    I know about all of the confusion here personally. My Mom has a 2003 Malibu that she refuses to let me touch due to this so-called paint protection that the dealership sells as a paint protection plan. I keep telling her that I can make it look like new again, but she won't budge. I have brought this up before. She will even tell me I have a scratch here or there, and I tell her I can take care of it. She says that will void my paint warranty. PAINT WARRANTY I SAY! UGH!!!!!

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    Re: Dedicated thread just for questions about so-called paint protection plans/produc

    Over at Detailing World there's been a lot of talk about some of the new nano-technology sealants--specifically Nanolex and G|techniq. These appear to be the real deal. They apparently need to be applied in a controlled environment by trained professionals, and the cost is expensive. I do not know if these products have made it to the States yet or not.
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