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    Better Filling Ability - NXT vs. #21

    I have read alot on NXT vs #21 and both are advertised and hiding or filling swirls, but does one fill swirls better? Does one also hold the look of filling ability longer then the other?
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    How about removing the swirls instead of just hiding them?
    If they are serious swirls, no wax is going to hide them. The ability of wax to hide swirls is fairly minimal, so you are better off removing them first, and then waxing and doing your best to prevent them from coming back.

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    You are not going to remove swirls !00%. There will always be some left to fill. Fillers also tend to give a deeper gloss especially on dark colors.

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    Originally posted by Larry A
    You are not going to remove swirls !00%. There will always be some left to fill.
    That statement is wrong. Perhaps you should take a look at some of the before and after pictures that detailers like Mike Phillips, Joe of Superior Shine, and many other outstanding detailers on this board post. It is very possible to remove visible swirls 100%.

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    With the right products and technique, you can remove 100% of the swirls in most paints. The only exception would be some paint types are such poor quality paint material to start with, or in such poor condition that no product will be effective at any kind of polishing work.


    As far as which product fill best, let's remember that all wax or paint protection type products if they work at all, that means the fill in swirls to some degree because of a wax, or a paint protectant is really working that means it's leaving itself behind after wipe-off and if you're applying something to the surface and it's leaving itself behind then it's coating over and in essence filling.

    That said, I'm not sure if any evaluations have ever been done to compare M21 to NXT to see if one eliminates swirls better than the other. Could be their similar, or so similar that you could not distinguish any difference.

    As already mentioned, if a person is looking for a swirl free finish, then primary attention should be placed on the cleaning step where below surface defects, (the root location of swirls), are to be removed as it is the cleaning step that will remove swirls and other below surface defects.


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    To me, they seem to be similar in swirl filling abilities. And both are very good BTW.

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    Sure you can.....

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    Originally posted by SpoiledMan
    Sure you can.....

    One thing for sure, the Xeon light shows no mercy!
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    Originally posted by Mike Phillips
    One thing for sure, the Xeon light shows no mercy!
    None whatsoever! That was about 15 years of swirls that were removed.
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    Originally posted by RedSoxRacer
    That statement is wrong. Perhaps you should take a look at some of the before and after pictures that detailers like Mike Phillips, Joe of Superior Shine, and many other outstanding detailers on this board post. It is very possible to remove visible swirls 100%.
    I standed corrected!

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