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    Question Newbie ASKING FOR HELP to start DETAILING and to choose the right PRODUCT

    THIS IS MY FIRST POST.... I AM NEW ON THIS AND ALL I WANT IS JUST GET AN ADVISE FROM EVERYBODY....SORRY IF I ASK TOO MUCH
    I have been reading a lot of the postings here and the more I read the more I am confused on what product I need to do the
    job. Reading some products information shows me almost the same so I dont know how to start. I know every product has
    differents performance but need to know which to use before start.
    I like this forum and cant believe how all this information is available and shared.
    I like to wash my cars every weekend......its my hobby but I want to enjoy more about this incredible detailing world.
    I will get my PC next week and want to detail my cars and some family cars.
    Getting my PC, which you recommend me to start? normal PAds or doble pads ( edge 2000 ) ?

    I live in California, in the desert ; high temperatures and lows also, lot of dust, windy DAYS and mostly of the time cars are outside.

    Now, all I want to know is what kind of product ( number, name or specific product so I can just go and buy it ) or steps use to my followings :

    1. Ford F150 FX4 Black color model 2006 ; washed weekends and waxed twice only......have swirls due to the fact I have not used proper products I guees and because everyday I use the Duster cleaner to remove dust from my car......
    2. Dodge Durango 2005 Gray color; washed weekends and never waxed ......
    3. Altima 2003 Black color; washed weekends. Never waxed or polished....Need good work on it.
    4. Dodge Neon 2003 Red color ; oops!. rarely washed and i dont think waxed or polished since NEW ... Need work also..
    5. Ford Grand Marquis 1999 White color; washed weekends and i dont think waxed or polished since NEW ... Need work also..

    I know i will enjoy this once finished and I want to start ASAP ...... of course getting the right products.......I just want to avoid confusions getting righjt product among 1000......
    Since I am starting with this, I want start inmediatelly and leave these cars as NEW ; My car is the F150 which is the one I use to clean frequently. All others are from my wife, parents, etc..I want to leave them like a Rock.....very shine and of course with a protection because the climate and dust around here.....AND FINALLY ... TO ENJOY THIS
    I hope everybody can help me out so I can start to buy all products I will need this week......
    Last edited by LOBO; Mar 5th, 2007 at 09:57 AM.
    Thanx .....

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    Re: Newbie demanding HELP to start DETAILING and to choose the right PRODUCT

    Well if you want help, may I suggest you edit your title to ask and not demand.
    You may find people here will be a little more obliging.

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    Re: Newbie demanding HELP to start DETAILING and to choose the right PRODUCT

    Califorina people, sheesh....

    As for the right products, I recommed you pick up the following....

    Meguiars #21
    Meguiars #26
    Meguiars #81
    Meguiars #7
    Meguiars #85
    Meguiars #84
    Meguiars #83
    Meguiars #80
    Meguiars #09 or #82
    Meguiars G100 D/A or Portercable 7336
    Hitachi SPV or Makita 9227 polish with backing plate
    Meguiars 9006 pad x 3
    Meguiars 8006 pad x 6
    Meguiars 7006 pad x 3
    Meguiars mircofibers x30 or so....
    Meguiars NXT Windowcleaner
    Meguiars GoldGlass Metal Polish or Meguiars NXT All Metal Polysh
    Meguiars Hyperwash with approiate dispenser
    2 5 gallon buckets
    2 Gritguards
    several highquality wash mitts
    Meguiars #38
    Meguiars #39
    Meguiars Detailer Exterior Trim Detailer
    Meguiars Detailer Wheel Brighter and apporiate spray bottle
    Meguiars Detailer Hyperdressing and 3 apportiate spray bottles for different solutions
    Meguiars Detailer APC and 3 approperiate spray bottles fro different solutions
    Meguiars All Wheel Cleaner
    Meguiars ScratchX
    Meguiars Plastix
    Meguiars Quik Out
    Meguiasrs Detailer Last Touch Detailer and approperiate bottle
    Meguiars NXT Speed Detailer
    Meguiars Quik Detailer
    Meguiars Quik Wheel Detailer
    Meguiars NXT Extreme shine tire spray
    Meguiars Gold Glass Endurance gel
    Meguiars Detailer All Season Dressing and 3 spray bottles for for different solutions
    an assortment of brushes for cleaning tires/wheelwells/carpets
    Meguiars Gold Glass foam applicator pads x30 +-5

    that should be enough to get you started and cover the basics for the cars...

    I also recommend you try to pick up some Meguiars #16 is you can, its discountined however....

    I can give you good products from other companies if you wish....

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    Re: Newbie demanding HELP to start DETAILING and to choose the right PRODUCT

    ps, there is no right product, there is only opinions and options, sorry but its not like mathmatics. I'm sure Murr will post his list of links for you (he's a good guy) if you ASK nicely

    Your best bet to is to educate yourself so you fully realize the options offered to you.

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    Re: Newbie demanding HELP to start DETAILING and to choose the right PRODUCT

    I don't have much time right now. so i'll post as much as i can as quickly as i can.

    first, remember, its all personal perference in terms of product choice.

    in terms of PC.

    here is a cheat sheet for PAD USE.

    Purple Pad #7006 - This is only used to remove wax with a bonnet as I described.
    Yellow Pad #W8006 - For paint cleaners and cleaner/polishes #80 #83 #9
    Tan Pad #W9006 - For Polishes, and waxes. #3 #7 GC Wax NXT Wax


    Which pads and how many to buy.

    3 -8006
    2 -9006
    1 -7006

    Great starting mix.

    Products you'll use with PC.

    M80 is a great base to any job. it won't marr the finish either.
    M83 if M80 can't remove swirls.
    M21 is a really nice LSP (last step product). this is usually applied by hand though. some guys apply with machine but have troubles with streaks due to humid temperatures.

    Wax - NXT is a really nice wax. leaves a wet look and lasts a while as well.
    Soap - NXT Car wash is my choice.

    Supreme Shine Microfibres for removing polish/wax.

    can't gotta go. back to teaching. sorry.

    if Murr is around please finish. if not i'll finish this all later.

    IN THE MEANTIME READ THE FOLLOWING.

    The 5-Step Paint Care Cycle.

    Meguiar's 5-Step Paint Care Cycle

    Step 1 Wash

    Step 2 Clean

    Step 3 Polish

    Step 4 Protect

    Step 5 Maintain

    NXT Cure Time
    NXT Tech Wax Cure Time

    Suggested Products for Taking Care of a New Car

    Suggested Products for Taking Care of a New Car

    PC + 83 not "Cutting" it! - The Limits of the Dual Action Polisher

    PC + #83 not "Cutting" it! - The Limits of the Dual Action Polisher

    Recommended Products - G100a Dual Action Polisher

    Recommended Products - G100a Dual Action Polisher

    Rotary vs. PC vs. Regular Orbital Buffer

    Rotary vs. PC vs. Regular Orbital Buffer

    How to Remove Swirls by Hand
    How To Remove Swirls By Hand

    How to Wash Your Car Using the Two Bucket Method
    How To Wash Your Car using the Two Bucket
    Method


    How to Clay Paint
    How To Clay Paint
    Using the G-100 to remove swirls with the Professional Line
    Using the G-100 to remove swirls with the Professional Line

    How to remove a defect by hand with ScratchX
    How to remove a defect by hand with ScratchX

    The Swipe Test
    How to tell when a Meguiar's wax is ready to remove - The Swipe Test


    cheers. gotta run. reading time.

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    Re: Newbie demanding HELP to start DETAILING and to choose the right PRODUCT

    Quote Originally Posted by LOBO View Post

    I live in California, in the desert ; high temperatures and lows also, lot of dust, windy DAYS and mostly of the time cars are outside.

    Where in the SoCal desert do you live?

    p.s.

    No need to "demand" on this forum, we'll help you willingly...
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    Re: Newbie ASKING FOR HELP to start DETAILING and to choose the right PRODUCT

    Sorry if I wrote the wrong word. I am form Mexico and my english sometimes is not properly. I never wanted to force provide me info, just wanted some help. Sorry to everybody. I edited the tittle.
    I am located in Calexico, CA 92231 ( NOT LIVING THERE BUT IN MEXICALI ) border with Mexicali, Bc Mexico ( in la BAJA ) .... High temperature is about 125 oF and low about 33oF .... WINDY CITY AND LOT OF POLLUTION IF THAT MENAS DUST.
    Thank you everybody for replies and sorry again. Need to imporove my english to avoid future misunderstandings.

    Sorry guys
    Thanx .....

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    Re: Newbie ASKING FOR HELP to start DETAILING and to choose the right PRODUCT

    If you want to start a detailing business, we can show you the minimum products and tools you'll need to get started and then you can add more as you grow or we can give you a list of everthing it's nice to have, it kind of depends upon your budget and how much you want to spend to get started.

    [LIST][*]Are you going to have a fixed location as in a detail shop?
    [*]Are you going to be a Mobil Detailer driving to your customer's house?/LIST]

    Either way we can help you.
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    Re: Newbie ASKING FOR HELP to start DETAILING and to choose the right PRODUCT

    Thanx mike, got it and understood...
    I dont want to start new business just detail cars I have now. when?. Dont know when , probably every saturday...I like to wash cars and more detail but I never have detailed anyone until now that i found this place. Lot of products is so confused to me ( SORRY ); I have read a lot here and know about cycle ( wash, clean, polish, wax and maintein ) but dont know how to start. I want to ge tone product for every step according to every card because lot of products just confuse me. I will get my Porter Cable or the Meguiars; are both the same?...Also, which pads are good or better ?....EDGE 2000 OR normal pads?...

    Sorry, I know I asked too much....
    Thanx .....

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    Re: Newbie ASKING FOR HELP to start DETAILING and to choose the right PRODUCT

    sitck with MEGUIARS pads.

    great results from me on these.

    Get a G-100 and a MEGUIARS backing plate and some pads and you'll be off to the races.

    if you buy the Porter Cable one, then its not ready to use out of the box. but if you score a MEGUIARS one (check autodetailingsolutions) then you're ready to use right from the box. the main differences you ask? the MEGUIARS one comes with the MEGS backing plate and LIFETIME WARRANTY. a bonus for the extra buck and so worth it.

    here is a cheat sheet for PAD USE.

    Purple Pad #7006 - This is only used to remove wax with a bonnet as I described.
    Yellow Pad #W8006 - For paint cleaners and cleaner/polishes #80 #83 #9
    Tan Pad #W9006 - For Polishes, and waxes. #3 #7 GC Wax NXT Wax


    Which pads and how many to buy.

    3 -8006
    2 -9006
    1 -7006

    Great starting mix.

    wrote this above. check it out.

    If you're going to be using machine.

    then i recommend the following.

    Wash - NXT Soap
    Clay - Quik Clay Kit
    Paint Clean - M80, M83
    Paint Polish - if you're using M80 that has enough oils so you're good. but if you wanna add to the shine, #6, #7 are nice.
    Wax - NXT is awesome
    Polymer Sealant - M21

    MUST HAVES:

    Microfibre Towels. these are so important when removing polishes/cleaners and waxes if you don't have the bonnet for the W-7006 Pad

    people use M80 to help clear their car of swirls. if its heavily swirled you will probably have to use M83, followed by M80 if the M83 left any streaks. that sound confusing.

    usually you use the LEAST AGRESSIVE PRODUCT FIRST which would be M80. but if M80 doesn't work to get the swirls out of your finish, you need to use M83 and then follow that with M80 to get rid of any streaks or hazing marks it might have left behind. not always the case though.

    but another great product that works well for light swirls is the DEEP CRYSTAL SYSTEM.

    Wash
    Clay
    Deep Crystal #1
    Deep Crystal #2
    Wax of your Choice x 2

    but sometimes if you just wanna do a quick job.

    Wash
    Clay
    Colour-X (its a cleaner/wax all in one)
    wax of your choice x 2
    Last edited by TrufflePig; Mar 5th, 2007 at 01:04 PM.

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