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    Re: The Clearcoat Failure Photo Archive

    Quote Originally Posted by Shizane2002 View Post
    Brilliant thread. I havent had any clear coat problems yet. Im on 13 year old original Indy Red paint from Chrysler. Im giving Meguiars all the respect its due for keeping my paint alive and thriving.
    Absolutely.

    I have a '92 Dodge, and the paint still shines like new money with no peeling at all.

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    Re: The Clearcoat Failure Photo Archive

    my cars clear coat has started failing pretty quickly over the past 3 years or so, i try to keep on top of it and keep it cleaned, but its but failing all over the top of my car, dang texas sun! i need to get it re-sprayed

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    Re: The Clearcoat Failure Photo Archive

    Quote Originally Posted by gainesvilledetailing View Post
    those cracks at the bottom of the first page I have seen on multiple Nissan Xterra's and the dealership told me it was from bird droppings, I thought it was a paint failure, good thing that I found this forum
    it is failure.. it is a paint defect. it is NOT bird ****.. bird **** is something different. I have those checkmarks all over my hood on my 07 Honda and apparently I am not the only one.. check this out if you don't believe me..

    http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/mecha...hood-pics.html

    I even called honda and brought it to the dealership and have their body guy look at it.. he said it is checkering aka crows feet. it is NOt due to bird droppings...with bird droppings you will be able to see some oxidation and discolouration around the area of the affected paint as well.. like stains..

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    Re: The Clearcoat Failure Photo Archive

    This is really a fantastic forum.
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    Re: The Clearcoat Failure Photo Archive

    Quote Originally Posted by Spidey View Post
    it is failure.. it is a paint defect. it is NOT bird ****.. bird **** is something different. I have those checkmarks all over my hood on my 07 Honda and apparently I am not the only one.. check this out if you don't believe me..

    http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/mecha...hood-pics.html

    I even called honda and brought it to the dealership and have their body guy look at it.. he said it is checkering aka crows feet. it is NOt due to bird droppings...with bird droppings you will be able to see some oxidation and discolouration around the area of the affected paint as well.. like stains..
    So is this issue isolated to the Honda hoods due to heat or is the issue throughout the car? I didn't see the answer in that thread.

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    Re: The Clearcoat Failure Photo Archive

    Here's a clearcoat failure nightmare I can almost bet nobody has seen before. This is a 2 month old paint job that I was "hired" to wet sand and buff for a friend. What you see in my hand in the picture is the actual clearcoat that was on the door, which peeled off like a bad sunburn. The paint wet sanded and buffed like normal, but when I peeled off a piece of blue painter's tape that I had protecting an area on the door, it peeled the clear off with it and it just kept going. The whole entire truck did this, not just the door, I was just flabbergasted, I've never seen anything like that before. It was determined that the cause was a paint additive the owner added to the paint that he shouldn't have. Definitely not your normal clearcoat failure, but I thought you all might find it interesting .


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    Re: The Clearcoat Failure Photo Archive

    Quote Originally Posted by PorscheGuy997 View Post
    Had some fun with my new macro lense.



    You can see the tiny cracks in the clear. This is basically a different form of clearcoat failure.

    ...pollen is sticking to everything, too...
    Add me to the group that never knew about high engine temps adding to hood clear coat failure. Very interesting.

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    Re: The Clearcoat Failure Photo Archive

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Davidson View Post
    So is this issue isolated to the Honda hoods due to heat or is the issue throughout the car? I didn't see the answer in that thread.
    it is isolated(from what i know) to the hood and fenders.. basically the metal parts that are most exposed to the sun? i am not sure if it is due to the engine or not, if it were, the fenders shouldnt be affected... it could be the painting process for theose 2 parts during assembly that cause those areas... there are areas such as the roof and trunk that people have complained abotu the clear coat cracking and flaking off.. esp for the fiji blue colour on the civic.. http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/detai...nt-fading.html

    my roof and trunk lid shows signs of clear coat cracking while my hood shows crows feet..... in the midst of getting honda to see if they will cover it under goodwill warranty

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    Re: The Clearcoat Failure Photo Archive

    early to mid 90's GM vehicles, especially white pick ups are notorious for paint failure, Hondas also. Both I know from experience. Honda i'm not sure why but I know GM used some really bad paint in the 90's.

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    Re: The Clearcoat Failure Photo Archive

    Quote Originally Posted by AWD_Junkie View Post
    early to mid 90's GM vehicles, especially white pick ups are notorious for paint failure, Hondas also. Both I know from experience. Honda i'm not sure why but I know GM used some really bad paint in the 90's.
    Early to mid '90s GM and Ford vehicles had issues with not just clear coat failure but a lack of bond between the color coat and primer. The color coat would literally flake off the primer (and obviously take the clear along with it!) but that is a completely different dynamic than the sort of clear coat failure shown in the pictures of this thread. While clear coat failure can be caused by problems arising in the manufacturing process, it can also be caused by heavy UV exposure, damaging the clear in some way (buffing almost completely through, scratching through it, etc) or just flat out neglect. But the flaking color coat exhibited by those '90s GM and Ford vehicles was all down to manufacturing issues.

    On the GM cars if it happened early enough you could make a warranty claim and get the car repainted. If it didn't show up until much later, you were pretty much out of luck - which is exactly what happened on my wife's '92 Camaro RS. Our next door neighbor had a white '94 Ford Explorer with the exact same issue. We both had the cars repainted at the same body shop and the owner said he sees this all the time with those cars.
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